[TheThinkTank] THE LIST

Paul Fitzgerald paul at workingbikes.org
Thu May 21 10:11:28 PDT 2015


What non profit charges high prices to "raise the perceived value of
bikes"?  Our prices at Working Bikes are set to not have our work resold by
for-profit individuals at the swap meet or craig's list.   I may have a
bias but I think that a 'community bike shop' and a 'cooperative bike shop'
are different things.  One of these titles explains a structure and the
other suggests an open door or policy of community engagement.

It's your list and these are just my thoughts, but I was a little surprised
to see for profit shops in chicago (uptown) on the list and non-profits (WB
and Blackstone) not.

-Paul

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Eric Honour <eric.honour at gmail.com> wrote:

> Might be worth including them under a separate heading.
> On May 21, 2015 1:01 PM, "Joshua Hoffman" <joshuahof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is a searchable document
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S0FOc6ZJA-wYWo4qZ4yx75SBFq53aD8ELY1JGBt6UQY/edit?usp=sharing>
>> if you want to check for your shop.
>>
>> NOTE: So far THE LIST <https://www.facebook.com/lists/792013340883812>
>> only includes shops that run cooperatively or at very least include some
>> DIY elements. I've done this for a specific reason.... I'm an
>> anti-capitalist. I'm interested in how bikes build community and engage
>> people in acts of cooperation and self-determination. There are many
>> "non-profit" shops that sell used bikes for high prices because they
>> believe it will "raise the perceived value" of bikes. There is nothing
>> inherently wrong with this approach except that I'm not interested in money
>> or perceived value. I'm interested in more people learning to do more
>> things for themselves and for others. Cooperatives have the potential to
>> lower costs by focusing on mission rather than profit. They can also
>> transform the social relationships between humans by substituting hierarchy
>> for equality. The benefits of encouraging DIY are obvious.
>>
>> What do you all think? Should I include all "non-profit" bike shop
>> regardless of their mission? What are the arguments for/against?
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Joshua Hoffman <joshuahof at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've put together a Facebook list of all the community bike shops who's
>>> pages I could find. 133 in total from around the world. This list is
>>> constantly turning up amazing stories and new insights (lots of job
>>> opportunities as well).
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/lists/792013340883812
>>>
>>> Please let me know if I need to add other shops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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