[TheThinkTank] selling bikes

Paul Park pauljosephpark at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 09:08:25 PDT 2007


great idea, beth

On 10/19/07, Velocipede Bike Project <info at velocipedebikeproject.org> wrote:
>
> We do someithing at Velocipede that I like. Even though we do try to set
> the price of the bike using all the factors people have mentioned, I also
> like to ask people interested in the bike how much they want to pay.  If
> they say something ridiculously low, I'll give them a counter offer that
> is more reasonable, but still with in their means.  This works for us for
> now because our overhead is still so low.
>
> I came to this method just cause I never know what to charge for bikes,
> and never have the time to do the research on each bike to find out.  I
> also like how it throws people for a loop and emphasizes that we are here
> to make bikes available to the public and while the money helps us to keep
> doing that, it is not our primary focus.
>
> -beth
> velocipede bike project
> baltimore , md
>
> > I actually can't remember if I've answered this question before...
> > Here goes:
> > At the Bike Church in Santa Cruz, bikes are sold either 'as is' (no
> > wrenching done, although it is important to remember that we all spend a
> > lot
> > of time and intellectual labor GETTING the bike onto a hook in the shop)
> > or
> > as a mechanic's pet project. 'As is' bikes are typically priced between
> > $15-$75 depending on all of the concerns that everyone else is posting
> to
> > the list, and how much work needs to be done to make it safe and
> > efficient.
> > Desireability also plays a role in pricing. Bikes that mechanics
> > (core/staff
> > members) work over are priced by deducting the WHOLESALE price of new
> > parts
> > put on the bike, and then splitting the remainder between the mechanic
> and
> > the shop. Thus, if a bike sells for $150, and there are $50 of new parts
> > on
> > it, the mechanic would take $50 and the shop would take $50. The
> mechanic
> > sets the asking price based on the amount of labor put in and the
> > desirability factors mentioned above. True, such systems do result in
> some
> > cherrypicking, so a bike has to be kicking around 'as is' for a month
> > before
> > a mechanic can take it on, and, honestly, NOONE is ever gonna get rich
> > fixing up busted bikes in the middle of the night, no matter how sweet
> the
> > frame is.
> >
> > At BICAS, where I am about to rush off to a collective meeting for,
> things
> > are slightly different. the 'as-is' bikes are called 'pergatory; bikes
> in
> > waiting' (which I just love) and though the factors for pricing are
> pretty
> > similar the prices tend to be a bit lower here than in Santa Cruz (the
> > bikes, overall, are a bit more toward the huffy side though; in Santa
> Cruz
> > we turn those back at the gate, no room, no desire to haul other peoples
> > metal recycling, whereas BICAS has a lot more room and need for all
> types
> > of, uh, 'bikes'). At BICAS the 'floor bikes' (those that a mechanic has
> > gone
> > over) include in the price the RETAIL value of new parts, the 'as-is'
> > value
> > of the bike, and a designation for labor. The labor part is a little
> > unclear
> > policy-wise, as the mechanic approximates the amount of labor that went
> > into
> > the bike, but is paid as an an employee (each staff member is allocated
> > 4hrs
> > of paid work/week to wrench on floor bikes, and if it is slow in the
> shop
> > staff can work on them then too). This is the main difference from the
> > Bike
> > Church, where all of the core mechanics are independent contractors
> > (convenient for income taxes as well as being the actual truth of how
> > tasks
> > are accomplished).
> > Sorry that was kinda lenghty; I hope it is helpful.
> > ride prone but ride proud,
> > kyle
> >
> >>From: "Liza Mattana" <pedals2people at gmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
> >>To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
> >>Subject: [TheThinkTank] selling bikes
> >>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:43:13 -0700
> >>
> >>if this has been answered before, can you link me to the archive thread?
> >>
> >>    my questions is how does your org price used bikes? we've come
> across
> >>    some nice older bikes (bridgestone CB-0 and an old stumpjumper), and
> >>    we're trying to figure out a way to price them, kind of a way to
> >>    standardize the process.
> >>
> >>    we'll be turning them into commuter bikes with fenders and racks and
> >>    making them safe and rideable, but we're not doing complete
> >> overhauls.
> >>i
> >>    know this is a tricky question, but any advice you have will be
> >>    helpful!
> >>
> >>    thanks,
> >>    liza
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Liza Mattana
> >>www.pedals2people.org
> >>Spokane, WA
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