[TheThinkTank] selling bikes

Maggie Fehling feedmetomatoes at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 10:18:11 PDT 2007


At Third Hand, we take in consideration the afore-mentioned quality and
labor but generally two savy mechanics say what they'd pay for the bike if
they wanted it and I price it at the average of the two quotes. Its fair,
quick and easy.



On 10/19/07, Paul Park <pauljosephpark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> great idea, beth
>
> On 10/19/07, Velocipede Bike Project <info at velocipedebikeproject.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > We do someithing at Velocipede that I like. Even though we do try to set
> > the price of the bike using all the factors people have mentioned, I
> > also
> > like to ask people interested in the bike how much they want to pay.  If
> > they say something ridiculously low, I'll give them a counter offer that
> > is more reasonable, but still with in their means.  This works for us
> > for
> > now because our overhead is still so low.
> >
> > I came to this method just cause I never know what to charge for bikes,
> > and never have the time to do the research on each bike to find out.  I
> > also like how it throws people for a loop and emphasizes that we are
> > here
> > to make bikes available to the public and while the money helps us to
> > keep
> > doing that, it is not our primary focus.
> >
> > -beth
> > velocipede bike project
> > baltimore , md
> >
> > > I actually can't remember if I've answered this question before...
> > > Here goes:
> > > At the Bike Church in Santa Cruz, bikes are sold either 'as is' (no
> > > wrenching done, although it is important to remember that we all spend
> > a
> > > lot
> > > of time and intellectual labor GETTING the bike onto a hook in the
> > shop)
> > > or
> > > as a mechanic's pet project. 'As is' bikes are typically priced
> > between
> > > $15-$75 depending on all of the concerns that everyone else is posting
> > to
> > > the list, and how much work needs to be done to make it safe and
> > > efficient.
> > > Desireability also plays a role in pricing. Bikes that mechanics
> > > (core/staff
> > > members) work over are priced by deducting the WHOLESALE price of new
> > > parts
> > > put on the bike, and then splitting the remainder between the mechanic
> > and
> > > the shop. Thus, if a bike sells for $150, and there are $50 of new
> > parts
> > > on
> > > it, the mechanic would take $50 and the shop would take $50. The
> > mechanic
> > > sets the asking price based on the amount of labor put in and the
> > > desirability factors mentioned above. True, such systems do result in
> > some
> > > cherrypicking, so a bike has to be kicking around 'as is' for a month
> > > before
> > > a mechanic can take it on, and, honestly, NOONE is ever gonna get rich
> >
> > > fixing up busted bikes in the middle of the night, no matter how sweet
> > the
> > > frame is.
> > >
> > > At BICAS, where I am about to rush off to a collective meeting for,
> > things
> > > are slightly different. the 'as-is' bikes are called 'pergatory; bikes
> > in
> > > waiting' (which I just love) and though the factors for pricing are
> > pretty
> > > similar the prices tend to be a bit lower here than in Santa Cruz (the
> > > bikes, overall, are a bit more toward the huffy side though; in Santa
> > Cruz
> > > we turn those back at the gate, no room, no desire to haul other
> > peoples
> > > metal recycling, whereas BICAS has a lot more room and need for all
> > types
> > > of, uh, 'bikes'). At BICAS the 'floor bikes' (those that a mechanic
> > has
> > > gone
> > > over) include in the price the RETAIL value of new parts, the 'as-is'
> > > value
> > > of the bike, and a designation for labor. The labor part is a little
> > > unclear
> > > policy-wise, as the mechanic approximates the amount of labor that
> > went
> > > into
> > > the bike, but is paid as an an employee (each staff member is
> > allocated
> > > 4hrs
> > > of paid work/week to wrench on floor bikes, and if it is slow in the
> > shop
> > > staff can work on them then too). This is the main difference from the
> >
> > > Bike
> > > Church, where all of the core mechanics are independent contractors
> > > (convenient for income taxes as well as being the actual truth of how
> > > tasks
> > > are accomplished).
> > > Sorry that was kinda lenghty; I hope it is helpful.
> > > ride prone but ride proud,
> > > kyle
> > >
> > >>From: "Liza Mattana" <pedals2people at gmail.com>
> > >>Reply-To: The Think Tank < thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
> > >>To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
> > >>Subject: [TheThinkTank] selling bikes
> > >>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:43:13 -0700
> > >>
> > >>if this has been answered before, can you link me to the archive
> > thread?
> > >>
> > >>    my questions is how does your org price used bikes? we've come
> > across
> > >>    some nice older bikes (bridgestone CB-0 and an old stumpjumper),
> > and
> > >>    we're trying to figure out a way to price them, kind of a way to
> > >>    standardize the process.
> > >>
> > >>    we'll be turning them into commuter bikes with fenders and racks
> > and
> > >>    making them safe and rideable, but we're not doing complete
> > >> overhauls.
> > >>i
> > >>    know this is a tricky question, but any advice you have will be
> > >>    helpful!
> > >>
> > >>    thanks,
> > >>    liza
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Liza Mattana
> > >>www.pedals2people.org
> > >>Spokane, WA
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