[TheThinkTank] Key woes and solutions!

veganboyjosh at gmail.com veganboyjosh at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 14:06:30 PST 2008


we use one of those combination lock key holder things at Community Cycles
in Boulder. It's the kind realtors use, similar to
these.<http://www.lok-it.com/images/all_keysafe.gif>

not nearly as trackable/updatable/butt swipable as rfid, but cheap and low
maintenance. we only share the combination with a select few, basically the
board members (around 6 or 7) and core staff. we don't have a set policy
about the password, but a volunteer's gotta prove his or her worth before
they're endowed with the knowledge.

this option also leaves open the ability/possibility of someone getting the
combination, and  going and having a copy of the key made...

also, regarding the Freiker program, we have that in Boulder, and it's
pretty successful/actively participated in. We're working on a bike rider
discount sort of thing, where if you're on a bike, local businesses give
discounts, in order to encourage people to ride instead of drive. The
Freiker program is one we're looking to work with to model our program
after, as well as team up with and/or include as participants.






On Feb 8, 2008 2:32 PM, Squeaky Clean <seppukudaily at gmail.com> wrote:

> Non-evil, but still incredibly creepy.  I guess technology and Ipods are a
> simpler solution than education and fostering responsibility.
>
> Squeaky Clean
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 2:40 PM, Jonathan Morrison <jonathan at slcbikecollective.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that
> > encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets:
> >
> > http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jonathan Morrison
> > Executive Director
> > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > 2312 S. West Temple
> > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > w: 801-328-2453
> > c: 801-688-0183
> > f: 801-466-3856
> > www.slcbikecollective.org
> >
> > Get Addicted to Crank!
> > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
> >
> > On Feb 8, 2008 1:39 PM, Jonathan Morrison <
> > jonathan at slcbikecollective.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost"
> > > or M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after
> > > hours.  We did, but after looking into all the options (
> > > http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we
> > > were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door.  This
> > > has worked out really well so far.
> > >
> > > * A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities
> > > sake.
> > >
> > > * Smart cards (
> > > http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9) can be
> > > purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key
> > > cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that
> > > controls the door.
> > >
> > > * Smart cards cannot be copied.
> > >
> > > * If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't
> > > be resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access.
> > > Luckily we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys.
> > >
> > > * Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we
> > > could incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain
> > > times.
> > >
> > > * A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many
> > > people use our shop.  We realize that some people hold the door for others
> > > and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other
> > > out, it is a rough estimate.
> > >
> > > * We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level.  So if it is in
> > > your wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with
> > > the "butt swipe."
> > >
> > > * No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is
> > > just a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader
> > > to detect.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Jonathan Morrison
> > > Executive Director
> > > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > > 2312 S. West Temple
> > > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > > w: 801-328-2453
> > > c: 801-688-0183
> > > f: 801-466-3856
> > > www.slcbikecollective.org
> > >
> > > Get Addicted to Crank!
> > > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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