[TheThinkTank] Parts washers/gmail

Jonathan Morrison jonathan at slcbikecollective.org
Mon Feb 11 07:49:17 PST 2008


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On Feb 10, 2008 1:37 PM, Tom Emm <tom48236 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Pat,
> scroll down a little and click on link that say parts washers, after
> "Kelly bluebook"
> also, a few letters in the gmail should be  looked at.
> Tom
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> 1. Re: bio cleaner, and bike blue book.... (Jonathan Morrison)
> 2. Valet Bike Parking (Jonathan Morrison)
> 3. Re: Valet Bike Parking (ronald ferrucci)
> 4. Re: Valet Bike Parking (keri conrad)
> 5. Re: Valet Bike Parking (Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.)
> 6. Re: Valet Bike Parking (Chris Carlsson)
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:30:46 -0700
> From: "Jonathan Morrison"
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] bio cleaner, and bike blue book....
> To: "The Think Tank"
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> 1) The Kelley Blue Book for cars is also affected by region too. We have a
> unique issue because to keep our shop from getting too full we sell the
> bikes for next to nothing, or give them away to people who have a letter
> from a good will agency, just so they don't start stacking up. Working
> Bikes in Chicago is a great example of an organization who makes their
> margins in quantity.
>
> 2) http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Parts_Washers
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Morrison
> Executive Director
> Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> 2312 S. West Temple
> Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> w: 801-328-2453
> c: 801-688-0183
> f: 801-466-3856
> www.slcbikecollective.org
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> Get Addicted to Crank!
> http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
> On Feb 10, 2008 12:17 AM, Angelo Coletta wrote:
>
> > While there is no comprehensive pricing book for cycles, there are ones
> > that have been done for those who collect "classic American bikes(1930
> to
> > 1960)"
> >
> > I have used a halfing method for appraisal. $200 was the new selling
> > price; 1yr old $100; 2yr $50.00 and so forth. That is a base line. Then
> > comes the art and the subjective: condition, desirability, rarity. Any
> > up-fitting done? Frame type and size. Component quality. Accessories.
> > All factors that affect value. Also there is the wholesale price and the
> > retail price. That would reflect any labor invested in making the unit
> > saleable.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Angelo
> >
> > *Velocipede Bike Project * wrote:
> >
> > So here are two hare brain ideas that have been thrown out here in
> > baltimore and i wanted to get y'alls take on them...
> >
> > 1. a bicycle blue book...we were talking about pricing bikes and how
> > arbitrary it often seems,(often two members will claim wildly different
> > prices with equal authority and citing the same number of sources) and
> > someone mentioned that in this time of the growing bicycle
> > collective/community shop projects there may be enough of a market to be
> > able to approach a publisher about creating a blue book that would price
> > for instance, a 1982 murray...I know this sounds crazy, but I was
> > wondering how crazy was it really....
> >
> > 2. Someone approached us recently about a bio friendly parts cleaner.
> > Apparently it has enzymes that eat oil so less bad stuff going into the
> > environment/less exposure to toxic chemicals ourselves. He said he may
> be
> > able to get us a machine for free, but it would cost around a grand to
> > fill it up. does anyone have any experience with this kind of machine or
> > technology? Is it worth our time and fundraising? I've been thinking
> alot
> > lately about ways to make our shop more green friendly by doing things
> > like cutting down on plastic use and using vinegar and baking soda as
> > cleaners instead of bleach and such...
> >
> >
> http://www.biocircle.com/portal/page?_pageid=73,394253&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
> >
> > what do y'all think? am I crazy?
> > -beth
> > velocipede bike project
> > baltmore, md(hey, try to remember to include your city and shop in
> posts)
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:04:52 -0700
> From: "Jonathan Morrison"
> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Valet Bike Parking
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> Does anyone else do it?
>
> http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Valet_Bike_Parking
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> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Morrison
> Executive Director
> Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> 2312 S. West Temple
> Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> w: 801-328-2453
> c: 801-688-0183
> f: 801-466-3856
> www.slcbikecollective.org
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:06:39 +0100
> From: "ronald ferrucci"
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Valet Bike Parking
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> Sure as hell not me anymore.
>
> On Feb 10, 2008 7:04 PM, Jonathan Morrison
> wrote:
> > Does anyone else do it?
> >
> > http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Valet_Bike_Parking
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jonathan Morrison
> > Executive Director
> > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > 2312 S. West Temple
> > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > w: 801-328-2453
> > c: 801-688-0183
> > f: 801-466-3856
> > www.slcbikecollective.org
> >
> > Get Addicted to Crank!
> > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:59:53 -0700
> From: "keri conrad"
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Valet Bike Parking
> To: "The Think Tank"
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> Only at events, from what I can tell. (Bike related, of course) Like
> at the pedal pushers last year!
>
> On 2/10/08, ronald ferrucci wrote:
> > Sure as hell not me anymore.
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2008 7:04 PM, Jonathan Morrison
> > wrote:
> > > Does anyone else do it?
> > >
> > > http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Valet_Bike_Parking
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Jonathan Morrison
> > > Executive Director
> > > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > > 2312 S. West Temple
> > > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > > w: 801-328-2453
> > > c: 801-688-0183
> > > f: 801-466-3856
> > > www.slcbikecollective.org
> > >
> > > Get Addicted to Crank!
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> --
> Keri
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:26:29 -0500
> From: "Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc."
>
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Valet Bike Parking
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> We have and will continue to do so. Big race in Wilmington last year,
> we parked about 200 bikes...It was a bit of a mess (most of these
> bikes parked in a half hour immediately following a bike parade) but
> our first time and plenty to be learned from the experience.
>
> It get's your name out, people are very appreciative for not having to
> lock up, some even throw a few bucks in the donation jar. We stapled
> a piece of paper to each bike with information about our organization
> and got lots of people emailing after the event.
>
> We had a small "town square" type deal cordoned off and bikes were
> parked with kickstands or leaned against trees/walls. Bikes were
> tagged with a door hang type thing, the person parking got a small
> piece of paper with a matching number that rips off the bottom (will
> post a picture to the wiki when i can). I recommend against using
> this system in the future because the door hangs are not very solidly
> attached and fall off fairly easily.
>
> There was no waiver form filled out (no time at all to fill out and
> lines of 30-50 people waiting to park even without the waiver).
>
> I believe we had 10 of us working the event and it got very hectic.
> Ideally there would be 1-2 people just tagging bikes and 3-5 people
> collecting the bikes at the entrance and parking them. For slower
> volumes you can probably get away with less. We did have a problem
> with people wandering in (friends or otherwise) to park or get their
> bike on their own. I'd suggest volunteers wear identifying shirts
> (different than shirts you may sell to the general public) to make
> sure people are where they should be.
>
> We also provided bike safety checks for people that were interested.
>
> "Sure as hell not me anymore."
>
> Ronald, what are the reasons you don't do bike parking? curious mainly.
>
> Brian Windle
>
> On 2/10/08, keri conrad wrote:
> > Only at events, from what I can tell. (Bike related, of course) Like
> > at the pedal pushers last year!
> >
> > On 2/10/08, ronald ferrucci wrote:
> > > Sure as hell not me anymore.
> > >
> > > On Feb 10, 2008 7:04 PM, Jonathan Morrison
> > > wrote:
> > > > Does anyone else do it?
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Valet_Bike_Parking
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan Morrison
> > > > Executive Director
> > > > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > > > 2312 S. West Temple
> > > > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > > > w: 801-328-2453
> > > > c: 801-688-0183
> > > > f: 801-466-3856
> > > > www.slcbikecollective.org
> > > >
> > > > Get Addicted to Crank!
> > > > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:34:00 -0800
> From: "Chris Carlsson"
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Valet Bike Parking
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> The San Francisco Bicycle Coalition does it all the time at major
> events...
> http://www.sfbike.org/
> --cc
>
> On Feb 10, 2008 10:04 AM, Jonathan Morrison
> wrote:
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> > Does anyone else do it?
> >
> > http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Valet_Bike_Parking
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jonathan Morrison
> > Executive Director
> > Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective
> > 2312 S. West Temple
> > Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> > w: 801-328-2453
> > c: 801-688-0183
> > f: 801-466-3856
> > www.slcbikecollective.org
> >
> > Get Addicted to Crank!
> > http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
> >
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