[TheThinkTank] one million bicycles?

Thu Jun 12 06:57:50 PDT 2008

Wilbur et al.: I have, since my "gut reaction", checked out the info. This does look like a neat idea and project. And it looks credible, based on who Joe is and what he has done in the past. I will always question at first where money is going, but once I see the "proof" and legitimacy, I can be convinced. There are far too many scammers and spammers out there not to be cautious. As for our organization, I always refer people to our website and those who personally know what we do. Word of mouth is the best advertising. I am hoping that Denver is on board for this and that some of the proceeds from the registration will go to the local, legitimate programs for refurbishing of the bikes like Derailer Bicycle Collective
(If this is successful in generating numerous bikes I doubt the program I am associated with could handle such an influx. We are already busy up to our ears!)&nbsp; Eating humble pie, Bruce

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Wilbur Ince &lt;Wilbur at Wilbur.us&gt; wrote:
From: Wilbur Ince &lt;Wilbur at Wilbur.us&gt;
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] one million bicycles?
To: bikedadlien at yahoo.com, "The Think Tank" &lt;thethinktank at bikecollectives.org&gt;
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:27 AM

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Andy, Bruce,

Please check your comments here.&nbsp; Have you investigated this enough to
say the things you did, or are you broadcasting your 'gut reaction'?&nbsp;
If someone said those same things about your organization without
really checking out the facts first would you be offended?&nbsp; 

We are all trying to do what we think is right.&nbsp; We are all trying to
help other people.&nbsp; Creating unwarranted innuendo can have a crushing
effect on projects like this.&nbsp; 

Bruce, rather than asserting 'simple math', look into this and return a
thoughtful informed report back.&nbsp; Everyone would love $5 million, but
could you deliver 1 million bikes?&nbsp; That math does not look so good in
that light.&nbsp; 

Andy, I totally disagree with your assessment.&nbsp; I followed the links
and read something about the people that are doing this.&nbsp; To me, it
looks like this is being taken on by people who ARE aware of collective
bike shops, and have a record of succeeding at local organizing
projects.&nbsp; Read into this, they are building a national movement by
doing just what you suggested - becoming more organized and creating a
national event and awareness.&nbsp; They ARE relying on you to do this!&nbsp; The
$5 is to incorporate the masses to participate.&nbsp; 

You people are doing great things out there as collective bike shops!&nbsp;
Whenever you encounter someone: a sponsor, a customer, another
organizer, think well of them and treat them with the respect they
deserve.&nbsp; They will see your optimism and react to you in a different
way!

Rock on!

Wilbur Ince

Sibley Bike Depot

Saint Paul, Minnesota

Bruce Lien wrote:

        I think the essence of this lies in the fact that each
person is to register and pay $5 to do so. Simple math says that this
times one million will equal $5,000,000. I wish I thought of this. Bruce

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Andy Dyson &lt;andy at neighborhoodbikeworks.org&gt;
wrote:

        From:
Andy Dyson &lt;andy at neighborhoodbikeworks.org&gt;

Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] one million bicycles?

To: "The Think Tank" &lt;thethinktank at bikecollectives.org&gt;

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 7:56 AM

I registered.

Remains to be seen if it's a scam.&nbsp; Looks like it's done by people who
are not aware that there are people who are already distributing free
bikes (possibly by the million...perhaps we should be more organized
and collectively compile our achievements somewhere..&nbsp; another Bright
Idea from Someone who Doesn't have Time to Do It Themselves....).&nbsp;
Either that or they are aware of us and don't care

Who is going to renovate those million bikes?&nbsp; I try to look at
everything as having the potential to be a good partnership for NBW.&nbsp;
This certainly could be, but I can't seem to find a non profit with
that name or address.&nbsp; Anyone can get a .org e-mail.

Certainly would like to see this take off, at least in the form that I
imagine it could

Andy

          veganboyjosh at gmail.com wrote:
          have
any of you heard of www.onemillionbicycles.org?

seems like something people on this list could maybe get behind/help
out in a big way with...

i just came across the website, and the mission sounds solid. i dunno
about the delivery/project specifics. 

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