[TheThinkTank] pos system

Mon Mar 3 22:59:48 PST 2008

you get a copy of it, can you post it on a seperate email?

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Vyki Englert <vyki.englert at thekickstand.org>
wrote:

> We (thekickstand)are also looking for a pos system.  Lucky for us we have
> some computer gurus on board who are familiar with linux and open source
> software.  I run linux myself, and plan to run it at the shop as well, as
> open source seems to fit well into the idea of community... and sharing...
> and happiness :)
> I'll let you know what we decided on when we get a computer at the shop.
> For now we do not have any sales yet.
>
> Wikipedia has a great comparison of accounting software, its a chart:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software
> If you do not intend to run linux, there are opensource applications that
> are cross platform, meaning they will run on windows macs or linux.
> If you want to stick to the main stream, Quickbooks seems to be the most
> popular software for small business.  If you have nonprofit status, you can
> buy a copy from Techsoup really cheap.
> http://techsoup.org
> Techsoup rocks for nonprofits.  They have quite a catalog of software that
> is available to nonprofts for pennies.  As well as sometimes hardware is
> donated.
>
> hope this helps,
> vyki
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Justin Pogge <xecax at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > i was wondering if anyone had a point of sales system on a computer at
> > their shop?
> > i know that the bicycle kitchen in LA does and they were offering a copy
> > of it to anyone that wanted it, but i have not received an email reply from
> > them.
> > i think that it would make keeping track of funds much easier along with
> > helping us do our irs forms.
> > anyone want to share their program?
> > justin
> > krank it up! community bicycle project
> > tallahassee florida
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: mark at re-cycles.ca
> > > Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:10:37 -0500
> > > To: thethinktank at bikecollectives.org
> > > Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] direct-pull brake levers v. everything
> > else
> > >
> > > Below are some guidelines, courtesy of one of our former mechanics.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > ++++++
> > >
> > > The difference between Canti levers and V levers (the difference you
> > > can see) is the distance between the cable head and the lever pivot.
> > > The larger the distance the greater the cable pull, which means less
> > > mechanical advantage which means less scary flip-your-bike-over-but-
> > > mushy-feeling power when mated to v brakes.
> > >
> > > Many newer brake levers also have a little "v" or "c" stamped
> > > somwhere (often on the part of the lever 'handle' that disappears
> > > inside the lever 'body').
> > >
> > > Some other levers can be used with both V's and canti's - the point
> > > in the lever where the cable is anchored is adjustable, either by
> > > moving spacers and manually moving the cable head, or by twirling a
> > > little dial. The latter is only used on higher quality (read: not
> > > likely at most bike recycling places) levers made by Avid.
> > >
> > > And the actual distance betwen pivot and cable? I'm not really sure
> > > exactly, but I would estimate about 2 cm for V levers and approx. 1.5
> > > - 1cm or less for canti levers. Look at any cheap old Lee Chi's or
> > > Di Yung's for a perfect example of a non-v lever.
> > >
> > > If you mate canti levers with v brakes you get very mushy feeling
> > > brakes, crazily uncontrollably powerful brakes, and very little
> > > clearance between the pads and the rim. If you mate v levers with
> > > canti (or caliper or U) brakes you get very low stopping power and an
> > > extremely stiff lever feel. Its actually pretty easy to tell when
> > > you know what you're looking for.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29-Feb-08, at 12:50 PM, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
> > >
> > > > sheldon brown (r.i.p.) went on at length all over his website about
> > > > not mixing direct-pull ("V" brake, noodle brake) brake levers with
> > any
> > > > other type of brakes & vice versa.
> > > >
> > > > here is one quote, from http://www.sheldonbrown.com/canti-
> > > > direct.html :
> > > >
> > > > Direct-pull cantilevers have double the mechanical advantage
> > compared
> > > > with traditional brakes, so they require special brake levers.
> > > > Direct-pull brake levers pull the cable twice as far, half as hard.
> > > > The lower mechanical advantage of the lever compensates for the
> > higher
> > > > M.A. of the cantilever. It is not generally safe to mix and match
> > > > levers/cables between direct pull and other types for this reason.
> > > >
> > > > * Conventional brake levers used with direct-pull cantilevers will
> > > > usually not pull enough cable to stop in wet conditions without
> > > > bottoming out against the handlebars. In dry conditions, they either
> > > > won't work, or will grab too suddenly.
> > > >
> > > > * Direct-pull brake levers used with any other type of brakes will
> > > > feel nice and solid when you squeeze them, but due to their lower
> > > > mechanical advantage you'll need to squeeze twice as hard to stop as
> > > > you should, so unless you are a lightweight rider with gorilla-like
> > > > paws, this combination isn't safe either.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ...end quote
> > > >
> > > > so my question is this... do i need to go through my personal
> > > > collection of brake levers and somehow identify/separate DP levers
> > > > from the rest? is there any simple way to do this? it seems like a
> > > > problem i've seen many people run in to--the brakes seem fine on the
> > > > stand, nonexistant when the bike goes out for a test ride. so this
> > is
> > > > probably something we should be on the lookout for, right?
> > > >
> > > > ok, thanks
> > > >
> > > > erik
> > > >
> > > > of course there is this huge and boring page as well:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html#mechanical
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