[TheThinkTank] Do I have this wrong?

Katie Vogel katharine.d.vogel at gmail.com
Mon Feb 4 19:46:30 PST 2019


Is this person banned yet? Asking for a friend.

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 22:24 <christopher at holisticcycles.com> wrote:

> May I have your best bike for free? or even your best tune up? Or web page
> work, or social media, or NFP wording? What are you willing to do to lift
> up my business for free so that I can lift up yours?
> For free I gave you ideas you had not come up with yet. The idea of
> testing your processes to prove that are the same as or different than you
> current beliefs/ practices. You as a group can reinvent the
> wheel or hold on to your beliefs.
> You can lift me up and I will lift you up. You can shut me down like a
> priests in the dark ages did to people of science. I have no power over
> your actions. I only have knowledge
>
> --------- Original Message ---------
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Do I have this wrong?
> From: "Kevin Dwyer" <kevidwyer at gmail.com>
> Date: 2/4/19 1:32 pm
> To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>
> No, you have it wrong. The knowledge has value, even more, because it is
> given freely. That is the point of ThinkTank: sharing. If you don't want to
> share freely, this is wrong place for you and you are wasting our time.
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:09 PM <christopher at holisticcycles.com> wrote:
>
>> Tell me if I am wrong. If you work on a bike and make it better, that
>> work has value. If I work on a process and make it better, the knowledge
>> has no value and should be given away for free?
>>
>>
>> When
>> someone posts to a mailing list to sell a product, to me that
>> constitutes cause to block that person from the mailing list.
>>
>> If you want to freely share here tutorials and techniques for everyone
>> to review and learn from, in the interest of helping community bike
>> shops hone their skillsets to a higher standard, I'd be the first to get
>> interested. As it is, you never post detailed instructions, and quite
>> frankly a lot of the processes you allude to are bizarrely out of scope
>> with what most of us do on a daily basis. Your posts smell like bait.
>>
>> I'm personally requesting that you reconsider posting here. In this
>> particular case, you even tacked your message onto a completely
>> unrelated thread. I mean, might be I'm actually talking to a spam bot.
>>
>> cyclista Nicholas
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2019-02-03 05:57, christopher at holisticcycles.com wrote:
>> > I will ask a few questions and I am seeking if you have tests to prove
>> > your answers.
>> >
>> > Does a quick release lever change the adjustment of a hub? Yes or No
>> > is not important, how do you test to verify your answer is important.
>> > How can this test be used to reduce service time to 1/20 the time?
>> >
>> > What does facing do for the customers ride experience? Nothing/
>> > Something? The following answers are guesses, beliefs, not science or
>> > engineering based: it should be done, it is done at the factory, it
>> > does not need to be done, eliminates pedal click, professional cyclist
>> > have it done. So what does it do? how does it improve a cyclist ride
>> > experience? How do you verify your answer?
>> >
>> > How do stainless steel spokes and cables stretch once and then
>> > magically become harder and never stretch again? If they do not
>> > stretch once, then how do they get longer once? How do you verify your
>> > answer?
>> >
>> > Do Bolts stretch? Yes or No, how do you verify your answer?
>> >
>> > How does a chain that can stretch at 900 Kg or 2000 pounds of force
>> > get stretched on a bike frame that can only support a 160 Kg or 350
>> > lbs cyclist. How can a 45 Kg or 100 pound cyclist put 900 Kg or
>> > 2000 Lbs of force into a chain to stretch it? Without destroying their
>> > knees? How do you verify your answer?
>> > Which leads to the question, How does one type of shift lever make a
>> > chain function twice as long as another type. How do you verify your
>> > answer?
>> >
>> > Why do mechanics tighten and loosen spokes? When a cyclist uses a
>> > wheel spokes get looser. Spokes only need to be tightened to round,
>> > dish, tension, and true a wheel. How can finite element analysis and
>> > computational fluid dynamics help a mechanic work 36 times more
>> > efficiently?
>> >
>> > How can understanding the Sphere Stacking Equation improve the
>> > hydraulic systems on a bicycle? (Both hydraulic braking and suspension
>> > systems) and make cycling safer.
>> >
>> > How can a mechanic use a bench as a tool to reduce service time 25%
>> >
>> > Would it help your school, your students, bicycle businesses and
>> > cyclist; if your curriculum included verifiable testing processes,
>> > efficient practices to reduce procedure time 25% to 50%, service sale
>> > language to help cyclist understand what a procedure does to improve
>> > their cycling experience to improve sales?
>> >
>> >
>> > If any of this or all of this is new to you and you would like to
>> > improve your training, feel free to reach out and start a conversation
>> > telephone only. 773 -490 -0683 Christopher O. Wallace . I am located
>> > in Chicago Illinois.
>> >
>> > PS
>> > Yes I have re-invented the wheel three different ways, I am looking to
>> > improve the cycling industry and I feel schools are the best way to do
>> > that! I look forward to hearing from you.
>> >
>> > Sincerely
>> > Christopher O, Wallace
>> >
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