[TheThinkTank] Do I have this wrong?

Anibal Davila caffenated at gmail.com
Tue Feb 5 06:13:01 PST 2019


Thanks Godwin

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 8:46 AM Kevin Dwyer <kevidwyer at gmail.com wrote:

> That sucks but, many thanks, Godwin.
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:20 PM Lauren Warbeck <lauren.warbeck at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your continued work Godwin 🤗🤩💃💃💃👌👍🙌💖
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 9:07 PM Godwin ! <goodgodwin at hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. I sent him an email asking him to stop and apologize, he replied
>>> with more confusing insults and continued to post gibberish to the TT so I
>>> removed and blocked him.
>>>
>>> godwin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Thethinktank <thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>>> on behalf of Katie Vogel <katharine.d.vogel at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* February 4, 2019 7:46 PM
>>> *To:* The Think Tank
>>> *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Do I have this wrong?
>>>
>>> Is this person banned yet? Asking for a friend.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 22:24 <christopher at holisticcycles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> May I have your best bike for free? or even your best tune up? Or web
>>> page work, or social media, or NFP wording? What are you willing to do to
>>> lift up my business for free so that I can lift up yours?
>>> For free I gave you ideas you had not come up with yet. The idea of
>>> testing your processes to prove that are the same as or different than you
>>> current beliefs/ practices. You as a group can reinvent the
>>> wheel or hold on to your beliefs.
>>> You can lift me up and I will lift you up. You can shut me down like a
>>> priests in the dark ages did to people of science. I have no power over
>>> your actions. I only have knowledge
>>>
>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Do I have this wrong?
>>> From: "Kevin Dwyer" <kevidwyer at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 2/4/19 1:32 pm
>>> To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>>>
>>> No, you have it wrong. The knowledge has value, even more, because it is
>>> given freely. That is the point of ThinkTank: sharing. If you don't want to
>>> share freely, this is wrong place for you and you are wasting our time.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:09 PM <christopher at holisticcycles.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tell me if I am wrong. If you work on a bike and make it better, that
>>> work has value. If I work on a process and make it better, the knowledge
>>> has no value and should be given away for free?
>>>
>>>
>>> When
>>> someone posts to a mailing list to sell a product, to me that
>>> constitutes cause to block that person from the mailing list.
>>>
>>> If you want to freely share here tutorials and techniques for everyone
>>> to review and learn from, in the interest of helping community bike
>>> shops hone their skillsets to a higher standard, I'd be the first to get
>>> interested. As it is, you never post detailed instructions, and quite
>>> frankly a lot of the processes you allude to are bizarrely out of scope
>>> with what most of us do on a daily basis. Your posts smell like bait.
>>>
>>> I'm personally requesting that you reconsider posting here. In this
>>> particular case, you even tacked your message onto a completely
>>> unrelated thread. I mean, might be I'm actually talking to a spam bot.
>>>
>>> cyclista Nicholas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-02-03 05:57, christopher at holisticcycles.com wrote:
>>> > I will ask a few questions and I am seeking if you have tests to prove
>>> > your answers.
>>> >
>>> > Does a quick release lever change the adjustment of a hub? Yes or No
>>> > is not important, how do you test to verify your answer is important.
>>> > How can this test be used to reduce service time to 1/20 the time?
>>> >
>>> > What does facing do for the customers ride experience? Nothing/
>>> > Something? The following answers are guesses, beliefs, not science or
>>> > engineering based: it should be done, it is done at the factory, it
>>> > does not need to be done, eliminates pedal click, professional cyclist
>>> > have it done. So what does it do? how does it improve a cyclist ride
>>> > experience? How do you verify your answer?
>>> >
>>> > How do stainless steel spokes and cables stretch once and then
>>> > magically become harder and never stretch again? If they do not
>>> > stretch once, then how do they get longer once? How do you verify your
>>> > answer?
>>> >
>>> > Do Bolts stretch? Yes or No, how do you verify your answer?
>>> >
>>> > How does a chain that can stretch at 900 Kg or 2000 pounds of force
>>> > get stretched on a bike frame that can only support a 160 Kg or 350
>>> > lbs cyclist. How can a 45 Kg or 100 pound cyclist put 900 Kg or
>>> > 2000 Lbs of force into a chain to stretch it? Without destroying their
>>> > knees? How do you verify your answer?
>>> > Which leads to the question, How does one type of shift lever make a
>>> > chain function twice as long as another type. How do you verify your
>>> > answer?
>>> >
>>> > Why do mechanics tighten and loosen spokes? When a cyclist uses a
>>> > wheel spokes get looser. Spokes only need to be tightened to round,
>>> > dish, tension, and true a wheel. How can finite element analysis and
>>> > computational fluid dynamics help a mechanic work 36 times more
>>> > efficiently?
>>> >
>>> > How can understanding the Sphere Stacking Equation improve the
>>> > hydraulic systems on a bicycle? (Both hydraulic braking and suspension
>>> > systems) and make cycling safer.
>>> >
>>> > How can a mechanic use a bench as a tool to reduce service time 25%
>>> >
>>> > Would it help your school, your students, bicycle businesses and
>>> > cyclist; if your curriculum included verifiable testing processes,
>>> > efficient practices to reduce procedure time 25% to 50%, service sale
>>> > language to help cyclist understand what a procedure does to improve
>>> > their cycling experience to improve sales?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > If any of this or all of this is new to you and you would like to
>>> > improve your training, feel free to reach out and start a conversation
>>> > telephone only. 773 -490 -0683 Christopher O. Wallace . I am located
>>> > in Chicago Illinois.
>>> >
>>> > PS
>>> > Yes I have re-invented the wheel three different ways, I am looking to
>>> > improve the cycling industry and I feel schools are the best way to do
>>> > that! I look forward to hearing from you.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely
>>> > Christopher O, Wallace
>>> >
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