[TheThinkTank] Reliable ... pump for outside of shop

Christine Bourgeois cbarreb at gmail.com
Tue Mar 17 11:32:33 PDT 2020

Hi all,

Yesterday, during our online staff meeting for Bici Centro Santa Barbara
and Bici Centro Santa Maria, CA, we discussed the idea of leaving a pump
outside of our shops and decided against it because of contamination...
If riders need to pump their tires, gas stations are good options. There is
usually water and soap to wash hands...

Thank you all and stay healthy!
Christine Bourgeois
*Education Director, LCI #2255*
Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition

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On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:32 AM Anibal Davila <caffenated at gmail.com> wrote:

> Weve gone through a few iterations of this. From a commercial
> bolted-to-the-pavement artillery piece of a hand pump, to a beater pump
> that only comes out on request during busy open hours.
> Our solution was to run a hose from our air compressor inside, put braided
> metal hose over everything but the last foot (this turned out to be
> completely unnecessary). We turn off the compressor every night in case
> someone cuts the hose to steal the chuck, that way we only lose a tank of
> air and the compressor does not run all night.
> We just finished refurbishing it for our covid closure. While the air
> chuck still craps out regularly, it's much cheaper and easier to replace a
> little $10 part than to replace a hand pump. Also, while no one has yet
> cut the line, we found that with a hose repair kit, you can just shorten
> the line each time the outdoor end gets damaged.
> If you look closely at the photo (sorry arnaud), you can see the braided
> armor hose. The hose clamps from the repair kit at the end of the red hose,
> and a bent spoke clip so that it can be hung back up (no one has ever hung
> it back up). A big part of the damage has been due to everything hanging at
> snow and salt spray ground level.
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 AM Jeff Potter <jeff at outyourbackdoor.com>
> wrote:
>> Is there a plan for a pump like this? And it’s less likely to be stolen?
>> I’m wondering if our shop might be able to fill this need via “beater
>> pumps.” We get a ton of stuff donated. Sometimes pumps. We could request
>> more pumps. Our shop has about 6 pumps in various states of usefulness.
>> Beater pumps seem to be the rule. So I wonder if a beater pump left outside
>> tied to the bike rack with a rope might do the trick. Would it be a hint
>> that locals would respect? Heck we resell donated pumps for $5. Maybe too
>> many street kids would rather steal than pay $5.
>> Jeff
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 11:15 AM, General Manager <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> You guys are clever, from what I can tell, when I was visiting. No reason
>> why you all can't fabricate  a very sturdy pedal powered pump.  Angelo
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:09 AM BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org> wrote:
>>> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :(
>>> Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside
>>> that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>>> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
>>> uncertain times.
>>> ~Carlyn
>>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Jeff-
>>>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for
>>>> Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5
>>>> _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the
>>>> Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be
>>>> carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of
>>>> community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive
>>>> steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>>> William Beasley
>>>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>>> On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <
>>>> thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of
>>>> jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
>>>>     Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside
>>>> the door!
>>>>     I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>>>     Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>>>     We’re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if
>>>> asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our
>>>> core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we
>>>> will be fine.
>>>>     Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be
>>>> in a diff mode than OH?
>>>>     Or should we all go to “stop all nonessential activity” mode to be
>>>> safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless — we have hundreds of
>>>> excess tubes!
>>>>     We’re talking 3 at a time — this is not a “big group.” It’s still
>>>> doing social distancing but it’s not total isolation. We can use spray
>>>> bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>>>     …Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation
>>>> mode. Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total
>>>> isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we’d stop all shop
>>>> activity if that’s best. I’m in favor of over-responding now to do all we
>>>> can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so?
>>>> Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>>>     Jeff Potter
>>>>     Lansing Bike Co-op
>>>>     Michigan
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