[TheThinkTank] Coronavirus Update / Thethinktank Digest, Vol 162, Issue 7

Robert Rands cheerfulharmony at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 18 13:28:02 PDT 2020



"Hopefully we've all done enough community work
>>> to help people learn skills to work together [& on their own]
>>> and fix things, with o[]r without a dedicated
>>> space.""


"Coronavirus Update:

Sopo Bicycle Cooperative [Reynoldstown, Atlanta] is committed to the safety and health of our patrons and volunteers. As we navigate through these difficult times, we've decided to close operations until further notice."


~Robert R.



 On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 08:05:37 PM UTC, <thethinktank-request at lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote:





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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Reliable infection numbers (BICAS ADMIN)
  2. Re: the virus and community bike shops, essential services
      thought (carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org)
  3. Re: the virus and community bike shops, essential services
      thought (Cyclista Nicholas)
  4. Re: the virus and community bike shops, essential services
      thought (Edstewart)
  5. Re: the virus and community bike shops, essential services
      thought (Mark Rehder)
  6. Re: Reliable infection numbers (General Manager)
  7. Re: Reliable ... pump for outside of shop (Jeff Potter)
  8. Re: Reliable ... pump for outside of shop (Anibal Davila)
  9. Re: Reliable ... pump for outside of shop (Christine Bourgeois)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:32:06 -0700
From: BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Reliable infection numbers
Message-ID: <FDB33F84-5B38-4A9C-9717-A36B9BD8DA4A at bicas.org>
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We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :( Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??

Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these uncertain times.

~Carlyn

> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/
>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jeff-
>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5 _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>
>> William Beasley
>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>
>> ?On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside the door!
>>
>>    I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>
>>    Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>
>>    We?re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we will be fine.
>>
>>    Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be in a diff mode than OH?
>>
>>    Or should we all go to ?stop all nonessential activity? mode to be safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless ? we have hundreds of excess tubes!
>>
>>    We?re talking 3 at a time ? this is not a ?big group.? It?s still doing social distancing but it?s not total isolation. We can use spray bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>
>>    ?Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation mode. Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we?d stop all shop activity if that?s best. I?m in favor of over-responding now to do all we can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so? Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>
>>    Jeff Potter
>>    Lansing Bike Co-op
>>    Michigan
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:39:18 -0700
From: carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] the virus and community bike shops,
    essential services thought
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We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today through the end of the month at least. :(

Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??

Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these uncertain times.

~Car

Carlyn Arteaga

pronouns: they/them/theirs

Youth Program Coordinator

BICAS

2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950

carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org | www.bicas.org | Facebook | Instagram

Through advocacy and bicycle salvage, our mission is to participate in affordable bicycle transportation, education, and creative recycling with our greater Tucson community.


> On Mar 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista at inventati.org> wrote:
>
> Here's Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles decision/policy, posted last night.
>
> For reference, April 13 is when public schools will be closed until here, and two of the projects mentioned below completed today and two others the day before. We have one project left, a father and daughter build project that is nearly done, but I doubt they will come in during this time. Also, we only have one or two volunteers and one person on staff (me) right now, though we were in the middle of hiring and new staff training for up to four people may be scheduled over this break, absent symptoms permitting. The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases here currently is one, and this is a city with three higher education institutions, one of them being Cornell, so it's likely the actual current infections are higher.
>
> "Hi everyone,
>
> We're all shuffling our cards in an attempt  to come up with best practices for moving forward through this pandemic, and RIBs is committed to doing its best to make choices that help.
>
> Here are the changes Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles will be implementing from Sunday, March 15, to Wednesday, April 13 in response to these conditions:
>
> - Open shop will be closed. This means we will not be allowing any use of the space for public work on bikes. Exceptions will be made for the two or three people whose projects here are currently in progress.
>
> - We will retain our normal hours, but for retail and volunteering only.
>
> - Strict sanitary procedures will be enforced on the property and posted throughout the premises.
>
> - Open shop on Saturday will be replaced with a weekly group ride (look for more details coming soon).
>
> - Volunteer nights on Mondays are now closed.
>
> - Some basic tools will be leashed to the racks outside the front of the shop for people to work on their own bikes.
>
> - We will reassess all measures for COVID-19 on an ongoing basis, posting updates here and on the Tompkins County Human Services Listserv.
>
> We greatly value all of our community and hope to resume open shop as soon as safety permits.
>
> Please take care of yourselves."
>
> ~cyclista Nicholas
>
>
>> On 2020-03-14 19:55, peter at BikeClarkCounty.org wrote:
>> Free community volunteer delivery by car/bike for elderly/needy:
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAMZHbn6md19Tb28SM53ayFAQK02xJv1NXVjL-J26tDZOQ-g/viewform
>> https://bikeportland.org/2020/03/12/cycling-through-the-covid-19-outbreak-312378
>>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Bob Giordano <mist at strans.org> wrote:
>>> Just a quick thought on 'essential services':
>>> I think that community bicycle shops are essential
>>> for healthy, vibrant, socially just communities,
>>> in today's 'modern' age.... especially as a long
>>> term strategy to improve our cooperative systems.
>>> Community bicycle shops are likely not essential
>>> as far as absolute survival and in the context of
>>> remaining open during this pandemic.
>>> Hopefully we've all done enough community work
>>> to help people learn skills to work together
>>> and fix things, with our without a dedicated
>>> space.
>>> Just wanted to put this thought out there, as
>>> many shops are deciding how to move forward.
>>> Thanks, Bob Giordano, Free Cycles Missoula
>>> ____________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 21:57:06 +0000
From: Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista at inventati.org>
To: thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] the virus and community bike shops,
    essential services thought
Message-ID: <af321b61663f2b637ae8128bcb057178 at inventati.org>
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We have a lot of old bike lock cables we've salvaged from old cut locks
laying around. We'll be making a loop at each end and crimping them with
flattened nuts, one end will be fastened to the bike rack outside the
shop and the other will be attached to a pump. We have a lot of old
floor pumps laying around and I expect to replace the pump a few times
if they get stolen before giving up putting them out alltogether. I'm
only putting one out because that's all I think we'll need, but I wonder
if putting more out in this fashion might help reduce the perception of
scarcity, i.e. a mentality that could encourage theft.

We're also using this method for tools, also ones we can stand to lose
if they get stolen, but in the case of tools, old lock cables are either
too short or not flexible enough, and so I went to the hardware store
and bought 50ft of cable for about $20 total for the tools to be leashed
with.

In all honesty, we've played with this idea for a long time before now
and it's kind of cool to have an excuse to experiment with it.

~cyclista Nicholas


On 2020-03-16 21:39, carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org wrote:
> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today
> through the end of the month at least. :(
>
> Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left
> outside that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>
> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
> uncertain times.
>
> ~Car
>
> Carlyn Arteaga
>
> pronouns: they/them/theirs
>
> Youth Program Coordinator
>
> BICAS
>
> 2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950
>
> carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org | www.bicas.org | Facebook | Instagram
>
> Through advocacy and bicycle salvage, our mission is to participate in
> affordable bicycle transportation, education, and creative recycling
> with our greater Tucson community.
>
>
>> On Mar 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cyclista Nicholas
>> <cyclista at inventati.org> wrote:
>>
>> Here's Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles decision/policy, posted last night.
>>
>> For reference, April 13 is when public schools will be closed until
>> here, and two of the projects mentioned below completed today and two
>> others the day before. We have one project left, a father and daughter
>> build project that is nearly done, but I doubt they will come in
>> during this time. Also, we only have one or two volunteers and one
>> person on staff (me) right now, though we were in the middle of hiring
>> and new staff training for up to four people may be scheduled over
>> this break, absent symptoms permitting. The number of confirmed
>> COVID-19 cases here currently is one, and this is a city with three
>> higher education institutions, one of them being Cornell, so it's
>> likely the actual current infections are higher.
>>
>> "Hi everyone,
>>
>> We're all shuffling our cards in an attempt  to come up with best
>> practices for moving forward through this pandemic, and RIBs is
>> committed to doing its best to make choices that help.
>>
>> Here are the changes Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles will be implementing
>> from Sunday, March 15, to Wednesday, April 13 in response to these
>> conditions:
>>
>> - Open shop will be closed. This means we will not be allowing any use
>> of the space for public work on bikes. Exceptions will be made for the
>> two or three people whose projects here are currently in progress.
>>
>> - We will retain our normal hours, but for retail and volunteering
>> only.
>>
>> - Strict sanitary procedures will be enforced on the property and
>> posted throughout the premises.
>>
>> - Open shop on Saturday will be replaced with a weekly group ride
>> (look for more details coming soon).
>>
>> - Volunteer nights on Mondays are now closed.
>>
>> - Some basic tools will be leashed to the racks outside the front of
>> the shop for people to work on their own bikes.
>>
>> - We will reassess all measures for COVID-19 on an ongoing basis,
>> posting updates here and on the Tompkins County Human Services
>> Listserv.
>>
>> We greatly value all of our community and hope to resume open shop as
>> soon as safety permits.
>>
>> Please take care of yourselves."
>>
>> ~cyclista Nicholas
>>
>>
>>> On 2020-03-14 19:55, peter at BikeClarkCounty.org wrote:
>>> Free community volunteer delivery by car/bike for elderly/needy:
>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAMZHbn6md19Tb28SM53ayFAQK02xJv1NXVjL-J26tDZOQ-g/viewform
>>> https://bikeportland.org/2020/03/12/cycling-through-the-covid-19-outbreak-312378
>>>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Bob Giordano <mist at strans.org> wrote:
>>>> Just a quick thought on 'essential services':
>>>> I think that community bicycle shops are essential
>>>> for healthy, vibrant, socially just communities,
>>>> in today's 'modern' age.... especially as a long
>>>> term strategy to improve our cooperative systems.
>>>> Community bicycle shops are likely not essential
>>>> as far as absolute survival and in the context of
>>>> remaining open during this pandemic.
>>>> Hopefully we've all done enough community work
>>>> to help people learn skills to work together
>>>> and fix things, with our without a dedicated
>>>> space.
>>>> Just wanted to put this thought out there, as
>>>> many shops are deciding how to move forward.
>>>> Thanks, Bob Giordano, Free Cycles Missoula
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>> The ThinkTank mailing List
>>>> Unsubscribe from this list here:
>>>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:45:36 -0400
From: Edstewart <emsco514 at gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] the virus and community bike shops,
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 22:49:55 -0400
From: Mark Rehder <mark at re-cycles.ca>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] the virus and community bike shops,
    essential services thought
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Here in Ottawa (Canada), we (re-Cycles and Cycle Salvation) have closed our shop until further notice. Both orgs. will have staff in to work on donated bikes, but that?s it.

Mark Rehder - Coordinator
re-Cycles Community Bike Shop
http://re-cycles.ca


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Edstewart <emsco514 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At the Elyria (Ohio) Bicycle Education Center we are keeping normal hours but limiting to one staff per shift and one customer inside at a time. All sanitation practices are as suggested by health agencies. Our group programming is on hiatus until who knows when.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Cyclista Nicholas
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:14 PM
> To: thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org
> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] the virus and community bike shops, essential services thought
>
> We have a lot of old bike lock cables we've salvaged from old cut locks
> laying around. We'll be making a loop at each end and crimping them with
> flattened nuts, one end will be fastened to the bike rack outside the
> shop and the other will be attached to a pump. We have a lot of old
> floor pumps laying around and I expect to replace the pump a few times
> if they get stolen before giving up putting them out alltogether. I'm
> only putting one out because that's all I think we'll need, but I wonder
> if putting more out in this fashion might help reduce the perception of
> scarcity, i.e. a mentality that could encourage theft.
>
> We're also using this method for tools, also ones we can stand to lose
> if they get stolen, but in the case of tools, old lock cables are either
> too short or not flexible enough, and so I went to the hardware store
> and bought 50ft of cable for about $20 total for the tools to be leashed
> with.
>
> In all honesty, we've played with this idea for a long time before now
> and it's kind of cool to have an excuse to experiment with it.
>
> ~cyclista Nicholas
>
>
> On 2020-03-16 21:39, carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org wrote:
> > We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today
> > through the end of the month at least. :(
> >
> > Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left
> > outside that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
> >
> > Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
> > uncertain times.
> >
> > ~Car
> >
> > Carlyn Arteaga
> >
> > pronouns: they/them/theirs
> >
> > Youth Program Coordinator
> >
> > BICAS
> >
> > 2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950
> >
> > carlyn.arteaga at bicas.org | www.bicas.org | Facebook | Instagram
> >
> > Through advocacy and bicycle salvage, our mission is to participate in
> > affordable bicycle transportation, education, and creative recycling
> > with our greater Tucson community.
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 15, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Cyclista Nicholas
> >> <cyclista at inventati.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles decision/policy, posted last night.
> >>
> >> For reference, April 13 is when public schools will be closed until
> >> here, and two of the projects mentioned below completed today and two
> >> others the day before. We have one project left, a father and daughter
> >> build project that is nearly done, but I doubt they will come in
> >> during this time. Also, we only have one or two volunteers and one
> >> person on staff (me) right now, though we were in the middle of hiring
> >> and new staff training for up to four people may be scheduled over
> >> this break, absent symptoms permitting. The number of confirmed
> >> COVID-19 cases here currently is one, and this is a city with three
> >> higher education institutions, one of them being Cornell, so it's
> >> likely the actual current infections are higher.
> >>
> >> "Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> We're all shuffling our cards in an attempt  to come up with best
> >> practices for moving forward through this pandemic, and RIBs is
> >> committed to doing its best to make choices that help.
> >>
> >> Here are the changes Recycle Ithaca's Bicycles will be implementing
> >> from Sunday, March 15, to Wednesday, April 13 in response to these
> >> conditions:
> >>
> >> - Open shop will be closed. This means we will not be allowing any use
> >> of the space for public work on bikes Exceptions will be made for the
> >> two or three people whose projects here are currently in progress.
> >>
> >> - We will retain our normal hours, but for retail and volunteering
> >> only.
> >>
> >> - Strict sanitary procedures will be enforced on the property and
> >> posted throughout the premises.
> >>
> >> - Open shop on Saturday will be replaced with a weekly group ride
> >> (look for more details coming soon).
> >>
> >> - Volunteer nights on Mondays are now closed.
> >>
> >> - Some basic tools will be leashed to the racks outside the front of
> >> the shop for people to work on their own bikes.
> >>
> >> - We will reassess all measures for COVID-19 on an ongoing basis,
> >> posting updates here and on the Tompkins County Human Services
> >> Listserv.
> >>
> >> We greatly value all of our community and hope to resume open shop as
> >> soon as safety permits.
> >>
> >> Please take care of yourselves."
> >>
> >> ~cyclista Nicholas
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2020-03-14 19:55, peter at BikeClarkCounty.org wrote:
> >>> Free community volunteer delivery by car/bike for elderly/needy:
> >>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfAMZHbn6md19Tb28SM53ayFAQK02xJv1NXVjL-J26tDZOQ-g/viewform
> >>> https://bikeportland.org/2020/03/12/cycling-through-the-covid-19-outbreak-312378
> >>>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Bob Giordano <mist at strans.org> wrote:
> >>>> Just a quick thought on 'essential services':
> >>>> I think that community bicycle shops are essential
> >>>> for healthy, vibrant, socially just communities,
> >>>> in today's 'modern' age.... especially as a long
> >>>> term strategy to improve our cooperative systems.
> >>>> Community bicycle shops are likely not essential
> >>>> as far as absolute survival and in the context of
> >>>> remaining open during this pandemic.
> >>>> Hopefully we've all done enough community work
> >>>> to help people learn skills to work together
> >>>> and fix things, with our without a dedicated
> >>>> space.
> >>>> Just wanted to put this thought out there, as
> >>>> many shops are deciding how to move forward.
> >>>> Thanks, Bob Giordano, Free Cycles Missoula
> >>>> ____________________________________
> >>>>


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 10:15:43 -0500
From: General Manager <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Reliable infection numbers
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You guys are clever, from what I can tell, when I was visiting. No reason
why you all can't fabricate  a very sturdy pedal powered pump.  Angelo

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:09 AM BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org> wrote:

> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :( Does
> anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside that is
> less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>
> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
> uncertain times.
>
> ~Carlyn
>
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jeff-
>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for
>> Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5
>> _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the
>> Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be
>> carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of
>> community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive
>> steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>
>> William Beasley
>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>
>> ?On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <
>> thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of
>> jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside
>> the door!
>>
>>    I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>
>>    Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>
>>    We?re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if
>> asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our
>> core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we
>> will be fine.
>>
>>    Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be
>> in a diff mode than OH?
>>
>>    Or should we all go to ?stop all nonessential activity? mode to be
>> safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless ? we have hundreds of
>> excess tubes!
>>
>>    We?re talking 3 at a time ? this is not a ?big group.? It?s still
>> doing social distancing but it?s not total isolation. We can use spray
>> bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>
>>    ?Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation mode.
>> Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total
>> isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we?d stop all shop
>> activity if that?s best. I?m in favor of over-responding now to do all we
>> can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so?
>> Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>
>>    Jeff Potter
>>    Lansing Bike Co-op
>>    Michigan
>>    ____________________________________
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:46:03 -0400
From: Jeff Potter <jeff at outyourbackdoor.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Reliable ... pump for outside of shop
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Is there a plan for a pump like this? And it?s less likely to be stolen?

I?m wondering if our shop might be able to fill this need via ?beater pumps.? We get a ton of stuff donated. Sometimes pumps. We could request more pumps. Our shop has about 6 pumps in various states of usefulness. Beater pumps seem to be the rule. So I wonder if a beater pump left outside tied to the bike rack with a rope might do the trick. Would it be a hint that locals would respect? Heck we resell donated pumps for $5. Maybe too many street kids would rather steal than pay $5.

Jeff


> On Mar 17, 2020, at 11:15 AM, General Manager <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You guys are clever, from what I can tell, when I was visiting. No reason why you all can't fabricate  a very sturdy pedal powered pump.  Angelo
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:09 AM BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org <mailto:bicas at bicas.org>> wrote:
> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :( Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>
> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these uncertain times.
>
> ~Carlyn
>
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com <mailto:gamesbledsoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/ <https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com <mailto:wm.a.beasley at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Jeff-
>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5 _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>
>> William Beasley
>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>
>> ?On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org> on behalf of jeff at outyourbackdoor.com <mailto:jeff at outyourbackdoor.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside the door!
>>
>>    I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>
>>    Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>
>>    We?re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we will be fine.
>>
>>    Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be in a diff mode than OH?
>>
>>    Or should we all go to ?stop all nonessential activity? mode to be safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless ? we have hundreds of excess tubes!
>>
>>    We?re talking 3 at a time ? this is not a ?big group.? It?s still doing social distancing but it?s not total isolation. We can use spray bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>
>>    ?Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation mode. Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we?d stop all shop activity if that?s best. I?m in favor of over-responding now to do all we can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so? Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>
>>    Jeff Potter
>>    Lansing Bike Co-op
>>    Michigan
>>    ____________________________________
>>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:31:52 -0400
From: Anibal Davila <caffenated at gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Reliable ... pump for outside of shop
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Weve gone through a few iterations of this. From a commercial
bolted-to-the-pavement artillery piece of a hand pump, to a beater pump
that only comes out on request during busy open hours.

Our solution was to run a hose from our air compressor inside, put braided
metal hose over everything but the last foot (this turned out to be
completely unnecessary). We turn off the compressor every night in case
someone cuts the hose to steal the chuck, that way we only lose a tank of
air and the compressor does not run all night.

We just finished refurbishing it for our covid closure. While the air chuck
still craps out regularly, it's much cheaper and easier to replace a little
$10 part than to replace a hand pump. Also, while no one has yet cut the
line, we found that with a hose repair kit, you can just shorten the line
each time the outdoor end gets damaged.

If you look closely at the photo (sorry arnaud), you can see the braided
armor hose. The hose clamps from the repair kit at the end of the red hose,
and a bent spoke clip so that it can be hung back up (no one has ever hung
it back up). A big part of the damage has been due to everything hanging at
snow and salt spray ground level.




On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 AM Jeff Potter <jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:

> Is there a plan for a pump like this? And it?s less likely to be stolen?
>
> I?m wondering if our shop might be able to fill this need via ?beater
> pumps.? We get a ton of stuff donated. Sometimes pumps. We could request
> more pumps. Our shop has about 6 pumps in various states of usefulness.
> Beater pumps seem to be the rule. So I wonder if a beater pump left outside
> tied to the bike rack with a rope might do the trick. Would it be a hint
> that locals would respect? Heck we resell donated pumps for $5. Maybe too
> many street kids would rather steal than pay $5.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 11:15 AM, General Manager <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> You guys are clever, from what I can tell, when I was visiting. No reason
> why you all can't fabricate  a very sturdy pedal powered pump.  Angelo
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:09 AM BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org> wrote:
>
>> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :(
>> Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside
>> that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>>
>> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
>> uncertain times.
>>
>> ~Carlyn
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff-
>>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for
>>> Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5
>>> _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the
>>> Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be
>>> carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of
>>> community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive
>>> steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>>
>>> William Beasley
>>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>>
>>> ?On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <
>>> thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of
>>> jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside
>>> the door!
>>>
>>>    I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>>
>>>    Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>>
>>>    We?re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if
>>> asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our
>>> core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we
>>> will be fine.
>>>
>>>    Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be
>>> in a diff mode than OH?
>>>
>>>    Or should we all go to ?stop all nonessential activity? mode to be
>>> safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless ? we have hundreds of
>>> excess tubes!
>>>
>>>    We?re talking 3 at a time ? this is not a ?big group.? It?s still
>>> doing social distancing but it?s not total isolation. We can use spray
>>> bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>>
>>>    ?Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation mode.
>>> Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total
>>> isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we?d stop all shop
>>> activity if that?s best. I?m in favor of over-responding now to do all we
>>> can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so?
>>> Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>>
>>>    Jeff Potter
>>>    Lansing Bike Co-op
>>>    Michigan
>>>    ____________________________________
>>>
>>>    The ThinkTank mailing List
>>>
>>>    Unsubscribe from this list here:
>>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:32:33 -0700
From: Christine Bourgeois <cbarreb at gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Reliable ... pump for outside of shop
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Hi all,

Yesterday, during our online staff meeting for Bici Centro Santa Barbara
and Bici Centro Santa Maria, CA, we discussed the idea of leaving a pump
outside of our shops and decided against it because of contamination...
If riders need to pump their tires, gas stations are good options. There is
usually water and soap to wash hands...

Thank you all and stay healthy!
--
Christine Bourgeois
*Education Director, LCI #2255*
Santa Barbara Bicycle Coalition

mobile: 805.699.6301
w: sbbike.org  e: edu at sbbike.org
<https://www.facebook.com/sbbikes/>  <https://www.instagram.com/sbbike.s/>


On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:32 AM Anibal Davila <caffenated at gmail.com> wrote:

> Weve gone through a few iterations of this. From a commercial
> bolted-to-the-pavement artillery piece of a hand pump, to a beater pump
> that only comes out on request during busy open hours.
>
> Our solution was to run a hose from our air compressor inside, put braided
> metal hose over everything but the last foot (this turned out to be
> completely unnecessary). We turn off the compressor every night in case
> someone cuts the hose to steal the chuck, that way we only lose a tank of
> air and the compressor does not run all night.
>
> We just finished refurbishing it for our covid closure. While the air
> chuck still craps out regularly, it's much cheaper and easier to replace a
> little $10 part than to replace a hand pump. Also, while no one has yet
> cut the line, we found that with a hose repair kit, you can just shorten
> the line each time the outdoor end gets damaged.
>
> If you look closely at the photo (sorry arnaud), you can see the braided
> armor hose. The hose clamps from the repair kit at the end of the red hose,
> and a bent spoke clip so that it can be hung back up (no one has ever hung
> it back up). A big part of the damage has been due to everything hanging at
> snow and salt spray ground level.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 11:46 AM Jeff Potter <jeff at outyourbackdoor.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a plan for a pump like this? And it?s less likely to be stolen?
>>
>> I?m wondering if our shop might be able to fill this need via ?beater
>> pumps.? We get a ton of stuff donated. Sometimes pumps. We could request
>> more pumps. Our shop has about 6 pumps in various states of usefulness.
>> Beater pumps seem to be the rule. So I wonder if a beater pump left outside
>> tied to the bike rack with a rope might do the trick. Would it be a hint
>> that locals would respect? Heck we resell donated pumps for $5. Maybe too
>> many street kids would rather steal than pay $5.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 11:15 AM, General Manager <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You guys are clever, from what I can tell, when I was visiting. No reason
>> why you all can't fabricate  a very sturdy pedal powered pump.  Angelo
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020, 3:09 AM BICAS ADMIN <bicas at bicas.org> wrote:
>>
>>> We just suspended all public services at BICAS in Tucson AZ today. :(
>>> Does anyone have a brilliant design for a pump that can be left outside
>>> that is less likely to get stolen/mangled??
>>>
>>> Sending best wishes out to all our community bikes buddies in these
>>> uncertain times.
>>>
>>> ~Carlyn
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jim Bledsoe <gamesbledsoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> here is a look at the 1918 'Spanish Flue'
>>> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:25 AM William Beasley <wm.a.beasley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeff-
>>>> Our shop is a mess, too, and we'd like to clean up and get ready for
>>>> Spring. But just to be clear -- as of late yesterday, Ohio has 5
>>>> _confirmed_ cases of COVID-19. That 100,000 figure is an estimate from the
>>>> Ohio Department of Health as to how many folks in Ohio might currently be
>>>> carrying the virus, based on statistically extrapolating a rate of
>>>> community spread. Yes, it's serious, and we need to be taking aggressive
>>>> steps, but keeping perspective is important.
>>>>
>>>> William Beasley
>>>> Elyria Bike Education Center
>>>>
>>>> ?On 3/13/20, 10:07 AM, "Thethinktank on behalf of Jeff Potter" <
>>>> thethinktank-bounces at lists.bikecollectives.org on behalf of
>>>> jeff at outyourbackdoor.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Thanks for the idea of leaving a pile of tubes and patches outside
>>>> the door!
>>>>
>>>>    I kinda like the idea of one worker in shop at a time.
>>>>
>>>>    Our shop is a mess and we want to prep for spring here in Michigan.
>>>>
>>>>    We?re still sorting out how to respond. Yes, possible to spread if
>>>> asymptomatic but very very unlikely? It spreads via cough/sneeze. If our
>>>> core gang of 3, say, shows up and nobody is symptomatic it seems like we
>>>> will be fine.
>>>>
>>>>    Ohio has 100k cases: high alert! MI has 2 cases known. Should MI be
>>>> in a diff mode than OH?
>>>>
>>>>    Or should we all go to ?stop all nonessential activity? mode to be
>>>> safe? Tubes outside the shop can be done regardless ? we have hundreds of
>>>> excess tubes!
>>>>
>>>>    We?re talking 3 at a time ? this is not a ?big group.? It?s still
>>>> doing social distancing but it?s not total isolation. We can use spray
>>>> bottle w bleach to zap stuff to start. Not get close.
>>>>
>>>>    ?Or should we do isolation? There are degrees in the isolation
>>>> mode. Weekly groceries are essential. Keeping grocery open is not total
>>>> isolation. Closing bike shop is not true isolation. So we?d stop all shop
>>>> activity if that?s best. I?m in favor of over-responding now to do all we
>>>> can to put the genie back in the bottle. Maybe for the next week or so?
>>>> Adjust LATER. Go harder on the front end...
>>>>
>>>>    Jeff Potter
>>>>    Lansing Bike Co-op
>>>>    Michigan
>>>>    ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>>    The ThinkTank mailing List
>>>>
>>>>    Unsubscribe from this list here:
>>>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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>>>>
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