[TheThinkTank] Rubbing alcohol substitutes, spraying grips with bleach, etc.

Fri Mar 20 23:17:37 PDT 2020

No problem! It's true we are in the midst of a great necessity for 
extreme measures.

~cyclista Nicholas

On 2020-03-21 06:12, Emily Summerhays wrote:
> I mean, he was pretty relentless at first. But my opinion is that the
> relentless will likely save us. Thank you for continuing to facilitate
> our conversation. It really means a lot more to me than I’d ever
> express had you not replied to me directly. Thank you, truly. Em
> 
> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:07 AM, Cyclista Nicholas 
> <cyclista at inventati.org> wrote:
>> 
>> no need to apologize for anything! I'm sorry if I made you feel that 
>> you did something wrong
>> 
>>> On 2020-03-21 06:00, Emily Summerhays wrote:
>>> I really didn’t mean to encourage him; I felt like his insights may
>>> have grown. I’m sorry if I made you feel I was being encouragable. Em
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Cyclista Nicholas 
>>>>> <cyclista at inventati.org> wrote:
>>>> Emily don't encourage him
>>>>> On 2020-03-21 05:38, Emily Summerhays wrote:
>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>> Last week you were very vocal about your opinion that all of us
>>>>> shutter down. Can you share your insights about how we can and 
>>>>> should
>>>>> continue to operate?
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Emily - Boise Bicycle Project
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2020, at 11:18 PM, Kevin Dwyer <kevidwyer at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, I agree it attacks some plastics, though it does come in a 
>>>>>> plastic bottle which seems to hold it well without deterioration 
>>>>>> for more than a year. Citrus should always be rinsed off with 
>>>>>> water and diluted for economy and protection of plastics (up to 
>>>>>> 10:1). Simple Green attacks metal and causes hydrogen 
>>>>>> embrittlement which can cause cracking and catastrophic failure. 
>>>>>> This is a known problem for chains soaked in Simple Green. I have 
>>>>>> also seen SG destroy bearing retainers. I've never had a problem 
>>>>>> in 12 years using citrus dilution on all kinds of bike parts and 
>>>>>> accessories, followed by rinsing with water.
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:59 PM General Manager 
>>>>>>> <3rdwardbikes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Citrus attacks plastics.
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 11:39 PM Kevin Dwyer <kevidwyer at gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You should contact your county health department with your 
>>>>>>>> questions, including inquiring about the shared use of helmets. 
>>>>>>>> Our group had questions regarding our operations and they were 
>>>>>>>> very helpful.
>>>>>>>> Citrus solvent, available by the gallon at Home Depot for about 
>>>>>>>> $8, can be diluted up to 25/75 while still making a great 
>>>>>>>> solvent. Don't use Simple Green.
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 9:56 PM Andrew Shaw-Kitch 
>>>>>>>>> <andrew at b4hpdx.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the lively conversation on how to ride the line 
>>>>>>>>> between serving our community and doing our part not to spread 
>>>>>>>>> covid-19. This is an unprecedented situation from all angles, 
>>>>>>>>> so it's nice to have this group of like-minded folks from all 
>>>>>>>>> over looking at things from this one.
>>>>>>>>> Here at Bikes for Humanity PDX we have postponed all classes, 
>>>>>>>>> in-person programs, and open hours. We are doing bike adoptions 
>>>>>>>>> on an appointment basis: (1) bikes are posted online for folks 
>>>>>>>>> to browse, folks referred to us from partner organizations 
>>>>>>>>> describe what they are looking for (2) a time is set 30 mins+ 
>>>>>>>>> away from another appointment, and the adopter is asked if 
>>>>>>>>> they'll need helmet, light, and/or lock. (3) We meet in the 
>>>>>>>>> parking lot behind our space with a couple bike options, and 
>>>>>>>>> any other items they might need. We feel this is a satisfactory 
>>>>>>>>> means toward meeting the needs of people trying to access bikes 
>>>>>>>>> as either a diversion or way to get to work, as well as our own 
>>>>>>>>> needs of revenue and the fulfillment of our mission.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have insight on how to maximize social distancing 
>>>>>>>>> and minimize shared contact of surfaces? I am also interested 
>>>>>>>>> from a mechanical perspective, what the effect of watered down 
>>>>>>>>> bleach is on grips, saddles, bar wrap. Since we only have so 
>>>>>>>>> much rubbing alcohol, and it won't be easier to acquire anytime 
>>>>>>>>> soon, we are looking for a way to ensure contact points are 
>>>>>>>>> sterilized going forward. Spray bleach-water on grips and wipe 
>>>>>>>>> with rag designated as the touch-points sanitizing rag?
>>>>>>>>> And since rubbing alcohol is now prioritized for non-bike 
>>>>>>>>> purposes, what is another means of cleaning bearing systems, 
>>>>>>>>> rims and disc rotors? I will be taking the crisis/opportunity 
>>>>>>>>> ("crisitunity" in the phrasing of Homer Simpson) of having the 
>>>>>>>>> doors closed to catch up refurbishment of the 100 bikes in our 
>>>>>>>>> basement...
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Andrew Shaw-Kitch (pronouns: he/him/his)
>>>>>>>>> Executive Director
>>>>>>>>> andrew at b4hpdx.org
>>>>>>>>> Our mission is to increase access to safe and affordable bikes 
>>>>>>>>> while empowering self-sufficiency in bike maintenance and 
>>>>>>>>> commuting.
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>>>>>>>> 801.647.0797
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