[TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 185, Issue 4

cyclista at inventati.org cyclista at inventati.org
Wed Mar 23 21:01:54 PDT 2022


Donna,

Yes, please do. The shipping need isn't immediate, FYI. Just hoping to 
be prepared next time accumulation inevitably happens.

Thank you!

~cyclista Nicholas


On 2022-03-24 02:08, Donna Price wrote:
> cyclista Nicholas
> 
>  Pedals for Progress looks like it is still filling shipping containers 
> and
> sending bikes abroad.
> 
> They are located in New Jersey and their website is: 
> *https://www.p4p.org/
> <https://www.p4p.org/>*
> 
> I haven't had any personal experience with them but am local to them 
> and
> can find out more if that is helpful.
> 
> Let me know if you need more info.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Donna
> 
> Donna Price
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 4:03 PM <
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>>    3. looking for current info on orgs that move/donate surplus
>>       bikes (cyclista at inventati.org)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org>
>> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:48:28 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wholesale account
>> Steve,  We are applying with JBI,  They are asking for  occupational
>> license for sale or repair of bicycles,   I don’t know what that 
>> license is?
>>  Business licenses, check.  Resale license, check. Insurance, Check….
>> Thanx for the feedback.
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 11:47 AM, Stephen Andruski <swandruski at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Until recently, the Rockville Bike Hub in Rockville Md has been 
>> operating
>> as a pop up shop with some storage from the City of Rockville. We were 
>> able
>> to get an account with JBI.
>> The big concern most distributors have is with community shops buying
>> stuff at wholesale and then selling stuff well below what
>> commercial shops are selling stuff at. That undercuts their other
>> customers. We only buy tools and consumable parts and almost all parts 
>> are
>> for
>> fixing bikes, not direct sale to our customers. We will sell things on
>> occasion, but we make sure we are charging what commercial shops are
>> charging.
>> We also want to maintain good relations with the commercial shops in 
>> our
>> area because the donate bikes to us.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Steve Andruski
>> RBH President
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:38 PM BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> We operate a small community bike shop out of a shipping container.  
>>> We
>>> would like to get a wholesale account to buy parts.  Since we do not 
>>> have a
>>> showroom and don’t fit the norm for a bike shop, it is difficult. Any
>>> suggestions.
>>> 
>>> One of the wholesalers is asking for a occupational license for sale 
>>> or
>>> repair of bicycles. What the heck is dat. I think it is a DMV 
>>> License.
>>> Thanks for any help y’all can provide.
>>> 
>>> Best regards and Happy pedaling!
>>> “Smitty”    (S. M. Ardrey)
>>> Community Outreach & Bike Kitchen Coordinator
>>> a.k.a. The Instigator     [image: image1.png]
>>> BikeConcord.org <https://bikeconcord.wordpress.com/>    Facebook:
>>> BikeConcord <https://www.facebook.com/groups/bikeconcord/>
>>> Bike Concord's nonprofit 501(c) 3 sponsor is Bike East Bay
>>> BikeEastBay.org <https://bikeeastbay.org/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> From: BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org>
>> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:50:42 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wholesale account
>> Thanks Greg, if JBI doesn’t work out, we will give midway and cyclone 
>> a
>> shot.
>> Smitty
>> Bike Concord
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Gregory Ferguson <gregferg2 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Smitty
>> 
>> We have had a good relationship with Midway Bicycle supply in St. 
>> Paul, MN
>> for some time
>> https://midwaybike.com/
>> 
>> Also cyclone
>> http://www.cyclonebicycle.com/
>> 
>> The wholesalers want you to have a storefront to make sure you aren’t 
>> just
>> buying stuff to sell on eBay.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Greg
>> Brookhaven Bike Co-op
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:38 PM, BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> We operate a small community bike shop out of a shipping container.  
>> We
>> would like to get a wholesale account to buy parts.  Since we do not 
>> have a
>> showroom and don’t fit the norm for a bike shop, it is difficult. Any
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> One of the wholesalers is asking for a occupational license for sale 
>> or
>> repair of bicycles. What the heck is dat. I think it is a DMV License.
>> Thanks for any help y’all can provide.
>> 
>> Best regards and Happy pedaling!
>> “Smitty”    (S. M. Ardrey)
>> Community Outreach & Bike Kitchen Coordinator
>> a.k.a. The Instigator     <image1.png>
>> BikeConcord.org <https://bikeconcord.wordpress.com/>    Facebook:
>> BikeConcord <https://www.facebook.com/groups/bikeconcord/>
>> Bike Concord's nonprofit 501(c) 3 sponsor is Bike East Bay
>> BikeEastBay.org <https://bikeeastbay.org/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <IMG_2829.jpg>
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: cyclista at inventati.org
>> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:55:12 +0000
>> Subject: [TheThinkTank] looking for current info on orgs that 
>> move/donate
>> surplus bikes
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Back in the day at RIBs we used to periodically ship excess bikes we 
>> had
>> to Ghana. I don't remember anymore what the entity that did the 
>> shipping
>> and organization for that was, only that last time I checked five or 
>> so
>> years ago, they had long since ceased operation. I even contacted one 
>> of
>> the organizers directly and they had no connections to share or 
>> interest
>> in resurrecting their past project. It was a total dead end, and I 
>> never
>> had the extra bandwidth to create a new effort on my own or
>> deepen/broaden my search.
>> 
>> So what I'm hoping to hear from people is whether they know of, and 
>> have
>> contact info for, any current entities doing this kind of work. 
>> Loading
>> up shipping containers or tractor trailers with bikes and shipping 
>> them
>> off to places in the world with both a shortage *and* a capacity to 
>> fix
>> them.
>> 
>> One thing I heard from people when I was doing the rounds last time 
>> was
>> that some of the entities that took the bikes either sold them for
>> scrap, or dumped them off without knowing what was done with them 
>> after
>> delivery, which ultimately turned out to be to sell them for scrap. 
>> The
>> obvious worst case scenario for such an effort. So I'm also hoping to
>> hear about any vetting that has been done, or firsthand experience 
>> with
>> the downstream of such a project.
>> 
>> Thanks for any leads or info, cyclistas!
>> 
>> Hope y'all are doing well,
>> 
>> ~cyclista Nicholas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> To: "thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org" <
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>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 13:29:29 +0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 185, Issue 3
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>> 
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>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 04:04:22 PM EDT,
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>>   1. Wholesale account (BikeConcord)
>>   2. Re: Wholesale account (Stephen Andruski)
>>   3. Re: Wholesale account (Gregory Ferguson)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:38:02 -0700
>> From: BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org>
>> To: thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org
>> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Wholesale account
>> Message-ID: <41896CE1-B9DB-485B-BEB9-A3B957DEB658 at bikeconcord.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> ?
>> Hello everyone,
>> We operate a small community bike shop out of a shipping container.  
>> We
>> would like to get a wholesale account to buy parts.  Since we do not 
>> have a
>> showroom and don?t fit the norm for a bike shop, it is difficult. Any
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> One of the wholesalers is asking for a occupational license for sale 
>> or
>> repair of bicycles. What the heck is dat. I think it is a DMV License.
>> Thanks for any help y?all can provide.
>> ?
>> Best regards and Happy pedaling!
>> ?Smitty?    (S. M. Ardrey)
>> Community Outreach & Bike Kitchen Coordinator
>> a.k.a. The Instigator
>> BikeConcord.org    Facebook: BikeConcord
>> Bike Concord's nonprofit 501(c) 3 sponsor is Bike East Bay
>> BikeEastBay.org
>> ??
>> 
>> 
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>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:46:28 -0400
>> From: Stephen Andruski <swandruski at gmail.com>
>> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wholesale account
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> Until recently, the Rockville Bike Hub in Rockville Md has been 
>> operating
>> as a pop up shop with some storage from the City of Rockville. We were 
>> able
>> to get an account with JBI.
>> The big concern most distributors have is with community shops buying 
>> stuff
>> at wholesale and then selling stuff well below what
>> commercial shops are selling stuff at. That undercuts their other
>> customers. We only buy tools and consumable parts and almost all parts 
>> are
>> for
>> fixing bikes, not direct sale to our customers. We will sell things on
>> occasion, but we make sure we are charging what commercial shops are
>> charging.
>> We also want to maintain good relations with the commercial shops in 
>> our
>> area because the donate bikes to us.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Steve Andruski
>> RBH President
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 2:38 PM BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > ?
>> > Hello everyone,
>> > We operate a small community bike shop out of a shipping container.  We
>> > would like to get a wholesale account to buy parts.  Since we do not
>> have a
>> > showroom and don?t fit the norm for a bike shop, it is difficult. Any
>> > suggestions.
>> >
>> > One of the wholesalers is asking for a occupational license for sale or
>> > repair of bicycles. What the heck is dat. I think it is a DMV License.
>> > Thanks for any help y?all can provide.
>> > ?
>> > Best regards and Happy pedaling!
>> > ?Smitty?    (S. M. Ardrey)
>> > Community Outreach & Bike Kitchen Coordinator
>> > a.k.a. The Instigator    [image: image1.png]
>> > BikeConcord.org <https://bikeconcord.wordpress.com/>    Facebook:
>> > BikeConcord <https://www.facebook.com/groups/bikeconcord/>
>> > Bike Concord's nonprofit 501(c) 3 sponsor is Bike East Bay
>> > BikeEastBay.org <https://bikeeastbay.org/>
>> > ??
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:48:19 -0400
>> From: Gregory Ferguson <gregferg2 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Think Tank <thethinktank at lists.bikecollectives.org>
>> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Wholesale account
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>> 
>> Hi Smitty
>> 
>> We have had a good relationship with Midway Bicycle supply in St. 
>> Paul, MN
>> for some time
>> https://midwaybike.com/
>> 
>> Also cyclone
>> http://www.cyclonebicycle.com/
>> 
>> The wholesalers want you to have a storefront to make sure you aren?t 
>> just
>> buying stuff to sell on eBay.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Greg
>> Brookhaven Bike Co-op
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:38 PM, BikeConcord <Smitty at bikeconcord.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hello everyone,
>> We operate a small community bike shop out of a shipping container.  
>> We
>> would like to get a wholesale account to buy parts.  Since we do not 
>> have a
>> showroom and don?t fit the norm for a bike shop, it is difficult. Any
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> One of the wholesalers is asking for a occupational license for sale 
>> or
>> repair of bicycles. What the heck is dat. I think it is a DMV License.
>> Thanks for any help y?all can provide.
>> ?
>> Best regards and Happy pedaling!
>> ?Smitty?    (S. M. Ardrey)
>> Community Outreach & Bike Kitchen Coordinator
>> a.k.a. The Instigator    <image1.png>
>> BikeConcord.org <https://bikeconcord.wordpress.com/>    Facebook:
>> BikeConcord <https://www.facebook.com/groups/bikeconcord/>
>> Bike Concord's nonprofit 501(c) 3 sponsor is Bike East Bay
>> BikeEastBay.org <https://bikeeastbay.org/>
>> ??
>> 
>> 
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>> Having run a community shop in a couple of locations, a storefront is 
>> what
>> most distributors require.
>> J and B is our go-to source, with quick delivery, (IF they have what 
>> we
>> want).  They up their flat-rate shipping minimum from $300 to $400
>> recently, and $500 to $600 for free freight.  Orders below $400
>> can carry prohibitive shipping costs at times.  We've been forced to 
>> go to
>> Amazon for some item that are always out of stock.
>> 
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