From ariel.climer@gmail.com Tue Feb 9 11:11:22 2016 From: Ariel C To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] London's strategies? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 11:11:18 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1065222171434397243==" --===============1065222171434397243== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles than cars coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They cut their car entry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone from there who could comment more or send more articles? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 -Ariel --===============1065222171434397243== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 SGkgRXZlcnlvbmUsPGRpdj5JIHJlY2VudGx5IHNhdyB0aGlzIGFydGljbGUtIExvbmRvbiBpcyBz ZXQgdG8gaGF2ZSBtb3JlIGJpY3ljbGVzIHRoYW4gY2FycyBjb21pbmcgaW50byB0aGUgY2l0eSBh dCBydXNoIGhvdXIgaW4gdGhlIG5leHQgZmV3IHllYXJzLiBUaGV5IGN1dCB0aGVpciBjYXIgZW50 cnkgYnkgaGFsZiBpbiAxNSB5ZWFycyEgV2hhdCBzdHJhdGVnaWVzIGRpZCB0aGV5IHVzZT8gQW55 b25lIGZyb20gdGhlcmUgd2hvIGNvdWxkIGNvbW1lbnQgbW9yZcKgb3Igc2VuZCBtb3JlwqBhcnRp Y2xlcz88c3Bhbj48L3NwYW4+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj48YSBocmVmPSJodHRw Oi8vd3d3LmJiYy5jb20vbmV3cy91ay1lbmdsYW5kLWxvbmRvbi0zNTQ3NTMxOCI+aHR0cDovL3d3 dy5iYmMuY29tL25ld3MvdWstZW5nbGFuZC1sb25kb24tMzU0NzUzMTg8L2E+PGJyPjwvZGl2Pjxk aXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+LUFyaWVsPC9kaXY+Cg== --===============1065222171434397243==-- From gdaf@tiac.net Tue Feb 9 11:30:39 2016 From: Gwyndaf Jones To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] London's strategies? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 14:30:38 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2086328380052767858==" --===============2086328380052767858== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ariel, This is a good source for UK bike scene info: http://www.theguardian.com/envi= ronment/bike-blog Also, some years ago there started to be a surcharge on vehicles driving into= central London each day. I'm not sure of it's current status though. Gwyn On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ariel C wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles than cars = coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They cut their car e= ntry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone from there who= could comment more or send more articles? >=20 > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 >=20 > -Ariel > ____________________________________ >=20 > The ThinkTank mailing List > Unsubscribe from this list >=20 --===============2086328380052767858== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PC9oZWFkPjxib2R5IHN0eWxlPSJ3b3JkLXdyYXA6IGJyZWFrLXdvcmQ7IC13 ZWJraXQtbmJzcC1tb2RlOiBzcGFjZTsgLXdlYmtpdC1saW5lLWJyZWFrOiBhZnRlci13aGl0ZS1z cGFjZTsgIj5IaSBBcmllbCw8ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PlRoaXMgaXMgYSBnb29kIHNvdXJj ZSBmb3IgVUsgYmlrZSBzY2VuZSBpbmZvOiZuYnNwOzxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cudGhlZ3Vh cmRpYW4uY29tL2Vudmlyb25tZW50L2Jpa2UtYmxvZyI+aHR0cDovL3d3dy50aGVndWFyZGlhbi5j b20vZW52aXJvbm1lbnQvYmlrZS1ibG9nPC9hPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+QWxz bywgc29tZSB5ZWFycyBhZ28gdGhlcmUgc3RhcnRlZCB0byBiZSBhIHN1cmNoYXJnZSBvbiB2ZWhp Y2xlcyBkcml2aW5nIGludG8gY2VudHJhbCBMb25kb24gZWFjaCBkYXkuICZuYnNwO0knbSBub3Qg c3VyZSBvZiBpdCdzIGN1cnJlbnQgc3RhdHVzIHRob3VnaC48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48 ZGl2Pkd3eW48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48ZGl2PjxkaXY+T24gRmViIDksIDIwMTYsIGF0IDI6MTEg UE0sIEFyaWVsIEMgd3JvdGU6PC9kaXY+PGJyIGNsYXNzPSJBcHBsZS1pbnRlcmNoYW5nZS1uZXds aW5lIj48YmxvY2txdW90ZSB0eXBlPSJjaXRlIj5IaSBFdmVyeW9uZSw8ZGl2PkkgcmVjZW50bHkg c2F3IHRoaXMgYXJ0aWNsZS0gTG9uZG9uIGlzIHNldCB0byBoYXZlIG1vcmUgYmljeWNsZXMgdGhh biBjYXJzIGNvbWluZyBpbnRvIHRoZSBjaXR5IGF0IHJ1c2ggaG91ciBpbiB0aGUgbmV4dCBmZXcg eWVhcnMuIFRoZXkgY3V0IHRoZWlyIGNhciBlbnRyeSBieSBoYWxmIGluIDE1IHllYXJzISBXaGF0 IHN0cmF0ZWdpZXMgZGlkIHRoZXkgdXNlPyBBbnlvbmUgZnJvbSB0aGVyZSB3aG8gY291bGQgY29t bWVudCBtb3JlJm5ic3A7b3Igc2VuZCBtb3JlJm5ic3A7YXJ0aWNsZXM/PHNwYW4+PC9zcGFuPjwv ZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY29tL25ld3Mv dWstZW5nbGFuZC1sb25kb24tMzU0NzUzMTgiPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYmJjLmNvbS9uZXdzL3VrLWVu Z2xhbmQtbG9uZG9uLTM1NDc1MzE4PC9hPjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pi1B cmllbDwvZGl2PgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX188YnI+PGJyPlRo ZSBUaGlua1RhbmsgbWFpbGluZyBMaXN0PGJyPiZsdDthIGhyZWY9IjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly9s aXN0cy5iaWtlY29sbGVjdGl2ZXMub3JnL29wdGlvbnMuY2dpL3RoZXRoaW5rdGFuay1iaWtlY29s bGVjdGl2ZXMub3JnIj5odHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuYmlrZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVzLm9yZy9vcHRpb25zLmNn aS90aGV0aGlua3RhbmstYmlrZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVzLm9yZzwvYT4iJmd0O1Vuc3Vic2NyaWJlIGZy b20gdGhpcyBsaXN0Jmx0Oy9hJmd0Ozxicj48YnI+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rp dj48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== --===============2086328380052767858==-- From oneillkza@gmail.com Tue Feb 9 12:01:13 2016 From: Kieran O'Neill To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] London's strategies? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:01:11 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2459614177579935139==" --===============2459614177579935139== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The congestion charge played a big part in it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_congestion_charge That came in in 2003, so their 15-year timescale is almost certainly meant to correspond with that. The fact that their (conservative and right-wing) mayor is very pro-bike and dedicated a billion pounds to cycling infrastructure has likely helped too. http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-of-London-to-Invest-1= -Billion-in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.html It's nice when bike infrastructure is just considered to be a good thing by politicians, and not a right-wing wedge issue. It's also worth noting that London did most of its growing as a city before automobiles, so the streets are pretty narrow and car-unfriendly (a good thing in my opinion). On 9 February 2016 at 11:30, Gwyndaf Jones wrote: > Hi Ariel, > > This is a good source for UK bike scene info: > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog > > Also, some years ago there started to be a surcharge on vehicles driving > into central London each day. I'm not sure of it's current status though. > > Gwyn > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ariel C wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles than cars > coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They cut their car > entry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone from there > who could comment more or send more articles? > > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 > > -Ariel > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecolle= ctives.org">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecolle= ctives.org">Unsubscribe > from this list > > --===============2459614177579935139==-- From aniola@gmail.com Tue Feb 9 20:56:14 2016 From: Angel York To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] London's strategies? Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:55:33 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6461299204394929216==" --===============6461299204394929216== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kieran's post inspired me, so I kept reading, and eventually found this: http://bikeportland.org/2015/02/25/six-reasons-london-going-big-biking-portla= nd-follow-134947 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Kieran O'Neill wrote: > The congestion charge played a big part in it: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_congestion_charge That came in in > 2003, so their 15-year timescale is almost certainly meant to > correspond with that. > > The fact that their (conservative and right-wing) mayor is very > pro-bike and dedicated a billion pounds to cycling infrastructure has > likely helped too. > > http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-of-London-to-Invest= -1-Billion-in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.html > > It's nice when bike infrastructure is just considered to be a good > thing by politicians, and not a right-wing wedge issue. > > It's also worth noting that London did most of its growing as a city > before automobiles, so the streets are pretty narrow and > car-unfriendly (a good thing in my opinion). > > On 9 February 2016 at 11:30, Gwyndaf Jones wrote: > > Hi Ariel, > > > > This is a good source for UK bike scene info: > > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog > > > > Also, some years ago there started to be a surcharge on vehicles driving > > into central London each day. I'm not sure of it's current status > though. > > > > Gwyn > > > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ariel C wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles than > cars > > coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They cut their > car > > entry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone from > there > > who could comment more or send more articles? > > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 > > > > -Ariel > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > href=3D" > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg > ">Unsubscribe > > from this list > > > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > href=3D" > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg > ">Unsubscribe > > from this list > > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > --===============6461299204394929216== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:23:43 +0000 Message-ID: <56BB0FAF.5050105@bsbcoop.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6625135341216294793==" --===============6625135341216294793== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's also a really effective, active, 11,000-member cycle campaigning=20 organisation in London, the LCC:=20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Cycling_Campaign & http://lcc.org.uk/ They campaign on loads of cycling-issues, and work with the city=20 admistrators at various levels. Johnny Fill Mechanical Administrator Broken Spoke Bike Co-op www.bsbcoop.org -- On 10/02/2016 04:55, Angel York wrote: > Kieran's post inspired me, so I kept reading, and eventually found=20 > this:=20 > http://bikeportland.org/2015/02/25/six-reasons-london-going-big-biking-port= land-follow-134947 > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Kieran O'Neill > wrote: > > The congestion charge played a big part in it: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_congestion_charge That came in in > 2003, so their 15-year timescale is almost certainly meant to > correspond with that. > > The fact that their (conservative and right-wing) mayor is very > pro-bike and dedicated a billion pounds to cycling infrastructure has > likely helped too. > http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-of-London-to-In= vest-1-Billion-in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.html > > It's nice when bike infrastructure is just considered to be a good > thing by politicians, and not a right-wing wedge issue. > > It's also worth noting that London did most of its growing as a city > before automobiles, so the streets are pretty narrow and > car-unfriendly (a good thing in my opinion). > > On 9 February 2016 at 11:30, Gwyndaf Jones > wrote: > > Hi Ariel, > > > > This is a good source for UK bike scene info: > > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog > > > > Also, some years ago there started to be a surcharge on vehicles > driving > > into central London each day. I'm not sure of it's current > status though. > > > > Gwyn > > > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ariel C wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles > than cars > > coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They > cut their car > > entry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone > from there > > who could comment more or send more articles? > > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 > > > > -Ariel > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikec= ollectives.org">Unsubscribe > > from this list > > > > > > > > ____________________________________ > > > > The ThinkTank mailing List > > > > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikec= ollectives.org">Unsubscribe > > from this list > > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikec= ollectives.org">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > Unsubscribe from this list > --===============6625135341216294793== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Ym9keT4KPC9odG1sPgo= --===============6625135341216294793==-- From oneillkza@gmail.com Wed Feb 10 21:38:53 2016 From: Kieran O'Neill To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] London's strategies? Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:38:51 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <56BB0FAF.5050105@bsbcoop.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8161784114858819457==" --===============8161784114858819457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another interesting thing about London is that, in a slightly horrifying show of neoliberalism, Boris got Barclays Bank to sponsor (corporate branded) bike lanes. http://www.bikeforums.net/commuting/691336-corporate-sponsorship-bike-lanes.h= tml They're not exactly very good bike lanes, though. On 10 February 2016 at 02:23, Johnny Fill wrote: > There's also a really effective, active, 11,000-member cycle campaigning > organisation in London, the LCC: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Cycling_Campaign & http://lcc.org.uk/ > > They campaign on loads of cycling-issues, and work with the city > admistrators at various levels. > > Johnny Fill > Mechanical Administrator > Broken Spoke Bike Co-op > www.bsbcoop.org > -- > > On 10/02/2016 04:55, Angel York wrote: > > Kieran's post inspired me, so I kept reading, and eventually found this: > http://bikeportland.org/2015/02/25/six-reasons-london-going-big-biking-port= land-follow-134947 > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Kieran O'Neill wro= te: >> >> The congestion charge played a big part in it: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_congestion_charge That came in in >> 2003, so their 15-year timescale is almost certainly meant to >> correspond with that. >> >> The fact that their (conservative and right-wing) mayor is very >> pro-bike and dedicated a billion pounds to cycling infrastructure has >> likely helped too. >> >> http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-of-London-to-Inves= t-1-Billion-in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.html >> >> It's nice when bike infrastructure is just considered to be a good >> thing by politicians, and not a right-wing wedge issue. >> >> It's also worth noting that London did most of its growing as a city >> before automobiles, so the streets are pretty narrow and >> car-unfriendly (a good thing in my opinion). >> >> On 9 February 2016 at 11:30, Gwyndaf Jones wrote: >> > Hi Ariel, >> > >> > This is a good source for UK bike scene info: >> > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog >> > >> > Also, some years ago there started to be a surcharge on vehicles driving >> > into central London each day. I'm not sure of it's current status >> > though. >> > >> > Gwyn >> > >> > On Feb 9, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Ariel C wrote: >> > >> > Hi Everyone, >> > I recently saw this article- London is set to have more bicycles than >> > cars >> > coming into the city at rush hour in the next few years. They cut their >> > car >> > entry by half in 15 years! What strategies did they use? Anyone from >> > there >> > who could comment more or send more articles? >> > >> > http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35475318 >> > >> > -Ariel >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > > > >> > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikeco= llectives.org">Unsubscribe >> > from this list >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________ >> > >> > The ThinkTank mailing List >> > > > >> > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikeco= llectives.org">Unsubscribe >> > from this list >> > >> > >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecoll= ectives.org">Unsubscribe >> from this list >> > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecolle= ctives.org">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecolle= ctives.org">Unsubscribe > from this list > > --===============8161784114858819457==--