From taylor@neighborhoodbikeworks.org Fri Apr 17 15:43:22 2015
From: Taylor Kuyk-White <taylor@neighborhoodbikeworks.org>
To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
Subject: [TheThinkTank] Advanced Repair Classes for Adults?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:42:42 -0400
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Hey Folks,

Here at Neighborhood Bike Works <http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/> we have
had a surge of interest in our Adult Repair Classes
<http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/programs/adult-bike-repair-classes/> and
are considering expanding our offerings in this realm in response.

Our current system consists of 4 consecutive 2.5 hour Monday night classes.
We cover Flat Fixing,  Brake Adjustment and repair, Bearing Adjustment and
Repair, and Drive Train Adjustment and Repair for $80. It is taught by
either our Board President or our Lead Mechanic, with an alternating Youth
Assistant.

*Does anyone have 2 tiers of classes, or an advanced class they offer adult
participants?* If so, what do you cover? Who teaches (Staff, Volunteer,
Board, Youth)? Do you have established curriculum you could share?

Thanks in advance for information you can share!
--=20
Taylor Kuyk-White
Youth Bike Education & Empowerment Program Coordinator
taylor(a)neighborhoodbikeworks.org
(215)386-0316



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From danceswithcars@gmail.com Fri Apr 17 16:18:33 2015
From: DancesWithCars <danceswithcars@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Advanced Repair Classes for Adults?
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:18:20 -0400
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I've been thru a few, depends if you do a fast, see everything, then do lab
during open shop time on your own bike (excepting bb, hub, head) or expect
hands on during those 2.5 hour segments.

Youth present and helping and/or teaching may be good depending if you are
a youth program and/or your demographic.  Father son days?  Mom daughter
pairs?  Female teachers for same?  And/or safe space issues?

Handouts?  Video preview/review for those falling asleep in evening class?

Different languages version(s).

Fixie messengers welcome?  Got to pay me to ride?
Or fun shop?  Bike Hospital for toddler/ kidical mass set?

Free come back see it enough times to teach it?  Or accessible review?
Paid staff or AVO?


~~~~~~~~~~~
typing impaired by device, so phlat.
NB: BigBro monitors all, dude[tte]....
BackusNaurForm forgotten.
Lied to re: Del msgs.  MailHoardersAnon*
On Apr 17, 2015 11:43, "Taylor Kuyk-White" <taylor(a)neighborhoodbikeworks.or=
g>
wrote:

> Hey Folks,
>
> Here at Neighborhood Bike Works <http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/> we
> have had a surge of interest in our Adult Repair Classes
> <http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/programs/adult-bike-repair-classes/> and
> are considering expanding our offerings in this realm in response.
>
> Our current system consists of 4 consecutive 2.5 hour Monday night
> classes. We cover Flat Fixing,  Brake Adjustment and repair, Bearing
> Adjustment and Repair, and Drive Train Adjustment and Repair for $80. It is
> taught by either our Board President or our Lead Mechanic, with an
> alternating Youth Assistant.
>
> *Does anyone have 2 tiers of classes, or an advanced class they offer
> adult participants?* If so, what do you cover? Who teaches (Staff,
> Volunteer, Board, Youth)? Do you have established curriculum you could
> share?
>
> Thanks in advance for information you can share!
> --
> Taylor Kuyk-White
> Youth Bike Education & Empowerment Program Coordinator
> taylor(a)neighborhoodbikeworks.org
> (215)386-0316
>
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From ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org Mon Apr 27 17:13:17 2015
From: Ron Kellis <ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org>
To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Advanced Repair Classes for Adults?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:13:02 -0400
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As Dances, the first decision is all show and tell, part show and tell and
part hands on, or all hands's on.  I use the part hands on, part show and
tell split my very quick class, 3 hrs. Sounds like you are doing 100% hands
on.

One approach is to consider is how a commercial shop tends to break out
work as, I assume, people are taking the class so they can do what a shop
would do.

Basic - Tune and repair as necessary without component disassembly.
Advanced - Overhaul and replace as necessary; BB, wheel hubs, headset, &
gear sets.

This is how we do basic/advanced. Other than gear sets and chains, given
the time required to teach overhaul and the general lack of response to
class offerings, I suggest people set aside most of their Saturday, bring
their bike to the coop, and do their bike with volunteer instruction.

I'd also suggest minor wheel tuning with brake repair, especially with
direct-pull/linear-pull/Vee brakes. In my experience the lower quality
groups require spot on adherence to specifications which usually requires a
pretty true wheel.

Wheel repair/building tends to be an additional subject.

When I was doing some research to see if our model could be improved, I
came across Jake's Bike Shop's services. I think it serves as a good
general outline of basic through advanced skills; Classic Tune-up, Deluxe
Tune-up, Supreme Tune-up. They have pdf for each. And his A la Carte list
is a good list of skills/tasks to be considered for including in a class.

http://www.jakesbikes.com/bikes/maintenance-and-repairs/default.aspx

Ron



On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:18 PM, DancesWithCars <danceswithcars(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've been thru a few, depends if you do a fast, see everything, then do
> lab during open shop time on your own bike (excepting bb, hub, head) or
> expect hands on during those 2.5 hour segments.
>
> Youth present and helping and/or teaching may be good depending if you are
> a youth program and/or your demographic.  Father son days?  Mom daughter
> pairs?  Female teachers for same?  And/or safe space issues?
>
> Handouts?  Video preview/review for those falling asleep in evening class?
>
> Different languages version(s).
>
> Fixie messengers welcome?  Got to pay me to ride?
> Or fun shop?  Bike Hospital for toddler/ kidical mass set?
>
> Free come back see it enough times to teach it?  Or accessible review?
> Paid staff or AVO?
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> typing impaired by device, so phlat.
> NB: BigBro monitors all, dude[tte]....
> BackusNaurForm forgotten.
> Lied to re: Del msgs.  MailHoardersAnon*
> On Apr 17, 2015 11:43, "Taylor Kuyk-White" <
> taylor(a)neighborhoodbikeworks.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Folks,
>>
>> Here at Neighborhood Bike Works <http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/> we
>> have had a surge of interest in our Adult Repair Classes
>> <http://neighborhoodbikeworks.org/programs/adult-bike-repair-classes/> and
>> are considering expanding our offerings in this realm in response.
>>
>> Our current system consists of 4 consecutive 2.5 hour Monday night
>> classes. We cover Flat Fixing,  Brake Adjustment and repair, Bearing
>> Adjustment and Repair, and Drive Train Adjustment and Repair for $80. It is
>> taught by either our Board President or our Lead Mechanic, with an
>> alternating Youth Assistant.
>>
>> *Does anyone have 2 tiers of classes, or an advanced class they offer
>> adult participants?* If so, what do you cover? Who teaches (Staff,
>> Volunteer, Board, Youth)? Do you have established curriculum you could
>> share?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for information you can share!
>> --
>> Taylor Kuyk-White
>> Youth Bike Education & Empowerment Program Coordinator
>> taylor(a)neighborhoodbikeworks.org
>> (215)386-0316
>>
>> ____________________________________
>>
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