From rnonnekes@gmail.com Thu Aug 7 05:25:09 2014 From: Rick Nonnekes To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5082835674896029287==" --===============5082835674896029287== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can get it appraised for value? Cycle Transitions, Cobourg Ontario, Canada --===============5082835674896029287== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+PGRpdj48ZGl2PldlIHJlY2VudGx5IGhhZCBhIGxhZHkgYnJpbmcgaW4g YSBiaWtlIGZvciBkb25hdGlvbi7CoCBJdCBpcyBhbiBlYXJseSAxOTgwJiMzOTtzIFJvc3NpIENv bHVtYmlhLCBjdXN0b20gbWFkZSBmb3IgaGVyLiBTaGUmIzM5O3MgYWRhbWFudCB0aGF0IGl0IGlz IHBsYXRlZCB3aXRoIDI0ayBnb2xkIC0gbG9va3MgbGlrZSBpdCB0b28gKGFsdGhvdWdoIHdlJiMz OTtyZSBzcGVjdWxhdGluZyBvbiBnb2xkIGNvbG91cmVkIGNocm9tZSkuwqAgSXQmIzM5O3MgaW4g Z29vZCBjb25kaXRpb24uwqAgQ2FuIGFueW9uZSBzdWdnZXN0IGhvdyB3ZSBjYW4gZ2V0IGl0IGFw cHJhaXNlZCBmb3IgdmFsdWU/PGJyPgo8YnI+PC9kaXY+Q3ljbGUgVHJhbnNpdGlvbnMsPGJyPjwv ZGl2PkNvYm91cmcgT250YXJpbywgQ2FuYWRhPGJyPjwvZGl2Pgo= --===============5082835674896029287==-- From kevidwyer@gmail.com Thu Aug 7 07:45:50 2014 From: Kevin Dwyer To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:45:50 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1179749664857169844==" --===============1179749664857169844== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable eBay is the most reliable barometer of the market. Because comparables are going to be difficult (search completed auctions-must have eBay account), try to find a similar vintage handmade (ciocc, tomasini, masi?) and component groupo and add a small premium for gold. I remember those coming in chrome, so I'd bet that it is gold tinted chrome. We try to be fair but generous in valuation of donated items. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early > 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated > with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold > coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can > get it appraised for value? > > Cycle Transitions, > Cobourg Ontario, Canada > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > --=20 Kevin Dwyer The Bicycle Collective IMPORTANT: This communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and/or protected by the attorney-client or other applicable privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you are not responsible for delivering this communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that the disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by telephone at (801) 647-0797, and return the original message to me at the above address via email. 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One factor to consider with custom: If this person had odd proportions, that might drastically de-value the bike. We had a sweet custom Jett that we started at $800, but quickly realized it was a small frame with an extremely long top-tube (50cm st by 56cm tt), and without clearances for fenders and wider tires that would make it decent candidate for upright bars. It ended up selling, months later, for $350. Davey On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early > 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated > with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold > coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can > get it appraised for value? > > Cycle Transitions, > Cobourg Ontario, Canada > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > --=20 David Eyer Davis Executive Director Bicycle Collective c: 801-230-6308 www.bicyclecollective.org The mission of the Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. 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She should get it appraised herself. With the special condition, it may be more difficult. Maybe an antique dealer would be a good bet. sheldon .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect www.SpokesConnect.org www.fb.com/SpokesConnect Minneapolis, MN 612/618-7149 Three ways to donate to SPOKES: 1. Volunteer. 2. Donate repairable used bikes. 3. Financial donations always welcome. Check www.SpokesConnect.org for details. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early > 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated > with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold > coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can > get it appraised for value? > > Cycle Transitions, > Cobourg Ontario, Canada > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > --===============5773563802413606688== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+VGhlIElSUyByZWFsbHkgZnJvd25zIG9uIHRoZSByZWNpcGllbnQgb2Yg ZG9uYXRlZCBnb29kcyBwcm92aWRpbmcgYSB2YWx1ZS4gU2hlIHNob3VsZCBnZXQgaXQgYXBwcmFp c2VkIGhlcnNlbGYuIMKgV2l0aCB0aGUgc3BlY2lhbCBjb25kaXRpb24sIGl0IG1heSBiZSBtb3Jl IGRpZmZpY3VsdC4gTWF5YmUgYW4gYW50aXF1ZSBkZWFsZXIgd291bGQgYmUgYSBnb29kIGJldC48 ZGl2Pgo8YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdj5zaGVsZG9uPC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxf ZXh0cmEiPjxiciBjbGVhcj0iYWxsIj48ZGl2PjxkaXYgZGlyPSJsdHIiPi4uLi4uLi4uLi4uLi4u PGRpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPlNoZWxk b24gTWFpbnM8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21h bGwiPgpTUE9LRVMgQmlrZSBXYWxrIENvbm5lY3Q8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWls eTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPjxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuU3Bva2VzQ29ubmVj dC5vcmciIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj53d3cuU3Bva2VzQ29ubmVjdC5vcmc8L2E+wqDCoDxhIGhy ZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmIuY29tL1Nwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3QiIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj53d3cu ZmIuY29tL1Nwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Q8L2E+PC9kaXY+CjxkaXYgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OmFy aWFsO2ZvbnQtc2l6ZTpzbWFsbCI+TWlubmVhcG9saXMsIE1OwqA2MTIvNjE4LTcxNDk8L2Rpdj48 ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPlRocmVlIHdheXMg dG8gZG9uYXRlIHRvIFNQT0tFUzo8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtm b250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPjEuIFZvbHVudGVlci4gwqAyLiBEb25hdGUgcmVwYWlyYWJsZSB1c2Vk IGJpa2VzLiAzLiBGaW5hbmNpYWwgZG9uYXRpb25zIGFsd2F5cyB3ZWxjb21lLiBDaGVjayA8YSBo cmVmPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LlNwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Qub3JnIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+d3d3LlNw b2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Qub3JnPC9hPiBmb3IgZGV0YWlscy48L2Rpdj4KPC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+ Cjxicj48YnI+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfcXVvdGUiPk9uIFRodSwgQXVnIDcsIDIwMTQgYXQg NzoyNSBBTSwgUmljayBOb25uZWtlcyA8c3BhbiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+Jmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0 bzpybm9ubmVrZXNAZ21haWwuY29tIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+cm5vbm5la2VzQGdtYWlsLmNv bTwvYT4mZ3Q7PC9zcGFuPiB3cm90ZTo8YnI+PGJsb2NrcXVvdGUgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3Rl IiBzdHlsZT0ibWFyZ2luOjAgMCAwIC44ZXg7Ym9yZGVyLWxlZnQ6MXB4ICNjY2Mgc29saWQ7cGFk ZGluZy1sZWZ0OjFleCI+CjxkaXYgZGlyPSJsdHIiPjxkaXY+PGRpdj5XZSByZWNlbnRseSBoYWQg YSBsYWR5IGJyaW5nIGluIGEgYmlrZSBmb3IgZG9uYXRpb24uwqAgSXQgaXMgYW4gZWFybHkgMTk4 MCYjMzk7cyBSb3NzaSBDb2x1bWJpYSwgY3VzdG9tIG1hZGUgZm9yIGhlci4gU2hlJiMzOTtzIGFk YW1hbnQgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyBwbGF0ZWQgd2l0aCAyNGsgZ29sZCAtIGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgaXQgdG9v IChhbHRob3VnaCB3ZSYjMzk7cmUgc3BlY3VsYXRpbmcgb24gZ29sZCBjb2xvdXJlZCBjaHJvbWUp LsKgIEl0JiMzOTtzIGluIGdvb2QgY29uZGl0aW9uLsKgIENhbiBhbnlvbmUgc3VnZ2VzdCBob3cg d2UgY2FuIGdldCBpdCBhcHByYWlzZWQgZm9yIHZhbHVlPzxicj4KCjxicj48L2Rpdj5DeWNsZSBU cmFuc2l0aW9ucyw8YnI+PC9kaXY+Q29ib3VyZyBPbnRhcmlvLCBDYW5hZGE8YnI+PC9kaXY+Cjxi cj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX188YnI+Cjxicj4KVGhlIFRoaW5r VGFuayBtYWlsaW5nIExpc3Q8YnI+CiZsdDthIGhyZWY9JnF1b3Q7PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2xp c3RzLmJpa2Vjb2xsZWN0aXZlcy5vcmcvb3B0aW9ucy5jZ2kvdGhldGhpbmt0YW5rLWJpa2Vjb2xs ZWN0aXZlcy5vcmciIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj5odHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuYmlrZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVz Lm9yZy9vcHRpb25zLmNnaS90aGV0aGlua3RhbmstYmlrZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVzLm9yZzwvYT4mcXVv dDsmZ3Q7VW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgZnJvbSB0aGlzIGxpc3QmbHQ7L2EmZ3Q7PGJyPgoKPGJyPgo8YnI+ PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj4K --===============5773563802413606688==-- From sheldon@spokesconnect.org Thu Aug 7 12:03:17 2014 From: sheldon mains To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:03:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0524000818482588687==" --===============0524000818482588687== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, just saw you are in Canada. I don't have a clue what the policies of Revenue Canada are. .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect www.SpokesConnect.org www.fb.com/SpokesConnect Minneapolis, MN 612/618-7149 Three ways to donate to SPOKES: 1. Volunteer. 2. Donate repairable used bikes. 3. Financial donations always welcome. Check www.SpokesConnect.org for details. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early > 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated > with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold > coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can > get it appraised for value? > > Cycle Transitions, > Cobourg Ontario, Canada > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > --===============0524000818482588687== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+c29ycnksIGp1c3Qgc2F3IHlvdSBhcmUgaW4gQ2FuYWRhLiBJIGRvbiYj Mzk7dCBoYXZlIGEgY2x1ZSB3aGF0IHRoZSBwb2xpY2llcyBvZiBSZXZlbnVlIENhbmFkYSBhcmUu PC9kaXY+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfZXh0cmEiPjxiciBjbGVhcj0iYWxsIj48ZGl2PjxkaXYg ZGlyPSJsdHIiPi4uLi4uLi4uLi4uLi4uPGRpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlh bDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPgpTaGVsZG9uIE1haW5zPC9kaXY+PGRpdiBzdHlsZT0iZm9udC1m YW1pbHk6YXJpYWw7Zm9udC1zaXplOnNtYWxsIj5TUE9LRVMgQmlrZSBXYWxrIENvbm5lY3Q8L2Rp dj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPjxhIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuU3Bva2VzQ29ubmVjdC5vcmciIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj53d3cuU3Bva2Vz Q29ubmVjdC5vcmc8L2E+wqDCoDxhIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmIuY29tL1Nwb2tlc0Nvbm5l Y3QiIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj53d3cuZmIuY29tL1Nwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Q8L2E+PC9kaXY+Cjxk aXYgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OmFyaWFsO2ZvbnQtc2l6ZTpzbWFsbCI+TWlubmVhcG9saXMs IE1OwqA2MTIvNjE4LTcxNDk8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250 LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPlRocmVlIHdheXMgdG8gZG9uYXRlIHRvIFNQT0tFUzo8L2Rpdj48ZGl2IHN0 eWxlPSJmb250LWZhbWlseTphcmlhbDtmb250LXNpemU6c21hbGwiPjEuIFZvbHVudGVlci4gwqAy LiBEb25hdGUgcmVwYWlyYWJsZSB1c2VkIGJpa2VzLiAzLiBGaW5hbmNpYWwgZG9uYXRpb25zIGFs d2F5cyB3ZWxjb21lLiBDaGVjayA8YSBocmVmPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LlNwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Qub3Jn IiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+d3d3LlNwb2tlc0Nvbm5lY3Qub3JnPC9hPiBmb3IgZGV0YWlscy48 L2Rpdj4KPC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+PC9kaXY+Cjxicj48YnI+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfcXVvdGUi Pk9uIFRodSwgQXVnIDcsIDIwMTQgYXQgNzoyNSBBTSwgUmljayBOb25uZWtlcyA8c3BhbiBkaXI9 Imx0ciI+Jmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpybm9ubmVrZXNAZ21haWwuY29tIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9i bGFuayI+cm5vbm5la2VzQGdtYWlsLmNvbTwvYT4mZ3Q7PC9zcGFuPiB3cm90ZTo8YnI+PGJsb2Nr cXVvdGUgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3RlIiBzdHlsZT0ibWFyZ2luOjAgMCAwIC44ZXg7Ym9yZGVy LWxlZnQ6MXB4ICNjY2Mgc29saWQ7cGFkZGluZy1sZWZ0OjFleCI+CjxkaXYgZGlyPSJsdHIiPjxk aXY+PGRpdj5XZSByZWNlbnRseSBoYWQgYSBsYWR5IGJyaW5nIGluIGEgYmlrZSBmb3IgZG9uYXRp b24uwqAgSXQgaXMgYW4gZWFybHkgMTk4MCYjMzk7cyBSb3NzaSBDb2x1bWJpYSwgY3VzdG9tIG1h ZGUgZm9yIGhlci4gU2hlJiMzOTtzIGFkYW1hbnQgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyBwbGF0ZWQgd2l0aCAyNGsg Z29sZCAtIGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgaXQgdG9vIChhbHRob3VnaCB3ZSYjMzk7cmUgc3BlY3VsYXRpbmcg b24gZ29sZCBjb2xvdXJlZCBjaHJvbWUpLsKgIEl0JiMzOTtzIGluIGdvb2QgY29uZGl0aW9uLsKg IENhbiBhbnlvbmUgc3VnZ2VzdCBob3cgd2UgY2FuIGdldCBpdCBhcHByYWlzZWQgZm9yIHZhbHVl Pzxicj4KCjxicj48L2Rpdj5DeWNsZSBUcmFuc2l0aW9ucyw8YnI+PC9kaXY+Q29ib3VyZyBPbnRh cmlvLCBDYW5hZGE8YnI+PC9kaXY+Cjxicj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX188YnI+Cjxicj4KVGhlIFRoaW5rVGFuayBtYWlsaW5nIExpc3Q8YnI+CiZsdDthIGhyZWY9 JnF1b3Q7PGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLmJpa2Vjb2xsZWN0aXZlcy5vcmcvb3B0aW9ucy5j Z2kvdGhldGhpbmt0YW5rLWJpa2Vjb2xsZWN0aXZlcy5vcmciIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj5odHRw Oi8vbGlzdHMuYmlrZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVzLm9yZy9vcHRpb25zLmNnaS90aGV0aGlua3RhbmstYmlr ZWNvbGxlY3RpdmVzLm9yZzwvYT4mcXVvdDsmZ3Q7VW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgZnJvbSB0aGlzIGxpc3Qm bHQ7L2EmZ3Q7PGJyPgoKPGJyPgo8YnI+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj4K --===============0524000818482588687==-- From mfen651@aol.com Thu Aug 7 13:06:02 2014 From: mfen651@aol.com To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: <8D180922491718F-20F0-399A@webmail-va045.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7346887383896492726==" --===============7346887383896492726== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Long shot here, but this is not a matter of IRS or Ministry of CD, its a matt= er of market. =20 I've traded in exotic cars and rare aviation artifacts for many years. I've = seen all sorts of things claimed to have all sorts of value. At the end of t= he day, if its a collectable and has value, why would she be donating it to a= collective? Because she can't sell it, that's why. =20 However the bottom line is what will the market pay for it? If she is going = to donate it to you, it has no value, unless she can (a) substantiate that it= is 24kt gold, note gold chrome. (b) That there is a market for it. The last= point (b) is why the IRS and Finance Ministry would both frown on the recipi= ent determining the value in the absence of any substantial evidence for that= value.=20 Somewhere in Canada there is someone who is a purported "expert" in bicycles = and another who might likely be a metallurgist and can chemically or otherwis= e verify the gold v. chrome matter. Then the "expert" should be able to dete= rmine if there is a market for this bike regardless of gold v. chrome. Good luck. Would enjoy knowing the outcome. =20 Thank you Matt =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: sheldon mains To: The Think Tank Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike The IRS really frowns on the recipient of donated goods providing a value. Sh= e should get it appraised herself. With the special condition, it may be mor= e difficult. Maybe an antique dealer would be a good bet. sheldon .............. Sheldon Mains SPOKES Bike Walk Connect www.SpokesConnect.org www.fb.com/SpokesConnect Minneapolis, MN 612/618-7149 Three ways to donate to SPOKES: 1. Volunteer. 2. Donate repairable used bikes. 3. Financial donations always= welcome. Check www.SpokesConnect.org for details. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early 1980's R= ossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated with 24k = gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold coloured chrome)= . It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can get it appraised fo= r value? 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Thu Aug 7 13:26:25 2014 From: Josh Bisker To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:26:04 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3787489365710163014==" --===============3787489365710163014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Take anything, try to sell it in NYC, and add like, hundreds of dollars. It's crazy here, y'all. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM, sheldon mains wrote: > sorry, just saw you are in Canada. I don't have a clue what the policies > of Revenue Canada are. > > .............. > Sheldon Mains > SPOKES Bike Walk Connect > www.SpokesConnect.org www.fb.com/SpokesConnect > Minneapolis, MN 612/618-7149 > Three ways to donate to SPOKES: > 1. Volunteer. 2. Donate repairable used bikes. 3. Financial donations > always welcome. Check www.SpokesConnect.org for details. > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > >> We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early >> 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated >> with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold >> coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can >> get it appraised for value? >> >> Cycle Transitions, >> Cobourg Ontario, Canada >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.= org">Unsubscribe >> from this list >> >> >> > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o= rg">Unsubscribe > from this list > > > --===============3787489365710163014== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+VGFrZSBhbnl0aGluZywgdHJ5IHRvIHNlbGwgaXQgaW4gTllDLCBhbmQg YWRkIGxpa2UsIGh1bmRyZWRzIG9mIGRvbGxhcnMuIEl0JiMzOTtzIGNyYXp5IGhlcmUsIHkmIzM5 O2FsbC4gPGJyPjwvZGl2PjxkaXYgY2xhc3M9ImdtYWlsX2V4dHJhIj48YnI+PGJyPjxkaXYgY2xh c3M9ImdtYWlsX3F1b3RlIj5PbiBUaHUsIEF1ZyA3LCAyMDE0IGF0IDM6MDMgUE0sIHNoZWxkb24g 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From: James McCarthy To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Appraising the value of a bike Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:16:43 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0962561966160482158==" --===============0962561966160482158== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about a picture or two? On Thursday, August 7, 2014, Rick Nonnekes wrote: > We recently had a lady bring in a bike for donation. It is an early > 1980's Rossi Columbia, custom made for her. She's adamant that it is plated > with 24k gold - looks like it too (although we're speculating on gold > coloured chrome). It's in good condition. Can anyone suggest how we can > get it appraised for value? > > Cycle Transitions, > Cobourg Ontario, Canada > -- Jim McCarthy cell:(401)523-5321 e-mail: NRGeeOne(a)gmail.com --===============0962561966160482158== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 SG93IGFib3V0IGEgcGljdHVyZSBvciB0d28/IKA8c3Bhbj48L3NwYW4+PGJyPjxicj5PbiBUaHVy c2RheSwgQXVndXN0IDcsIDIwMTQsIFJpY2sgTm9ubmVrZXMgJmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpy bm9ubmVrZXNAZ21haWwuY29tIj5ybm9ubmVrZXNAZ21haWwuY29tPC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJy PjxibG9ja3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdpbjowIDAgMCAuOGV4 O2JvcmRlci1sZWZ0OjFweCAjY2NjIHNvbGlkO3BhZGRpbmctbGVmdDoxZXgiPgo8ZGl2IGRpcj0i bHRyIj48ZGl2PjxkaXY+V2UgcmVjZW50bHkgaGFkIGEgbGFkeSBicmluZyBpbiBhIGJpa2UgZm9y IGRvbmF0aW9uLqAgSXQgaXMgYW4gZWFybHkgMTk4MCYjMzk7cyBSb3NzaSBDb2x1bWJpYSwgY3Vz dG9tIG1hZGUgZm9yIGhlci4gU2hlJiMzOTtzIGFkYW1hbnQgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyBwbGF0ZWQgd2l0 aCAyNGsgZ29sZCAtIGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgaXQgdG9vIChhbHRob3VnaCB3ZSYjMzk7cmUgc3BlY3Vs YXRpbmcgb24gZ29sZCBjb2xvdXJlZCBjaHJvbWUpLqAgSXQmIzM5O3MgaW4gZ29vZCBjb25kaXRp b24uoCBDYW4gYW55b25lIHN1Z2dlc3QgaG93IHdlIGNhbiBnZXQgaXQgYXBwcmFpc2VkIGZvciB2 YWx1ZT88YnI+Cgo8YnI+PC9kaXY+Q3ljbGUgVHJhbnNpdGlvbnMsPGJyPjwvZGl2PkNvYm91cmcg T250YXJpbywgQ2FuYWRhPGJyPjwvZGl2Pgo8L2Jsb2NrcXVvdGU+PGJyPjxicj4tLSA8YnI+Smlt IE1jQ2FydGh5PGJyPmNlbGw6KDQwMSk1MjMtNTMyMTxicj5lLW1haWw6IDxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0 bzpOUkdlZU9uZUBnbWFpbC5jb20iIHRhcmdldD0iX2JsYW5rIj5OUkdlZU9uZUBnbWFpbC5jb208 L2E+PGJyPgo= --===============0962561966160482158==--