From danceswithcars@gmail.com Sun Apr 12 22:07:12 2015 From: DancesWithCars To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Spam declared when I replied on a topic Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2349998927650333933==" --===============2349998927650333933== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Somehow my message was declared spam, and I've seen problems before with yahoo accounts (not mine), the message I was replying to, so heads up. While extremely snarky, I don't believe it was spam, nor do I think I mistouched the damn tablet and declared it so, as the message says. 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To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Spam declared when I replied on a topic Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:17:27 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3780598150282785429==" --===============3780598150282785429== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure why it was filtered. Has anyone else encountered the same proble= m? In the meantime, try resending it and maybe forward the response you got dire= ctly to me so I might be able to look into it a bit more. godwin Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:58 -0400 From: danceswithcars(a)gmail.com To: thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org CC: danceswithcars(a)gmail.com; thinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Spam declared when I replied on a topic Somehow my message was declared spam, and I've seen problems before with yaho= o accounts (not mine), the message I was replying to, so heads up. While ext= remely snarky, I don't believe it was spam, nor do I think I mistouched the d= amn tablet and declared it so, as the message says. 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Has anyone else encountered the same prob= lem? >=20 > In the meantime, try resending it and maybe forward the response you got di= rectly to me so I might be able to look into it a bit more. >=20 > godwin >=20 >=20 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:58 -0400 > From: danceswithcars(a)gmail.com > To: thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org > CC: danceswithcars(a)gmail.com; thinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org > Subject: [TheThinkTank] Spam declared when I replied on a topic >=20 > Somehow my message was declared spam, and I've seen problems before with ya= hoo accounts (not mine), the message I was replying to, so heads up. 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multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1651296682183139751==" --===============1651296682183139751== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Exactly. Here is another good article about this issue:=20 http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/yahoos-new-dmarc-policy-destroys-every.html That link came from mailman's wiki: http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC April 7, 2015 DMARC is what one might call an emerging e-mail security scheme. There's a draft on it at draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base-04, intended for the independent stream. It's emerging pretty fast, since many of the largest mail systems in the world have already implemented it, including Gmail, Hotmail/MSN/Outlook, Comcast, and Yahoo. ThinkTank is using version 2.1.17 of mailman so there are some built-in=20 configurations that should be set, since this is what Yahoo and AOL are=20 recommending to pass the DMARC test: Rewrite (Munge) the From: header=20 with the posters name 'via the list' and the list's address and merge=20 the poster's address into Reply-To -Jonathan On 04/12/2015 09:46 PM, Mark Rehder wrote: > Yahoo changed their system last year, which caused problems. > > https://blog.mailchimp.com/yahoo-changes-may-affect-your-deliverability/ > > Mark Rehder - Coordinator > re-Cycles Community Bike Shop > http://re-cycles.ca > > On 2015-04-12, at 6:17 PM, Godwin ! wrote: > >> I'm not sure why it was filtered. Has anyone else encountered the=20 >> same problem? >> >> In the meantime, try resending it and maybe forward the response you=20 >> got directly to me so I might be able to look into it a bit more. >> >> godwin >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:58 -0400 >> From:danceswithcars(a)gmail.com >> To:thethinktank(a)bikecollectives.org=20 >> >> CC:danceswithcars(a)gmail.com=20 >> ;thinktank-owner(a)bikecollectives.org = >> >> Subject: [TheThinkTank] Spam declared when I replied on a topic >> >> Somehow my message was declared spam, and I've seen problems before=20 >> with yahoo accounts (not mine), the message I was replying to, so=20 >> heads up. While extremely snarky, I don't believe it was spam, nor do=20 >> I think I mistouched the damn tablet and declared it so, as the=20 >> message says. >> Caveat empor. >> >> ____________________________________ The ThinkTank mailing=20 >> ListUnsubscribe from this list=20 >> >> ____________________________________ >> >> The ThinkTank mailing List >> > href=3D"http://lists.bikecollectives.org/options.cgi/thethinktank-bikecoll= ectives.org">Unsubscribe=20 >> from this list >> > > > > ____________________________________ > > The ThinkTank mailing List > Unsubscribe from this list > ____________________________________ The ThinkTank mailing List Unsubscribe from this list --===============1651296682183139751== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGh0bWw+CiAgPGhlYWQ+CiAgICA8bWV0YSBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9SVNP 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