And when you read it without those two words, it sounds positively Libertarian. I didn't realize there were so many "Ayn" Randians at The Think Tank.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:00 PM Robert Rands <cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com> wrote:

Take out "white supremacy" and look at it as a critique of power structures.  Otherwise, I think it is a divisive paper that stokes animosity and will not lead to any solutions other than a power struggle of pendulum swings & unenlightened division.

~Robert Rands
SoPo Bike Coöp

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 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:16:10 -0700
 From: "Kieran O'Neill" <oneillkza@gmail.com>
 To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
 Cc: judith@backalleybikes.org
 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white
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 Just as a follow-up to this thread, I
 just ran across the same
 material incorporated into a larger
 workshop:

 https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workbook.pdf

 I believe it's by some of the same
 authors, and may be a more updated
 version. This version definitely
 expands on and contextualises the
 excerpt which Angel posted, and is well
 worth the read.
 On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista
 Nicholas <cyclista@inventati.org>
 wrote:
 >
 > All,
 >
 > Rereading over this thread, this
 really stood out to me:
 >
 > > They are not measuring the
 right things, but they don?t know it because
 > > they are not valuing
 subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
 >
 > Yeah, I definitely feel you.
 >
 > Thanks.
 >
 > cyclista Nicholas
 >
 >
 >
 > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist
 wrote:
 > > Thanks for your input,
 Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
 > > sure.
 > >
 > > Ride on,
 > >
 > > Judith C Feist
 > > Co Director, the Hub at Back
 Alley
 > >
 > >
 > > *"*Radical simply means
 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
 > >
 > > "A woman without a man is
 like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
 > > Steinem
 > >
 > > I think [the bicycle] has
 done more to emancipate women than anything
 > > else
 > > in the world...It gives a
 woman a feeling of freedom and
 > > self-reliance.~Susan B.
 Anthony
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 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:06:12 -0400
 From: Judith Feist <judith@backalleybikes.org>
 To: oneillkza@gmail.com
 Cc: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white
 supremacy culture
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 Thanks for sharing, Kieran. (:


 On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:16 PM Kieran
 O'Neill <oneillkza@gmail.com>
 wrote:

 > Just as a follow-up to this
 thread, I just ran across the same
 > material incorporated into a
 larger workshop:
 >
 >
 > https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workbook.pdf
 >
 > I believe it's by some of the same
 authors, and may be a more updated
 > version. This version definitely
 expands on and contextualises the
 > excerpt which Angel posted, and is
 well worth the read.
 > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05,
 Cyclista Nicholas <cyclista@inventati.org>
 > wrote:
 > >
 > > All,
 > >
 > > Rereading over this thread,
 this really stood out to me:
 > >
 > > > They are not measuring
 the right things, but they don?t know it because
 > > > they are not valuing
 subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
 > >
 > > Yeah, I definitely feel you.
 > >
 > > Thanks.
 > >
 > > cyclista Nicholas
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith
 Feist wrote:
 > > > Thanks for your input,
 Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
 > > > sure.
 > > >
 > > > Ride on,
 > > >
 > > > Judith C Feist
 > > > Co Director, the Hub at
 Back Alley
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > *"*Radical simply means
 'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
 > > >
 > > > "A woman without a man
 is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
 > > > Steinem
 > > >
 > > > I think [the bicycle]
 has done more to emancipate women than anything
 > > > else
 > > > in the world...It gives
 a woman a feeling of freedom and
 > > > self-reliance.~Susan B.
 Anthony
 > > >
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