Profits for what?  Many have Paid staff, so I guess that's where the Profits could go. Our's, Bike New Britain does not.  We use the money we make to
pay our rent, utilities, and buy new parts for repairs, recycling bikes for sale or donations, and sell parts and accessories to the general public, which are usually people of limited means.
That said, I continually ask myself whether a totally volunteer org. can survive in the long run.
Mark
BikeNB.org

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  1. Shops operating as for profit Co-ops? (Carlyn Arteaga)
  2. Re: Shops operating as for profit Co-ops? (Jean-Fran?ois Caron)
  3. Re: Shops operating as for profit Co-ops? (Jim Sheehan)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 20:03:21 -0700
From: Carlyn Arteaga <carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: [TheThinkTank] Shops operating as for profit Co-ops?
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*Spanish below // espa?ol abajo*

Hi all,

I am involved with a local mobility justice group here in Tucson called FUGA
<https://www.tucsonaz.gov/files/bicycle/documents/TTT_Safe_Streets_FUGA_FD.pdf>
(Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad), which is interested in supporting
a bicycle co-op on Tucson's southside, which is our historically
under-resourced area. BICAS, where I work, is a nonprofit, so I haven't had
a lot of experience on the for profit side. Would any shops out there in
ThinkTanklandia which operate as for profit co-ops be open to chatting with
the FUGistas about your experiences, operations, challenges, etc? Perhaps
even be willing to be part of a group call during which we could do some q
& a with you and other co-op folks? If so, please let me know. Thanks for
considering.

Ride on,
~Carlyn

//

Buenos d?as a todxs,

Estoy involucrado con un grupo local que se trata de las movilidades justas
aqu? en Tucson llamado FUGA (Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad), que
est? interesado en apoyar una cooperativa de bicicletas en el Southside
Tucson, que es nuestra ?rea hist?ricamente con recursos insuficientes.
BICAS, donde trabajo ahora, es una organizaci?n sin fines de lucro, por lo
que no he tenido mucha experiencia en el lado con fines lucrativos. ?Alguna
tienda en ThinkTanklandia que opere como cooperativa con fines de lucro
estar?a dispuesta a conversar con las FUGistas sobre sus experiencias,
operaciones, desaf?os, etc.? ?Quiz?s incluso estar dispuesto a ser parte de
una llamada grupal durante la cual podr?amos hacer algunas preguntas y
respuestas con usted y otras cooperativas? Si es as?, por favor h?gamelo
saber. Gracias por considerar.

Que sigan rodando,
~Carlyn

--

*Carlyn Arteaga*

*pronouns: they/them/theirs*

Youth Program Coordinator

*BICAS*

2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950

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Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 20:29:58 -0700
From: Jean-Fran?ois Caron <jfcaron3@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Shops operating as for profit Co-ops?
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The only one I know of is Hub Bike Co-op in Minneapolis.  It's a worker's collective kind of co-op, and afaik it operates for profit while trying to financial accessibility.

https://www.thehubbikecoop.org/articles/our-mission-pg296.htm <https://www.thehubbikecoop.org/articles/our-mission-pg296.htm>

Jean-Fran?ois

> On May 4, 2022, at 20:03, Carlyn Arteaga <carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org> wrote:
>
> Spanish below // espa?ol abajo
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am involved with a local mobility justice group here in Tucson called FUGA <https://www.tucsonaz.gov/files/bicycle/documents/TTT_Safe_Streets_FUGA_FD.pdf> (Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad), which is interested in supporting a bicycle co-op on Tucson's southside, which is our historically under-resourced area. BICAS, where I work, is a nonprofit, so I haven't had a lot of experience on the for profit side. Would any shops out there in ThinkTanklandia which operate as for profit co-ops be open to chatting with the FUGistas about your experiences, operations, challenges, etc? Perhaps even be willing to be part of a group call during which we could do some q & a with you and other co-op folks? If so, please let me know. Thanks for considering.
>
> Ride on,
> ~Carlyn
>
> //
>
> Buenos d?as a todxs,
>
> Estoy involucrado con un grupo local que se trata de las movilidades justas aqu? en Tucson llamado FUGA (Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad), que est? interesado en apoyar una cooperativa de bicicletas en el Southside Tucson, que es nuestra ?rea hist?ricamente con recursos insuficientes. BICAS, donde trabajo ahora, es una organizaci?n sin fines de lucro, por lo que no he tenido mucha experiencia en el lado con fines lucrativos. ?Alguna tienda en ThinkTanklandia que opere como cooperativa con fines de lucro estar?a dispuesta a conversar con las FUGistas sobre sus experiencias, operaciones, desaf?os, etc.? ?Quiz?s incluso estar dispuesto a ser parte de una llamada grupal durante la cual podr?amos hacer algunas preguntas y respuestas con usted y otras cooperativas? Si es as?, por favor h?gamelo saber. Gracias por considerar.
>
> Que sigan rodando,
> ~Carlyn
>
> --
> Carlyn Arteaga
>
> pronouns: they/them/theirs
>
> Youth Program Coordinator
>
> BICAS
>
> 2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950
>
> carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org <mailto:carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org> | www.bicas.org <http://www.bicas.org/> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/bicascollective/> | Instagram <http://www.instagram.com/bicastucson/>
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Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 10:55:39 -0400
From: Jim Sheehan <jim@ohiocitycycles.org>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Shops operating as for profit Co-ops?
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I'd be glad to, Carlyn: Upcycles Bike Shop
<https://www.affordablebikesrecyclery.com/> is one here, I could ask James
if he would be interested; and I know a bit about hybrid models from
working in 501c3s that have forprofit subsidiaries.
Jim

Jim Sheehan
Executive Director
Ohio City Bicycle Co-op
1840 Columbus Rd
Cleveland, Ohio 44113
216 830 2667
OhioCityCycles.org
jim@ohiocitycycles.org


On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:03 PM Carlyn Arteaga <carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org>
wrote:

> *Spanish below // espa?ol abajo*
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am involved with a local mobility justice group here in Tucson called
> FUGA
> <https://www.tucsonaz.gov/files/bicycle/documents/TTT_Safe_Streets_FUGA_FD.pdf>
> (Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad), which is interested in supporting
> a bicycle co-op on Tucson's southside, which is our historically
> under-resourced area. BICAS, where I work, is a nonprofit, so I haven't had
> a lot of experience on the for profit side. Would any shops out there in
> ThinkTanklandia which operate as for profit co-ops be open to chatting with
> the FUGistas about your experiences, operations, challenges, etc? Perhaps
> even be willing to be part of a group call during which we could do some q
> & a with you and other co-op folks? If so, please let me know. Thanks for
> considering.
>
> Ride on,
> ~Carlyn
>
> //
>
> Buenos d?as a todxs,
>
> Estoy involucrado con un grupo local que se trata de las movilidades
> justas aqu? en Tucson llamado FUGA (Familias Unidas Ganando Accesibilidad),
> que est? interesado en apoyar una cooperativa de bicicletas en el Southside
> Tucson, que es nuestra ?rea hist?ricamente con recursos insuficientes.
> BICAS, donde trabajo ahora, es una organizaci?n sin fines de lucro, por lo
> que no he tenido mucha experiencia en el lado con fines lucrativos. ?Alguna
> tienda en ThinkTanklandia que opere como cooperativa con fines de lucro
> estar?a dispuesta a conversar con las FUGistas sobre sus experiencias,
> operaciones, desaf?os, etc.? ?Quiz?s incluso estar dispuesto a ser parte de
> una llamada grupal durante la cual podr?amos hacer algunas preguntas y
> respuestas con usted y otras cooperativas? Si es as?, por favor h?gamelo
> saber. Gracias por considerar.
>
> Que sigan rodando,
> ~Carlyn
>
> --
>
> *Carlyn Arteaga*
>
> *pronouns: they/them/theirs*
>
> Youth Program Coordinator
>
> *BICAS*
>
> 2001 N. 7th Ave. | Tucson, AZ 85701 | Shop: 520-628-7950
>
> carlyn.arteaga@bicas.org | www.bicas.org | Facebook
> <http://www.facebook.com/bicascollective/> | Instagram
> <http://www.instagram.com/bicastucson/>
>
>
>
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> our greater Tucson community.*
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