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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their inflexibility with
      co-ops (Leslie Peteya)
   2. Re: Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their        inflexibility with
      co-ops (wormsign@gmail.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:14:03 -0400
From: Leslie Peteya <lesliepeteya@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their
        inflexibility with co-ops
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"They will take action to shut down accounts that are abused to protect
their products, even for seemingly minor PR offenses"

Yeah, I know that's been happening lately in the third party supplier
industry, but unfortunately we're taking the hit for it.

We're not open during normal business hours because we're volunteer run, so
our hours are precisely opposite of that
(most volunteers are 9-5 types, hospital workers or grad students).

Best,
Leslie


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Bobby Brown <bobby@sopobikes.org> wrote:

> Sopo has been using Hawley forever but I've never been in charge of
> dealing with them directly.  Being in Atlanta, we tend to receive shipments
> next day from them to our PO box offsite with no problems.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Luke Box <lukebox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One more for J&B. I'm not sure of their stance on supporting non-profits
>> but they've worked for us. We've ordered a couple of thousand dollars worth
>> of parts from them over three years and as far as I know there haven't been
>> hiccups.
>>
>> theBrokeSpoke
>> Lexington, KY
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Wm Dakota Callaschai <
>> mylifeinthenow@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> J&B Importers inc!! They have a warehouse like 30 miles from you!!
>>> 919-877-1002 give them a call.
>>> Troy Bike Rescue has been gettin our stuff from them for almost 10
>>> years!! Its been great!
>>> On Mar 25, 2014 2:08 PM, "Leslie Peteya" <lesliepeteya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP.
>>>>
>>>> After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic
>>>> small potatoes shop stuff,
>>>> we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability
>>>> to ship to a new ship-to location.  I succinctly explained the nature of
>>>> our shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and
>>>> necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf
>>>> ears.
>>>>
>>>> Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good
>>>> financial management.
>>>>
>>>> I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an
>>>> account based on similar issues.
>>>>
>>>> This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party
>>>> suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. Ironically,
>>>> we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our area
>>>> have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt by
>>>> the very policy designed to protect LBSs.
>>>>
>>>> We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring
>>>> new accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with
>>>> community missions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Leslie
>>>> Durham Bike Co-op
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>
> --
> Bobby Brown
> Sopo Bicycle Cooperative
>
> Cell: 770 851 0965
> bobby@sopobikes.org
> http://www.sopobikes.org
>
> Hours:
> Tuesday 7pm - 10pm
> Wednesday 7pm - 10pm
> Thursday 7pm - 10pm
> Saturday 2pm - 6pm
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:21:29 -0700
From: wormsign@gmail.com
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Beware of Quality Bike Parts and their
        inflexibility with co-ops
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We have a neighboring business owner agree to sign for the deliveries. He has a key to the shop but more often just holds on to the boxes at his place until we come claim them.

Enzo Loconte
Board Secretary
Bikerowave

On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Leslie Peteya <lesliepeteya@gmail.com> wrote:

> "They will take action to shut down accounts that are abused to protect their products, even for seemingly minor PR offenses"
>
> Yeah, I know that's been happening lately in the third party supplier industry, but unfortunately we're taking the hit for it.
>
> We're not open during normal business hours because we're volunteer run, so our hours are precisely opposite of that
> (most volunteers are 9-5 types, hospital workers or grad students).
>
> Best,
> Leslie
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Bobby Brown <bobby@sopobikes.org> wrote:
>> Sopo has been using Hawley forever but I've never been in charge of dealing with them directly.  Being in Atlanta, we tend to receive shipments next day from them to our PO box offsite with no problems.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Luke Box <lukebox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> One more for J&B. I'm not sure of their stance on supporting non-profits but they've worked for us. We've ordered a couple of thousand dollars worth of parts from them over three years and as far as I know there haven't been hiccups.
>>>
>>> theBrokeSpoke
>>> Lexington, KY
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Wm Dakota Callaschai <mylifeinthenow@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> J&B Importers inc!! They have a warehouse like 30 miles from you!!
>>>> 919-877-1002 give them a call.
>>>> Troy Bike Rescue has been gettin our stuff from them for almost 10 years!! Its been great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2014 2:08 PM, "Leslie Peteya" <lesliepeteya@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Wanted to warn y'all of dealing with QBP.
>>>>>
>>>>> After 7 years of having a dealer agreement with QBP for your basic small potatoes shop stuff,
>>>>> we decided to shut down our account with them over their new inability to ship to a new ship-to location.  I succinctly explained the nature of our shop (volunteer, limited shop hours, etc.) and
>>>>> necessity of shipping to a different location, but it fell on deaf ears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn shame, because they said we were an excellent account with good financial management.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also wasn't pleased that they said they denied other new co-ops an account based on similar issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> This comes after their corporate policy of tightening up on third party suppliers, designed to keep the local bike shop in business. Ironically, we're still around after multiple for-profit local bike shops in our area have failed, and as a local community bike shop, we're now being hurt by the very policy designed to protect LBSs.
>>>>>
>>>>> We still have an account with United Bicycle Supply, and I'm exploring new accounts with Cyclone and Seattle Bike Supply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone recommend other suppliers that support our shops with community missions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Leslie
>>>>> Durham Bike Co-op
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> The ThinkTank mailing List
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bobby Brown
>> Sopo Bicycle Cooperative
>>
>> Cell: 770 851 0965
>> bobby@sopobikes.org
>> http://www.sopobikes.org
>>
>> Hours:
>> Tuesday 7pm - 10pm
>> Wednesday 7pm - 10pm
>> Thursday 7pm - 10pm
>> Saturday 2pm - 6pm
>>
>> ____________________________________
>>
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