I think the initial un-cited, detail-bare, sweeping declarative statement has set off the skeptic alarms among a number of us.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, I grabbed an MSDS sheet for Tri-flow myself.  Here you go, <a href="http://www.paintdocs.com/webmsds/webPDF.jsp?SITEID=DBS&amp;prodno=032053210136&amp;doctype=MSDS&amp;lang=E" target="_blank">a link to a PDF for the non-aerosol stuff</a>.</div>


<div><br></div><div>More telling than the listed hazards is the composition (for me, at least, being mildly familiar with the more common of the ingredients).</div><div><br></div><div><b>% By weight:</b></div><div>35% - hexane</div>


<div>16% - 2-methylpentane</div><div>6% - 3-methylpentane</div><div>5% - 2,3-dimethylbutane</div><div>2% - 2,2-dimethylbutane</div><div><div>7% - mineral spirits</div><div>10% - heavy naphthenic petroleum oil</div><div>2% - cyclohexane</div>


<div>1% - amyl acetate</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mmmm.  Knowing this, I&#39;ll probably start wearing gloves and stop sniffing so much when using Tri-Flow. Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>(Also, holy firebomb. Triflow&#39;s website lists the flashpoint as &lt; 0F. Note to self: pay more attention to surroundings when torching bottom brackets.)</div>


<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>By contrast, <a href="http://www.pedros.com/MSDS/MSDS_8_27_08_US/Chainj_US_CAN_MEX_English.pdf">Pedro&#39;s Chainj</a> just lists:</div><div><div><ul><li>Distillates (petroleum), solvent-refined heavy paraffinic, 1-5%</li>

<li>Distillates (petroleum), solvent-refined light paraffinic, 1-5%</li></ul></div></div><div><br></div><div>Christopher Chan</div><div><i>Executive Director</i><br>Edmonton Bicycle Commuters&#39; Society<div><font color="#990000">10047 80 Ave (entrance in rear lane)</font></div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Plan B <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com" target="_blank">nolabikeproject@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



  
    
  
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    <div><big><big>I think I&#39;ve got to back Ryan
          up on this one.<br>
          <br>
          Comparing it to table salt and it&#39;s MSDS sheet was telling. I
          wish there were similar data on refined sugar (which I view as
          the most dangerous toxin of all) readily available. Given my
          worldview, I would still never yell at anyone about eating 90%
          of American food.<br>
          <br>
          We use such small amounts of tri-flow regularly and use our
          own old school metal oil cans for distribution within the shop
          which releases a drop at a time. I hate petro-chemicals, to be
          sure, and we do offer gloves, but I&#39;m also on the side of the
          wear-a-bike-helmet-only-if-YOU-find it-necessary argument.
          This is also one of those cases where privilege and
          environment play a factor in people&#39;s worldview and how they
          choose to express a sentiment or opinion. Please remember this
          when making dictative statements about what&#39;s bad for us and
          what isn&#39;t. Much like the entire rest of the Gulf Coast
          (especially Tamaulipas and Vera Cruz)  Southern Louisiana is a
          place that has been made toxic by all of North America&#39;s
          indulgences. Our land has disappeared so y&#39;all could have oil
          and gas and our seafood has been poisoned repeatedly for the
          same reason. Our ground (what hasn&#39;t disappeared, anyway) has
          lead in it and we have some of the worst transportation
          infrastructure, health care, and education</big></big> <big><big>in
          the country, and this has to do mostly with unfair
          compensation of the exploitation of our natural resources,
          which EVERYONE ELSE has benefited from.<br>
          <br>
          So maybe, just maybe, we&#39;re gonna view your preaching and
          whining about tri-flow as a little indulgent. Sure, we
          appreciate the heads-up and will probably change our use of it
          as a result of this thread, BUT GODDAMMIT STOP PREACHING TO
          US. IT&#39;S ANNOYING AS HELL.<br>
          <br>
          We&#39;ve got bigger (poisoned) fish to fry. In fact, we may just
          fry it in tri-flow. <br>
          <br>
          All of our children already have cancer.<br>
          <br>
          Deal with that reality.<br>
          <br>
          And my flippant tone.<br>
          <br>
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      <pre cols="72">Victor Pizarro
Project Organizer
Plan B, The New Orleans Community Bike Project</pre><div><div>
      On 12/4/2012 8:46 PM, <a href="mailto:christopher@holisticcycles.com" target="_blank">christopher@holisticcycles.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div></div></div><div><div>
    <blockquote type="cite"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">
        <div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">Tri
              Flow MSDS sheet detail</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"><br>
            </font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">PRECAUTIONS
              TO BE TAKEN IN USE</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               Use only with adequate ventilation.  Avoid breathing
              vapor and spray</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">mist.
               Avoid contact with skin and eyes.  Wash hands after
              using.</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">VENTILATION</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               Local exhaust preferable.  </font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">RESPIRATORY
              PROTECTION</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               W</font><span style="font-family:verdana,geneva;font-size:small">ear a properly fitted organic
              vapor/particulate respirator</span></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">approved
              by NIOSH/MSHA for protection against materials in Section
              2.</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">PROTECTIVE
              GLOVES</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               </font><span style="font-family:verdana,geneva;font-size:small">For long or repeated contact, wear
              chemical</span></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">resistant
              gloves.</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">EYE
              PROTECTION</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               Wear safety s</font><font face="verdana, geneva">   Irritation of eyes, skin and respiratory
              system.  Causes nervous</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">system
              depression. Extreme overexposure may result in
              unconsciousness and</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">possibly
              death.</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">SIGNS
              AND SYMPTOMS OF EXPOSURE</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva"> 
               Headache, dizziness, nausea, and loss of coordination are
              indications of</font></div>
          <div><font face="verdana, geneva">excessive
              exposure to vapors or spray mists</font></div>
        </div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva"><br>
        </div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva">Would you like me to post more</div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva"><br>
        </div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva">Christopher Wallace</div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva">Holistic Cycles</div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva">140 Harrison St</div>
        <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva">Oak Park, IL. 60304</div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="padding-left:8px;border-left-color:blue;border-left-style:solid;font-size:10pt;margin-left:8px;font-family:verdana;border-left-width:2px">
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            -------- Original Message --------<br>
            Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Is your shop OSHA Compliant?<br>
            From: david bosch &lt;<a href="mailto:davidmbosch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">davidmbosch@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
            Date: Mon, December 03, 2012 12:05 pm<br>
            To: The Think Tank &lt;<a href="mailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org" target="_blank">thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org</a>&gt;<br>
            <br>
            <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">
              <div><span>Before everybody gets all bent out of shape
                  about Tri-Flow being a &quot;</span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">systemic
                    neurotoxin</span>&quot;, can anyone site scientific
                  literature that backs up this claim</span><span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana"></span>?</span></div>
              <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-family:Verdana"><span> I just did a check on Google
                  Scholar any came up with nothing...Or does Google
                  cause cancer as well and therefore is in on this
                  conspiracy?</span></div>
              <div style="font-style:normal;font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-family:Verdana"><span>David<br>
                </span></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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                      <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                      &quot;<a href="mailto:christopher@holisticcycles.com" target="_blank">christopher@holisticcycles.com</a>&quot;
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:christopher@holisticcycles.com" target="_blank">christopher@holisticcycles.com</a>&gt;<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                      The Think Tank &lt;<a href="mailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org" target="_blank">thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org</a>&gt;
                      <br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                      Monday, December 3, 2012 1:34 PM<br>
                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                      Re: [TheThinkTank] Is your shop OSHA Compliant?<br>
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                  <div>
                    <div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">
                        <div>Triflow is also a systemic neurotoxin that
                          wrecks both nervous system and brain. Really
                          bad stuff</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Christopher Wallace</div>
                        <div>Holistic Cycles</div>
                        <div>140 Harrison St</div>
                        <div>Oak Park, IL. 60304</div>
                        <div><br>
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                            Original Message --------<br>
                            Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Is your shop
                            OSHA Compliant?<br>
                            From: Leslie Peteya &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:lesliepeteya@gmail.com" target="_blank">lesliepeteya@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                            Date: Mon, November 05, 2012 5:58 pm<br>
                            To: The Think Tank &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org" target="_blank">thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org</a>&gt;<br>
                            <br>
                            1) Chemical-soaked rags are stored in metal
                            fireproof containers <br>
                            2) Chemicals are kept at least 4 feet high
                            away from children<br>
                            3) No smoking within 10 feet of the shop <br>
                            4) Fluorescent lights and radiant heaters
                            are caged to prevent them from being struck
                            by bikes or random<br>
                            flying parts (our back room is only 7 feet
                            high)<br>
                            5) Welding is done strictly outside the
                            shop, no youth allowed. <br>
                            6) We have a fire extinguisher in the shop,
                            and try to minimize clutter.<br>
                            7) I keep a well stocked first aid box
                            because people are always stabbing
                            themselves with cable ends, chainrings,<br>
                            tools, and the like. <br>
                            8) Encourage volunteers to get tetanus
                            vaccinations and boosters.<br>
                            9) Keep the shop stocked with nitrile gloves
                            to prevent lubricants and penetrants from
                            making skin contact-<br>
                            TriFlow is particularly absorbent, and will
                            cause capillaries to break in the hands. We
                            switched to ChainJ for this reason. <br>
                            10) Water cooler and electrolyte mix,
                            working inside or in the shade, and shorter
                            shop hours during the summer<br>
                            to prevent heatstroke and dehydration.<br>
                            11) Possibly making our core volunteers take
                            Basic First Aid and CPR, although we have
                            enough first response people floating around
                            the shop (on-duty cops, nurses, PAs, etc.)
                            to be sufficient.<br>
                            12) All electrical and water lines are
                            marked- electrical lines are run down from
                            the ceiling to prevent trip hazards.<br>
                            13) Encourage closed toe shoes, goggles and
                            masks if filing, sanding or otherwise
                            running power tools.<br>
                            <br>
                            That&#39;s about all I can think of for now.<br>
                            -Leslie <br>
                            Durham Bike Co-op (NC) <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div>On Mon,
                              Nov 5, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Rich Points <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:director@communitycycles.org" target="_blank">director@communitycycles.org</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
                              <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey All,<br>
                                I just went to a day long seminar on
                                Human Resources where they spent some
                                time talking about OSHA.  From what they
                                said at the seminar OSHA can come in at
                                any time and audit your shop. 
                                Apparently if they find violations they
                                can fine the shit out of you.  Here are
                                some things I learned and remember this
                                was 20mins of a day long seminar, there
                                are week long classes on this stuff. 
                                This is a very short list.<br>
                                <ul>
                                  <li>All chemicals and solvents should
                                    have warning labels on them clearly
                                    stating what&#39;s in them in <u>multiple
                                      languages</u></li>
                                  <li>You should not keep aspirin,
                                    ibuprofen, neosporin or any other
                                    pharmaceuticals that someone could
                                    potentially have a reaction to in
                                    your medicine cabinet<u><br>
                                    </u></li>
                                  <li>Exit signs should be on all doors.</li>
                                  <li>There should be no trip hazards. </li>
                                  <li>Your staff needs to go through
                                    trainings on such things as how to
                                    use a ladder.</li>
                                </ul>
                                This list is nowhere close to
                                comprehensive but I&#39;m going to be
                                looking into this more in the coming
                                weeks and months.  We&#39;ve been around for
                                almost seven years now never had a
                                serious accident and I want to keep it
                                that way.  <br>
                                <br>
                                What are you guys doing to keep your
                                shops safe and maybe even OSHA
                                compliant?<br>
                                <br>
                                Ride On!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    -- <br>
                                    --<br>
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