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Today's Topics:
1. Please Explain Fixie Fixation! (Wendy Monroe)
2. Re: Gross. (N.O.Bike Project)
3. Re: Please Explain Fixie Fixation! (Boson Au)
4. Re: Gross. (Boson Au)
5. Re: Gross. (Jonathan Morrison)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:39:36 +0200
From: Wendy Monroe <wendy.monroe@usermail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Subject: [TheThinkTank] Please Explain Fixie Fixation!
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This reminds me to ask something I've been wondering for awhile: why
is riding with a fixed cog relatively fashionable, compared to riding
with
a. a one-speed coaster brake hub, or
b. an internally-geared rear hub?
Please educate me!
Wendy Monroe
( 'no official name for project yet', Amsterdam)
On 10 Sep 2009, at 19:04, N.O.Bike Project wrote:
> Hey y'all,
>
> This isn't vital or on topic, unless you dig deep and start thinking
> about the commodification of bike culture, and the way that
> capitalism always seems to persevere. Just thought y'all would like
> to see what's cool these days.
>
> I don't know why, but this just made me puke a little.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> http://bikes.urbanoutfitters.com/
>
> Victor
>
> Plan B
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:57:27 -0500
From: "N.O.Bike Project" <nolabikeproject@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Gross.
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Jonathan,
No, that's not it at all.
I have a bit more of a problem with popularizing flip-flop hubs without
conscientious effort to explain the inherent risk in operation in the
interest of (huge)profit.
But thanks for the generalization.
Best,
Victor
Jonathan Morrison wrote:
> I agree. I don't want everyone riding bikes, they are just for me and
> my cool friends! Now I have to drive a car because it is the
> "alternative" thing to do.
>
> In all seriousness, this will just end up with more butts on
> bikes. Hopefully you don't care if they bought a bike from a
> collective, a local bike shop, department store, urban outfitters, or
> the other places that will soon jump on the bandwagon -- as long as
> they riding a bike.
>
> If capitalism makes it cool to ride a bike, cool to be vegetarian,
> cool to shop local, or whatever initiaitive that would kill to be in
> the position cycling is right now -- then I say bleed the beast.
> Nothing, big or small, is perfect and there is bloodshed in every
> revolution, so pick your battles wisely.
>
> BTW, This is the 5th time it has been sent to me via various parts of
> the cycling community email lists. That is the kind of advertising
> that Urban Outfitters must dream of.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan "I am bitter because I knew the band before they were
> popular" Morrison
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM, N.O.Bike Project
> <nolabikeproject@gmail.com <mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey y'all,
>
> This isn't vital or on topic, unless you dig deep and start
> thinking about the commodification of bike culture, and the way
> that capitalism always seems to persevere. Just thought y'all
> would like to see what's cool these days.
>
> I don't know why, but this just made me puke a little.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> http://bikes.urbanoutfitters.com/
>
> Victor
>
> Plan B
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:06:21 -0400
From: Boson Au <instructions@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Please Explain Fixie Fixation!
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there's defintely a romanticism of riding with fixed cogs. It is a more
mechanically simpler design and therefore, conjures up the connotations of
'purity' that is really fashionable.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Wendy Monroe <wendy.monroe@usermail.com>wrote:
> This reminds me to ask something I've been wondering for awhile: why is
> riding with a fixed cog relatively fashionable, compared to riding with
> a. a one-speed coaster brake hub, or
> b. an internally-geared rear hub?
>
> Please educate me!
>
> Wendy Monroe
> ( 'no official name for project yet', Amsterdam)
>
>
> On 10 Sep 2009, at 19:04, N.O.Bike Project wrote:
>
> Hey y'all,
>>
>> This isn't vital or on topic, unless you dig deep and start thinking about
>> the commodification of bike culture, and the way that capitalism always
>> seems to persevere. Just thought y'all would like to see what's cool these
>> days.
>>
>> I don't know why, but this just made me puke a little.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> http://bikes.urbanoutfitters.com/
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> Plan B
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:10:29 -0400
From: Boson Au <instructions@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Gross.
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hey man, safe isn't sexy
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM, N.O.Bike Project <nolabikeproject@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> No, that's not it at all.
>
> I have a bit more of a problem with popularizing flip-flop hubs without
> conscientious effort to explain the inherent risk in operation in the
> interest of (huge)profit.
>
> But thanks for the generalization.
>
> Best,
> Victor
>
> Jonathan Morrison wrote:
>
>> I agree. I don't want everyone riding bikes, they are just for me and my
>> cool friends! Now I have to drive a car because it is the "alternative"
>> thing to do. In all seriousness, this will just end up with more butts on
>> bikes. Hopefully you don't care if they bought a bike from a collective, a
>> local bike shop, department store, urban outfitters, or the other places
>> that will soon jump on the bandwagon -- as long as they riding a bike.
>> If capitalism makes it cool to ride a bike, cool to be vegetarian, cool
>> to shop local, or whatever initiaitive that would kill to be in the position
>> cycling is right now -- then I say bleed the beast. Nothing, big or small,
>> is perfect and there is bloodshed in every revolution, so pick your battles
>> wisely.
>> BTW, This is the 5th time it has been sent to me via various parts of the
>> cycling community email lists. That is the kind of advertising that Urban
>> Outfitters must dream of.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jonathan "I am bitter because I knew the band before they were popular"
>> Morrison
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM, N.O.Bike Project <
>> nolabikeproject@gmail.com <mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey y'all,
>>
>> This isn't vital or on topic, unless you dig deep and start
>> thinking about the commodification of bike culture, and the way
>> that capitalism always seems to persevere. Just thought y'all
>> would like to see what's cool these days.
>>
>> I don't know why, but this just made me puke a little.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> http://bikes.urbanoutfitters.com/
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> Plan B
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:37:16 -0600
From: Jonathan Morrison <jonathan.morrison@gmail.com>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Gross.
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The "fixie" I rode to work today has both a front and back brakes, and I
personally advocate at least the use of a front brake for people building
"fixies" in our community shop. Even the Urban Outfitters bikes have brakes
-- I don't think their insurance would be ok otherwise.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, N.O.Bike Project <
nolabikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> No, that's not it at all.
>
> I have a bit more of a problem with popularizing flip-flop hubs without
> conscientious effort to explain the inherent risk in operation in the
> interest of (huge)profit.
>
> But thanks for the generalization.
>
> Best,
> Victor
>
> Jonathan Morrison wrote:
>
>> I agree. I don't want everyone riding bikes, they are just for me and my
>> cool friends! Now I have to drive a car because it is the "alternative"
>> thing to do. In all seriousness, this will just end up with more butts on
>> bikes. Hopefully you don't care if they bought a bike from a collective, a
>> local bike shop, department store, urban outfitters, or the other places
>> that will soon jump on the bandwagon -- as long as they riding a bike.
>> If capitalism makes it cool to ride a bike, cool to be vegetarian, cool
>> to shop local, or whatever initiaitive that would kill to be in the position
>> cycling is right now -- then I say bleed the beast. Nothing, big or small,
>> is perfect and there is bloodshed in every revolution, so pick your battles
>> wisely.
>> BTW, This is the 5th time it has been sent to me via various parts of the
>> cycling community email lists. That is the kind of advertising that Urban
>> Outfitters must dream of.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jonathan "I am bitter because I knew the band before they were popular"
>> Morrison
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM, N.O.Bike Project <
>> nolabikeproject@gmail.com <mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey y'all,
>>
>> This isn't vital or on topic, unless you dig deep and start
>> thinking about the commodification of bike culture, and the way
>> that capitalism always seems to persevere. Just thought y'all
>> would like to see what's cool these days.
>>
>> I don't know why, but this just made me puke a little.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> http://bikes.urbanoutfitters.com/
>>
>> Victor
>>
>> Plan B
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