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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Tool Board Fashion Show: Strut Your (Tool
Board's) Stuff!
From:
cyclista@inventati.org
Date: Thu, January 18, 2018 6:06 pm
To:
ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org, The Think Tank
<
thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Cc: Jean-François_Caron <
jfcaron3@gmail.com>
Are there claw hammer in the photos I attached? I looked and couldn't
find any :?
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-01-17 22:43, Ron Kellis wrote:
> Uh, claw (carpenters) hammer's are not made for banging on metal,
> ball-peen
> (machinists) hammers are. I cringe when ever I see one in a shop. Can
> argue
> the metal properties all day, but it simply isn't good practice. Same
> argument as the that for the open end adjustable wrenches and vice-grip
> style pliers. I like to keep a couple of metal chisels hidden away with
> the
> files.
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Ron
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:17 PM, <
cyclista@inventati.org> wrote:
>
>> At our shop we decided a couple of months back to keep the vise grips
>> off
>> the toolboards for these reasons, but we still keep the crescent
>> wrenches
>> around because they tend to be good for bending metal, something we do
>> on
>> the regular for various reasons. We still keep the vise grips around,
>> but
>> in a drawer of specialized tools that keeps them out of sight. Your
>> arguments above are actually pretty good for keeping the crescents off
>> the
>> toolboards as well. The idea isn't to forbid these tools or to lock
>> them
>> up, just to prevent them from being the first thing new participants
>> grab
>> when they start working on something.
>>
>> Here are some haphazard shots of our toolboards which the
>> organization/program has had for around twenty years. We probably
>> should
>> upgrade them but they work well enough. They're hinged and lock closed
>> because back in the day tools got stolen all the time. Theft happens a
>> lot
>> less now, but the ability to close them makes them useful for portable
>> application.
>>
>> Josh, I think we have a couple extra empty ones laying around from
>> years
>> ago when we had a lot more sets (we only have three now, we used to
>> have
>> six). If you happen through this part of the state I'd be happy to
>> pass one
>> or two over to you. But honestly they aren't hard to make. Ours do
>> have the
>> advantage of a long history though :)
>>
>> cyclista Nicholas
>>
>>
>> On 2018-01-16 14:25, Jean-François Caron wrote:
>>
>>> Smitty I tend to apply that logic to pliers & vice-grips too.
>>> Bicycle
>>> fasteners are usually standardized well-enough that adjustable
>>> wrenches (other than the huge ones for headset locknuts maybe?),
>>> pliers, and vice-grips are almost always a crutch for not knowing the
>>> correct tool to use. A lot of DIY-types get into the habit of using
>>> pliers for any type of fastener.
>>>
>>> That said, they should be available for weird cases, but guarded by a
>>> mechanic.
>>>
>>> Jean-François
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 07:12 , Smitty <
smitty@bikeconcord.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I notice everyone has an adjustable wrench on their boards. When I
>>>> apprenticed in another trade I was taught not to use a crescent
>>>> wrench.
>>>> When I build the board for our shop, I plan to leave the crescent
>>>> wrench
>>>> off of the board. Force the students to use the proper wrench.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Josh Capps
>>>> <thegoodtimesarekillingme@gmai
>>>>
l.com <
mailto:thegoodtimesarekillingme@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure this qualifies but a few years back I made a rolling
>>>>> tool
>>>>> board <
https://simplicityvintagecycles.com/2012/07/26/a-little-hou
>>>>> sekeeping-storing-bike-tools-effectively/>. It may be useful for
>>>>> more
>>>>> dynamic or in transition shops.
>>>>> I did end up making something more permanent eventually but this
>>>>> setup <
>>>>>
https://simplicityvintagecycles.com/2016/08/07/the-home-
>>>>> bicycle-workshop/> is a bit much for a student situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Capps
>>>>> Portland, OR
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Sam Haraldson <
>>>>>
sam@bozemanbikekitchen.org <
mailto:sam@bozemanbikekitchen.org>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey! We're going to redesign our tool boards soon, and want to
>>>>>> look at
>>>>>> yours for inspiration. Show 'em off! The winner of the most fly
>>>>>> tool board
>>>>>> gets a group serenade at B!B!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <
P1030604.jpg>
>>>>> Bozeman Bike Kitchen - Bozeman, MT
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a half dozen or so of these tables, each with
>>>>> color-coordinated
>>>>> tools, stand, pump, garbage/recycling, et al which makes it easy to
>>>>> see
>>>>> when something's missing or when someone doesn't know where
>>>>> something
>>>>> goes. We copied the idea nearly verbatim from the good people down
>>>>> at the
>>>>> SLC Bike Collective.
>>>>>
>>>>> <4535740394_3cbdee19dc_
b.jpg>
>>>>> SLC Bicycle Collective - Salt Lake City, UT
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sam
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
http://bozemanbikekitchen.org <
http://bozemanbikekitchen.org/>
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