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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: outdoor tool stations (Ron Kellis)
  2. Re: outdoor tool stations (Ron Kellis)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:08:56 -0400
From: Ron Kellis <ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] outdoor tool stations
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You could braid old cables into a stainless steel mesh "Chinese Finger"
like what is used used to prevent an electrical cable from being bent at
the box or when a cable is suspended from an overhead. You would need to
make the bottle sit upright so it wouldn't leak out if left uncapped.

I'd use a couple of hog rings to close the end of the mesh. A thief will
get what they want, but the hog rings will prevent casual pilfering and can
be easily cut to replace the bottle.

Or just get a real strain relief like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Woodhead-36552-Safeway-Galvanized-Diameter/dp/B00271194G/ref=sr_1_43?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1397487912&sr=1-43&keywords=Woodhead+Cable+Strain+Relief

Ron


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bob Giordano <mist@strans.org> wrote:

> some more info to add to the conversation...
>
> a few stations are now around Missoula.  i think they are working well.
> all the different companies have improved the air pump, to be more
> durable.  air might be the most valuable asset of a fix it station.
>
> for a few years, we locked a few pumps up around town to bike racks.
> they'd last up to a year.  we're a big fan of manual pumps instead of
> compressors.
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: RE: lube on fixit?
> From:    "Andy Lageson" <andy@dero.com>
> Date:    Tue, September 20, 2011 11:20 am
> To:      "'Bob Giordano'" <mist@strans.org>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi Bob, we will only be able to fasten a cable to something that has a
> handle or loop on it.  The Triflow bottle won't work.
>
> Andy Kennedy Lageson
> Sales Manager
> andy@dero.com
> Dero Bike Rack Co
> 504 Malcolm Ave SE
> Suite 100
> Minneapolis, MN 55414
> Tel: 612-359-0689 Ext. 105
> Fax: 612-331-2731
> www.dero.com
> ? Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:19 AM
> To: Andy Lageson
> Subject: RE: lube on fixit?
>
> Perhaps there is a better way:  those little triflow bottles are ideal, as
> they can be squeezed to dispense, and can be easily refilled.  Have you
> ever done lube before on a fixit?  What do you think would be the best way
> to have lube available?  (I'm going to offer our free cycle program service
> to people in missoula that get these fixits- we can go around and
> refill/replace lube weekly I believe).
>
> -Bob Giordano, MIST
>
> Andy Lageson wrote:
> > We have added the wrenches before especially the 15mm size.  If you can
> > source a stainless steel dispenser and send me the weblink of exactly
> what
> > you want then we can order it and get it added to the fixit for you.  We
> > would have to send it without lube in it though.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:53 AM
> > To: Andy Lageson
> > Subject: lube on fixit?
> >
> > Thanks Andy.  Have you added wrenches before for other people?
> >
> > And, how about adding chain lube?  I'm thinking a refillable small
> > stainless steel dispenser of some kind, on a cable, like the wrenches.
> >
> > -Bob Giordano, MIST
> >
> > Andy Lageson wrote:
> >> Hi Bob, the cost is $15.00 per wrench.  There is room to expand the tool
> >> set on each fixit so it would cost $45.00 total to add all three
> >> wrenches.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:52 AM
> >> To: web@dero.com; Andy
> >> Subject: More wrenches on fixit?
> >>
> >> I am about to promote your air support and fix it station to many
> >> people and groups in Missoula.  I talked with a rep of your company
> >> about 3 weeks ago and am following up: can you add 13, 14 and 15mm
> >> wrenches to the fixit station and how much would it add to the cost?
> >> 13mm to adjust seat height, 14mm to adjust seat angle, 15mm for many
> >> wheels.  Thanks, -Bob Giordano, Director, Free Cycles Missoula,
> >> Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 11:41:07 -0400
From: Ron Kellis <ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org>
To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org>
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] outdoor tool stations
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This one would probably do the trick as it will hold up to a 1-1/4"
diameter cable. My experience is when you push on them to pull the cable
through they enlarge to 3 - 4 times the cable diameter they are designed
for:

http://www.amazon.com/Woodhead-35975-Flexible-Approximate-1-00-1-24/dp/B002E8BXXO/ref=sr_1_2?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1397489814&sr=1-2&keywords=Woodhead+Pulling+Grip%2C+Junior+Duty%2C+Flexible+Eye

Ron


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kellis <ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org>wrote:

> You could braid old cables into a stainless steel mesh "Chinese Finger"
> like what is used used to prevent an electrical cable from being bent at
> the box or when a cable is suspended from an overhead. You would need to
> make the bottle sit upright so it wouldn't leak out if left uncapped.
>
> I'd use a couple of hog rings to close the end of the mesh. A thief will
> get what they want, but the hog rings will prevent casual pilfering and can
> be easily cut to replace the bottle.
>
> Or just get a real strain relief like this:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Woodhead-36552-Safeway-Galvanized-Diameter/dp/B00271194G/ref=sr_1_43?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1397487912&sr=1-43&keywords=Woodhead+Cable+Strain+Relief
>
> Ron
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bob Giordano <mist@strans.org> wrote:
>
>> some more info to add to the conversation...
>>
>> a few stations are now around Missoula.  i think they are working well.
>> all the different companies have improved the air pump, to be more
>> durable.  air might be the most valuable asset of a fix it station.
>>
>> for a few years, we locked a few pumps up around town to bike racks.
>> they'd last up to a year.  we're a big fan of manual pumps instead of
>> compressors.
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>> Subject: RE: lube on fixit?
>> From:    "Andy Lageson" <andy@dero.com>
>> Date:    Tue, September 20, 2011 11:20 am
>> To:      "'Bob Giordano'" <mist@strans.org>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hi Bob, we will only be able to fasten a cable to something that has a
>> handle or loop on it.  The Triflow bottle won't work.
>>
>> Andy Kennedy Lageson
>> Sales Manager
>> andy@dero.com
>> Dero Bike Rack Co
>> 504 Malcolm Ave SE
>> Suite 100
>> Minneapolis, MN 55414
>> Tel: 612-359-0689 Ext. 105
>> Fax: 612-331-2731
>> www.dero.com
>> ? Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:19 AM
>> To: Andy Lageson
>> Subject: RE: lube on fixit?
>>
>> Perhaps there is a better way:  those little triflow bottles are ideal, as
>> they can be squeezed to dispense, and can be easily refilled.  Have you
>> ever done lube before on a fixit?  What do you think would be the best way
>> to have lube available?  (I'm going to offer our free cycle program
>> service
>> to people in missoula that get these fixits- we can go around and
>> refill/replace lube weekly I believe).
>>
>> -Bob Giordano, MIST
>>
>> Andy Lageson wrote:
>> > We have added the wrenches before especially the 15mm size.  If you can
>> > source a stainless steel dispenser and send me the weblink of exactly
>> what
>> > you want then we can order it and get it added to the fixit for you.  We
>> > would have to send it without lube in it though.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:53 AM
>> > To: Andy Lageson
>> > Subject: lube on fixit?
>> >
>> > Thanks Andy.  Have you added wrenches before for other people?
>> >
>> > And, how about adding chain lube?  I'm thinking a refillable small
>> > stainless steel dispenser of some kind, on a cable, like the wrenches.
>> >
>> > -Bob Giordano, MIST
>> >
>> > Andy Lageson wrote:
>> >> Hi Bob, the cost is $15.00 per wrench.  There is room to expand the
>> tool
>> >> set on each fixit so it would cost $45.00 total to add all three
>> >> wrenches.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Bob Giordano [mailto:mist@strans.org]
>> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:52 AM
>> >> To: web@dero.com; Andy
>> >> Subject: More wrenches on fixit?
>> >>
>> >> I am about to promote your air support and fix it station to many
>> >> people and groups in Missoula.  I talked with a rep of your company
>> >> about 3 weeks ago and am following up: can you add 13, 14 and 15mm
>> >> wrenches to the fixit station and how much would it add to the cost?
>> >> 13mm to adjust seat height, 14mm to adjust seat angle, 15mm for many
>> >> wheels.  Thanks, -Bob Giordano, Director, Free Cycles Missoula,
>> >> Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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