At our shop we decided a couple of months back to keep the vise grips off the toolboards for these reasons, but we still keep the crescent wrenches around because they tend to be good for bending metal, something we do on the regular for various reasons. We still keep the vise grips around, but in a drawer of specialized tools that keeps them out of sight. Your arguments above are actually pretty good for keeping the crescents off the toolboards as well. The idea isn't to forbid these tools or to lock them up, just to prevent them from being the first thing new participants grab when they start working on something.

Here are some haphazard shots of our toolboards which the organization/program has had for around twenty years. We probably should upgrade them but they work well enough. They're hinged and lock closed because back in the day tools got stolen all the time. Theft happens a lot less now, but the ability to close them makes them useful for portable application.

Josh, I think we have a couple extra empty ones laying around from years ago when we had a lot more sets (we only have three now, we used to have six). If you happen through this part of the state I'd be happy to pass one or two over to you. But honestly they aren't hard to make. Ours do have the advantage of a long history though :)

cyclista Nicholas


On 2018-01-16 14:25, Jean-François Caron wrote:

Smitty I tend to apply that logic to pliers & vice-grips too.  Bicycle
fasteners are usually standardized well-enough that adjustable
wrenches (other than the huge ones for headset locknuts maybe?),
pliers, and vice-grips are almost always a crutch for not knowing the
correct tool to use.  A lot of DIY-types get into the habit of using
pliers for any type of fastener.

That said, they should be available for weird cases, but guarded by a mechanic.

Jean-François

On Jan 16, 2018, at 07:12 , Smitty <smitty@bikeconcord.org> wrote:

I notice everyone has an adjustable wrench on their boards.  When I apprenticed in another trade I was taught not to use a crescent wrench.  When I build the board for our shop, I plan to leave the crescent wrench off of the board. Force the students to use the proper wrench.    Thoughts?

On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Josh Capps <thegoodtimesarekillingme@gmail.com <mailto:thegoodtimesarekillingme@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure this qualifies but a few years back I made a rolling tool board <https://simplicityvintagecycles.com/2012/07/26/a-little-housekeeping-storing-bike-tools-effectively/>. It may be useful for more dynamic or in transition shops.
I did end up making something more permanent eventually but this setup <https://simplicityvintagecycles.com/2016/08/07/the-home-bicycle-workshop/> is a bit much for a student situation.

Josh Capps
Portland, OR

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Sam Haraldson <sam@bozemanbikekitchen.org <mailto:sam@bozemanbikekitchen.org>> wrote:

Hey! We're going to redesign our tool boards soon, and want to look at yours for inspiration. Show 'em off! The winner of the most fly tool board gets a group serenade at B!B!

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​Bozeman Bike Kitchen - Bozeman, MT

We have a half dozen or so of these tables, each with color-coordinated tools, stand, pump, garbage/recycling, et al which makes it easy to see when something's missing or when someone doesn't know where something goes.  We copied the idea nearly verbatim from the good people down at the SLC Bike Collective.

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​SLC Bicycle Collective - Salt Lake City, UT

- Sam

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