We've had pretty good luck so far contacting companies directly and asking for discounts. Bell Helmets, Park Tools, and one other tool company have given us a specific price list of parts/tools we can order. I recall with one of them we had the opportunity to set up an account as a nonprofit bicycle group. I'll look up the information and post it here when i find it.
Vyki
I vote for this! Thanks for writing what I've been thinking Sasha.
Rich
Community Cycles
dragonfly@mac.hush.com wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Everyone. Stuart, I really like your idea about approaching QBP. My new seed catalogues have lovely icons telling me which seeds are heirloom varieties, which are organic, etc. They even have a pretty little snowflake to help people up in Northern Ontario pick seeds that can tolerate their conditions. It would be great if QBP's catalogue had icons for union/ fairtrade/ local/ etc. Asking existing suppliers/distributers if they could offer discounts makes more sense to me than creating an inefficient version of their infrastructure. While there are many super well organized people who work or play at Community Bike Shops, the idea of a warehouse and distrubition network run by the likes of us seems like a bad idea. Have you ever been at a meeting where people spend almost an hour discussing the way we should spell women/wimmin/wymyn? Our shops perform magical feats of bicycle relclamation and we contribute to improving neighbourhoods and to helping people feel competant and connected. Sometimes I feel as if my local CBS is saving the world one spiffed up junker at a time. I love us. But somehow I don't see us running a continental just-in-time delivery system for bike parts. Working together online to craft a proposal to pitch to QBP and any other suppliers or distributers seems doable. So does creating national or international (or perhaps just several regional) organization(s) of community bike shops for the purposes of getting good deals from suppliers, etc. Does anyone feel knowlegable enough about how it could work to draft something to circulate? Having a nice tangible thing or plan to discuss at this year's bikebike would be good. Sasha On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:55:25 -0400 Stuart O Anderson <soa@ri.cmu.edu> wrote:At Free Ride we have a purchasing policy that directs us to buy local, union, and sustainable products when they are available. If there were a distributor that could source parts the best complied with this policy I think we'd definitely be interested. Of course, this would be a huge undertaking for the person(s) that wanted to do it. I imagine one has to order in very large quantities>from manufacturers to be able to offer wholesale prices comparableto other distributors, and that the amount of cash tied up in stock at any given time is rather signficant. Having to rent or maintain a warehouse on top of that means that there's a minimum rate of consumption a distributor would need to maintain to avoid losing money. That rate is going to depend on the size of the niche market for community bike shops, and the assumption that other distributors wont alter their own policies to capture that market - it's not clear to me that there is enough demand, even combining all the major community bike shops into a single bloc, to solely support a single distribution operation. But that's just a guess and a real answer would require market research on the part of interested parties. It seems to me that QBP supplies most of the CBS's right now. Maybe someone should approach them about identifying and stocking products that conform to our purchasing policies (i.e. green/fair trade/us made/union made/etc icons in the catalog) and ask about discounts for non-profits promiting bicycle use? I'd think the best way for that to happen would be for several shops to work together to create a request that could be delivered on all our behalfs. Does this interest anyone - I'd be willing to help with such a project. Stuart _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 wkYEARECAAYFAkfZWyIACgkQ5O7ahKJmrRn6QwCgjEY8Yv9jCrTEuwN0AFmD8T8INdcA oKcYs3vpIhcQt4z7JnTJbYFdQIzs =6pQq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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