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1. Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Josh Bisker)
2. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Scott Long)
3. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Arlin Schaffel)
4. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Gabriel Trainer)
5. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Reno Bikes)
6. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (LaBikery)
7. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Shannon Southwood)
8. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Michael Young)
9. Re: Prices of New Cables and Housing? (Ainsley Naylor)
10. Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder
CO (Sue Prant)
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Subject: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for doing so per se?We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?We get ours from QBP in the box of 100. They cost us $0.33 cents each. We don't sell them directly to the public for the most part, but we use them in repairs and they go for $1 each. We reuse housing for the most part so the cost is almost nothing.On Sep 5, 2017 6:07 PM, "Josh Bisker" <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for doing so per se?We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again.We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at $1.00/cable & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it hasn't been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different clients than our local shops.Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and modified from there.Arlin SchaffelBridge City Bicycle Co-opOn Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for doing so per se?We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:30:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?
At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing:
Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members
Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot
We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils,
and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use.
Gabriel
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel
<arlin@bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > wrote:
> We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with
> proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again.
>
> We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at $1.00/cable
> & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it hasn't
> been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different clients
> than our local shops.
>
> Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the
> Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and
> modified from there.
>
>
> Arlin Schaffel
> Bridge City Bicycle Co-op
> http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com
> facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/
> twitter.com/the_bcbc
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you
>> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice
>> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for
>> doing so per se?
>>
>> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas
>> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
>>
>> Josh Bisker
>> 914-500-9890
>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op
>> 596 Acres
>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus
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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:55:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations accepted.On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer@bikefarm.org> wrote:At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing:
Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members
Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot
We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils,
and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use.
Gabriel
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel
<arlin@bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > wrote:
> We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with
> proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again.
>
> We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at $1.00/cable
> & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it hasn't
> been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different clients
> than our local shops.
>
> Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the
> Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and
> modified from there.
>
>
> Arlin Schaffel
> Bridge City Bicycle Co-op
> http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com
> facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/
> twitter.com/the_bcbc
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you
>> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice
>> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for
>> doing so per se?
>>
>> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas
>> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
>>
>> Josh Bisker
>> 914-500-9890
>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op
>> 596 Acres
>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus
>>
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing.Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing.We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order more so they'll likely go up a tad soon).Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry about money as a barrier to repairs.KrystaOn Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations accepted.On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer@bikefarm.org> wrote:At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing:
Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members
Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot
We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils,
and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use.
Gabriel
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel
<arlin@bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > wrote:
> We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with
> proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again.
>
> We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at $1.00/cable
> & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it hasn't
> been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different clients
> than our local shops.
>
> Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the
> Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and
> modified from there.
>
>
> Arlin Schaffel
> Bridge City Bicycle Co-op
> http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com
> facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/
> twitter.com/the_bcbc
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you
>> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice
>> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for
>> doing so per se?
>>
>> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas
>> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
>>
>> Josh Bisker
>> 914-500-9890
>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op
>> 596 Acres
>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus
>>
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Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 09:21:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?At Sac Bike Kitchen, we also do $2/each for cables and $1/ft for housing with used cables and housing being free. We used to not allow cables and housing sales for projects outside the shop but recently changed this as our contacts at the local bike shops made pretty clear what we do doesn't effect them in any appreciable way. It probably helps that our hours are limited and we are usually open when they are closed...-ShannonOn Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:04 AM, LaBikery <labikery@gmail.com> wrote:We also don't re-use old cables/housing (however sometimes people will still grab it from our recycle bin). Typically we explain why it's better to use new (as Arlin explained). If people can't afford the price we have a Fund set aside that and we'll give them new cables/housing.Our prices are $1.50 per cable, and $1/ft for housing.We stick pretty hard to keeping our prices at a 50% markup from our supplier so that it's a fair market price. (Our prices are set at cables we bought quite a few years ago when we did a big order...we have to order more so they'll likely go up a tad soon).Because we have a fund put aside for folks that can't afford parts it means that people can pay-what-they-can or not at all. We don't advertise that fund really but we let anyone know when they come in not to worry about money as a barrier to repairs.KrystaOn Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 19:55 Reno Bikes <renobikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:At Reno Bike Project we do pretty much just like Bike Farm, above. $2/cable and $1/foot of housing. Used cables and housing are free/donations accepted.On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Gabriel Trainer <getrainer@bikefarm.org> wrote:At Bike Farm we charge the following for new cable/housing:
Cables, brake or shifter $2 for non-member, $1.50 for members
Cable Housing, brake or shift $1 per foot
We save old housing and cables in a large plastic container in coils,
and we do not charge for them. Free for everyone to use.
Gabriel
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Arlin Schaffel
<arlin@bridgecitybicyclecoop.com > wrote:
> We don't keep old housing / cables as we've had problems in the past with
> proper storage and also just generally being too rusted to use again.
>
> We have a suggested donations list and currently have cables at $1.00/cable
> & housing at $0.50/ft. This is definitely undercutting shops but it hasn't
> been an issue for us thus far. Possibly due to us serving different clients
> than our local shops.
>
> Attached is our Suggested Price List. I believe we started with the
> Suggested Donation list from the Bike Dump in Winnipeg (thanks!) and
> modified from there.
>
>
> Arlin Schaffel
> Bridge City Bicycle Co-op
> http://bridgecitybicyclecoop.com
> facebook.com/bridgecitybicyclecoop/
> twitter.com/the_bcbc
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Josh Bisker <jbisker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, how do folks price their new cables and housing? And howzabout you
>> recycled cables and housing? Is this an area in which it's ok to underprice
>> the retail markup of commercial shops, and if so what's the rationale for
>> doing so per se?
>>
>> We have our FIRST EVER batch of new cables and there are a number of ideas
>> about how to price them. Help us with your wisdom, fam.
>>
>> Josh Bisker
>> 914-500-9890
>> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op
>> 596 Acres
>> Bindlestiff Family Cirkus
>>
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?<SNIP>Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life.<SNIP>
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Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Prices of New Cables and Housing?@ Bike Pirates we have always sold cable assemblies (cable, housing, ferrules/caps) as a unit, rather than having to figure our how much housing each participant has used. Our price has been $5 for as long as I can remember and applies to both brake and shift lines.Ainsley.On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Michael Young <michael@westtownbikes.org> wrote:<SNIP>Used cables are fine to re-use as long as they are in good condition. Cables from the rear can often move to the front and live a longer life.<SNIP>
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Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:25:26 -0600
Subject: [TheThinkTank] Hiring an Education Coordinator at Community Cycles, Boulder COEducation Coordinator Job Description
Purpose:
The Education Coordinator manages the Earn a Bike (EAB) program, coordinates the Complete Mechanic Series (CMS), and conducts occasional other workshops at and on behalf of Community Cycles. Reports to: Community Cycles Sales and Service Manager
Education/ Experience/ Specific Knowledge:1 + years bike mechanic experience. 1+ years teaching experience. Excellent communication skills. Excellent organization skills. Hours per week: 15-20
Responsibilities: EAB
Facilitate EAB program participants’ progress through the program by resolving problems, responding to questions, answering all inquiries and getting participants their bikes
Coordinates with employees and volunteers working on web site and Salesforce to make sure class times and descriptions are accurate.
Enters participants into Salesforce when necessary
Track TANF and other paperwork associated with EABers.
Opens up EAB waiting list (when there is one) and notifies people on list
Continually review the EAB process to ensure it functions smoothly and cost effectively while remaining relevant, engaging and worthwhile to participants.
Keep Community Cycles members, volunteers and staff informed about EAB through the newsletter and staff meetings
Distribute surveys and review participant feedback for improvements to the process, workshop curriculums, materials and props.
Keep the EAB and CMS program consistent with the Community Cycles community service goals.
Maintain order in the weekly teaching props bins
Maintain a sufficient supply of new helmets for EAB graduates. Coordinate delivery with Boulder Community Hospital.
Continually review EAB reports in Salesforce to maintain accuracy.
Responsibilities: CMS
Coordination of the CMS Series and Park Tool School
Coordinate scheduling for class series and instructors
Insure that all CMS props are ready at the beginning of each series
Other Responsibilities
Coordinate dates for workshops and CMS with the Instructor Corps to insure adequate coverage.
Coordinate the delivery of Adult Maintenance 101 and Fix-a-Flat workshops for UCAR, BVSD and Boulder County.
Maintain the Education Station and insure handout bins are adequately supplied. Insure handouts are current and relevant
Attend monthly staff meetings and others as required.
Provide the Community Cycles Manager, Executive Director and Membership Director with monthly performance reports.
Compensation/ Benefits:
Hourly rate starting at $13 - $15 with a raise after 6 months. PTO after 6 months. IRA match after 2 years. Flexible work environment and time-off.
Send cover letter and resume to : manager@communitycycles.org.
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