Thanks for everyone's thoughtful feedback on the Women/Queer spaces. I appreciate the legacy and learning that each of you has shared about.
I plan to follow up with some of you individually and appreciate the very unique situation of every shop.
Best, Tegan
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:13 PM, < thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote:
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- Re: Women, Trans, Non-binary Shop Times (Cynthia Williams)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cynthia Williams communications@bikecoop.ca To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 12:53:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Women, Trans, Non-binary Shop Times Hey all,
I coordinate a Women & Queer Night and an LGBTQ2I Night at the Bike Kitchen (UBC) in Vancouver. I am a nonbinary queer femme.
Women's nights need to be trans inclusive because trans women are women, full stop. Not including trans women and other femme identities is exclusionary. There are also a myriad of queer identities that also tend to get marginalized in bro-y bike spaces, which is why a lot of shops do a version of a Women & Queer Night. It's about accessibility and inclusion for more identities than just cis women and cis men.
We started the LGBTQ2I Night too because we have the capacity to hold a night that's just for queer folk. Queer folks do need their own spaces that don't have cis/het folks, and as Sunny said, we wanted to collaborate with the Pride Collective that we share a campus with.
I hope this helps.
- Cyn
*Cynthia Williams * *Communications Coordinator* AMS Bike Co-op University of British Columbia 604-822-BIKE | bikecoop.ca | @ubcbike
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Matthew McMunn matthew@therecyclery.org wrote:
Hello All, The Recyclery Collective in Chicago is planning a regular Women/Trans/Femme night. I think some recent developments might interest you. Chicago has a bike organization called "Women Bike Chicago." We offered a discount code to WBC for all of our classes as an attempt to promote our classes and support the women mechanics in learning and leadership in the Chicago scene. This lead to WBC offering to assist us with planning AND staffing our new program. This solves the problem of shifting our women volunteers and leaders away from our other programs, which would then likely become more male dominated. It is seriously problematic when women get saddled with the majority of the labor of working out diversity problems. I'm hopeful about the power of this new collaboration. Matthew
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:43 PM christopher@holisticcycles.com wrote:
As a CIS male instructor, I have invited women to take my classes for free if they promised to teach other women. I taught them beside males and in women only settings. If a man went over to help a woman, I allow the additional teaching to occur, then I would tell the male to undo the procedure and let the woman do it successfully on her own. In my classes Men are allow to teach but not do. I like more people because they ask more detailed questions and make me explain more in depth in my teaching.
Six Sigma has taught me that the bike is not the focus of the conversation in sales of service, parts, accessories, garments, or bikes. The cyclist ride experience and how to improve it, is everything. Please think about the last sentence for a few months.
Women have been my best mechanics, and believed the contrary. Men* believe* they know it all, and know nothing. Getting women to know they are the best mechanics, and the best sales of service is the next level of teaching. The cyclist ride experience and how to improve it, is everything. What you have between your legs, better be a bike,
Christopher Wallace Bicycle Guild 773 490 0683 <(773)%20490-0683> Oak Park, IL. 60304 Chicago
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TheThinkTank] Women, Trans, Non-binary Shop Times From: "Tegan Moss [B!KE]" director@communitybikeshop.org Date: Wed, March 29, 2017 12:07 pm To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
Hi All,
After 10 years of teaching time that serves everyone B!KE is finally endeavoring to carve out a space just for women! We have often managed to strike a pretty excellent gender balance in the shop but interestingly recent growth has the shop feeling very male dominated. We are adding a bunch of hours for the on season and planning to make some of that time specifically for women.
As a cis-gendered female mechanic, I feel pretty confident about hosting space, and defending the need of a space, that is for women only. I know that many other shops combine their women only time with trans/non-binary/femme time and I am feeling a bit concerned about a few things. How do you addresses these things:
- Why combine these two groups? Don't they have different needs?
- Do trans & non-binary people get their needs met? Or are they still
second to women? 3) How much time is spent explaining gender identity and pronouns to baby boomers? 4) Is it better to have a women only time that excludes trans folks OR a women, trans, non-binary night that sort of includes them all?
The language I am currently leaning toward is that this shop time is for "all women-identified people". I am curious what issues and resolutions have been found in other shops.
Please share with me about your knowledge and experience in this matter!
Best, Tegan
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