Hi Folks,

Thanks for the observations.

I'm going to ask for double doors, a 36" and a 24", out-swinging. I like the idea of being inviting, having room for big projects, and we're going to be particularly conspicuous. For winter, the 36" door will be fine for getting bikes in and out.

The whole front of the building is an old storefront and single-pane glass(some is boarded up). They are replacing all of it with insulated glass, and the door space is kinda whatever we want.

Pic attached. We are getting the right side of the basement, about 2000s.f. The other side is going to be for other nonprofits.

Thanks and good health, Weogo

On 8/31/25 10:31 PM, cyclista--- via TheThinkTank wrote:

Sup Weogo,

Double doors are really nice for equipment ingress/egress, and they're also quite nice for events in terms of being inviting - think lots of activity in Summer.

I understand your interest in a single door though. Single doors can also be less conspicuous; I've seen more than a few CBS that try deliberately to be a secret spot, and that's cool too.

If a really big single door swings, you may have issues with clearance in traffic areas, whereas double doors will open wider while having a smaller footprint.

A really large sliding single door could be an option for offering a lot of clearance without encumbering traffic.

~cyclista Nicholas

On 2025-09-01 02:05, weogo--- via TheThinkTank wrote:

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Hi Folks,

Our new bike shop, Pigeon River Bikes, in Haywood County, North Carolina, is moving in to an old building that’s being renovated. The owners will install a new entry door for us, and it can be double doors or a single, wide door.  I’m thinking one, big door will be a good choice.  Bigger is better, up to the point where it’s hard to deal with.  If you had your choice, would you prefer a 36”, 40” or other size door width?

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We did a double door and it was a game changer for accessibility and creating a more inviting space. Each door is 40" wide. Pix are attached.

We found reclaimed oak wood doors, and added our own double pane windows, with some wood trim. They swing out, per code and best practices (in case people need to leave quickly for fire or other reason).

We did not do a mullion (the vertical piece common between double doors). We did not want that middle post as a blockage.

One door has a flush bolt into the top of the door frame, and a foot bolt into the floor. The second door deadbolts to the first.

Leading to the entry doors, We also made a wood deck with reclaimed lumber (not treated with chemicals. we torched the bottoms of the short wood posts instead) and a natural wood awning (no tyvek, tar paper or any of that nasty stuff).

We put a sign and light above the doors, and a touch pad dead bolt lock. It was a big project, as the wall we put the door into is structural. Very worth it. We raised some funds and also traded bike gear to some carpenters.

It's sort of on the corner/ front side of our building- longer term we want a big double door on the street side, yet that would have been a bigger challenge, as the front sidewalk does not have a lot of width, and we needed/wanted to meet ADA code for wheel chairs, with a ramp and not stairs.

We often have both doors open (most of the year, even here in Montana); we close one door when it's cold or windy. We installed closers, with adjustments... and we're looking at some touchless systems for ease of opening too.

Bob Giordano, Director, Free Cycles Missoula, www.freecycles.org, 406.541.7284, Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation, www.strans.org

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [TheThinkTank] Re: entry door(s) Date: 2025-09-01 10:47 am From: Weogo Reed via TheThinkTank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the observations.

I'm going to ask for double doors, a 36" and a 24", out-swinging. I like the idea of being inviting, having room for big projects, and we're going to be particularly conspicuous. For winter, the 36" door will be fine for getting bikes in and out.

The whole front of the building is an old storefront and single-pane glass(some is boarded up). They are replacing all of it with insulated glass, and the door space is kinda whatever we want.

Pic attached. We are getting the right side of the basement, about 2000s.f. The other side is going to be for other nonprofits.

Thanks and good health, Weogo

On 8/31/25 10:31 PM, cyclista--- via TheThinkTank wrote:

Sup Weogo,

Double doors are really nice for equipment ingress/egress, and they're also quite nice for events in terms of being inviting - think lots of activity in Summer.

I understand your interest in a single door though. Single doors can also be less conspicuous; I've seen more than a few CBS that try deliberately to be a secret spot, and that's cool too.

If a really big single door swings, you may have issues with clearance in traffic areas, whereas double doors will open wider while having a smaller footprint.

A really large sliding single door could be an option for offering a lot of clearance without encumbering traffic.

~cyclista Nicholas

On 2025-09-01 02:05, weogo--- via TheThinkTank wrote:

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Hi Folks,

Our new bike shop, Pigeon River Bikes, in Haywood County, North Carolina, is moving in to an old building that’s being renovated. The owners will install a new entry door for us, and it can be double doors or a single, wide door.  I’m thinking one, big door will be a good choice.  Bigger is better, up to the point where it’s hard to deal with.  If you had your choice, would you prefer a 36”, 40” or other size door width?

Thanks and good health,  Weogo

One 40" door. How wide is the opening where the door will live? 2) 36" doors would be cool whereas 2) 30" would be a pain and 2) 28" doors maddening.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 11:04 PM angel york via TheThinkTank < thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote:

double wide! more accessible. you never know when someone is going to want to build a super weird bike that won't fit through a standard single door.

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Hi Folks,

Our new bike shop, Pigeon River Bikes, in Haywood County, North Carolina, is moving in to an old building that’s being renovated. The owners will install a new entry door for us, and it can be double doors or a single, wide door. I’m thinking one, big door will be a good choice. Bigger is better, up to the point where it’s hard to deal with. If you had your choice, would you prefer a 36”, 40” or other size door width?

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Double door at least 48” to 60” open

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On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 3:41 PM Edward Stewart via TheThinkTank < thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote:

Just so it fits trikes. Sent from my iPhone

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On Aug 31, 2025, at 10:06 PM, weogo--- via TheThinkTank <

thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> wrote:

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Hi Folks,

Our new bike shop, Pigeon River Bikes, in Haywood County, North

Carolina, is moving in to an old building that’s being renovated.

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The owners will install a new entry door for us, and it can be double

doors or a single, wide door. I’m thinking one, big door will be a good choice. Bigger is better, up to the point where it’s hard to deal with. If you had your choice, would you prefer a 36”, 40” or other size door width?

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