Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure this? If
we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need to cap
it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
I'd like info on this as well. Recycle Ithaca's bicycles doesn't currently have a riding component, though we used to years ago. Even when we did have one it didn't work all that well. So I also think it would be nice to hear how other people structure their riding programs, and what the foci are.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-13 22:53, bike club wrote:
Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure this?
If we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding
skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need to
cap it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
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I would consider partnering with a League Certified Instructor in your area, or CyclingSavvy (http://cyclingsavvy.org/). Also keep in mind that your liability insurance might not cover organized rides - check on that so you're not putting the group at risk. And as many of you know, youth programs may also require different coverage, along with obviously different teaching skills.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub www.rockvillebikehub.org
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:57 PM, cyclista@inventati.org wrote:
I'd like info on this as well. Recycle Ithaca's bicycles doesn't currently have a riding component, though we used to years ago. Even when we did have one it didn't work all that well. So I also think it would be nice to hear how other people structure their riding programs, and what the foci are.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-13 22:53, bike club wrote:
Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure this? If
we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need to cap
it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
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At Charlie's Freewheels we have incorporated riding skills into our build-a-bike program over the past few years. Here is what that currently looks like:
Our BAB program is 9-10 session (depending on holidays/illness etc.) one session includes 1-1.5 hours of in-class Road Safety discussion and activities Our final session is a RIDING session. This day includes helmets (fit, safety, and handing them out), handling skills which we do in a parking lot or on a basketball court, and a short group ride to ensure no one is unable to properly control their bikes.
Folks are encouraged to come back and join us for group rides which we used to do weekly, but we severely under-attended and created a frustrating workload for the person taking them on.
In our Summer day programs (Monday-Friday 10-3 for 2 weeks) we spend even more time on handling skills and road safety. We spend at last 2 hours in-class, as well as most of the final 2 days being handling skills and 2 group rides. We also ride further and are able to demonstrate more bicycle infrastructure during these sessions.
This year we are re-jigging our ride program to be more structured (rather than drop-in group rides) and to include more learn-to-ride content. I can't speak specifically to this but we can report back on it once we have the programs running!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I would consider partnering with a League Certified Instructor in your area, or CyclingSavvy (http://cyclingsavvy.org/). Also keep in mind that your liability insurance might not cover organized rides - check on that so you're not putting the group at risk. And as many of you know, youth programs may also require different coverage, along with obviously different teaching skills.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub www.rockvillebikehub.org
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:57 PM, cyclista@inventati.org wrote:
I'd like info on this as well. Recycle Ithaca's bicycles doesn't currently have a riding component, though we used to years ago. Even when we did have one it didn't work all that well. So I also think it would be nice to hear how other people structure their riding programs, and what the foci are.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-13 22:53, bike club wrote:
Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure this?
If we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need to
cap it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
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Thanks for the feedback so far folks! It would still be awesome to hear from folks who have hosted open community youth rides on a drop in basis.
Ainsley, for your group rides, are all folks who are welcome to participate youth who have already participated in your program who already have had their riding skills ok-ed and turned in consent forms when they did the program? If so, that is awesome, though I suppose a bit different from being the sort of open to youth community ride I was imagining.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.com wrote:
At Charlie's Freewheels we have incorporated riding skills into our build-a-bike program over the past few years. Here is what that currently looks like:
Our BAB program is 9-10 session (depending on holidays/illness etc.) one session includes 1-1.5 hours of in-class Road Safety discussion and activities Our final session is a RIDING session. This day includes helmets (fit, safety, and handing them out), handling skills which we do in a parking lot or on a basketball court, and a short group ride to ensure no one is unable to properly control their bikes.
Folks are encouraged to come back and join us for group rides which we used to do weekly, but we severely under-attended and created a frustrating workload for the person taking them on.
In our Summer day programs (Monday-Friday 10-3 for 2 weeks) we spend even more time on handling skills and road safety. We spend at last 2 hours in-class, as well as most of the final 2 days being handling skills and 2 group rides. We also ride further and are able to demonstrate more bicycle infrastructure during these sessions.
This year we are re-jigging our ride program to be more structured (rather than drop-in group rides) and to include more learn-to-ride content. I can't speak specifically to this but we can report back on it once we have the programs running!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I would consider partnering with a League Certified Instructor in your area, or CyclingSavvy (http://cyclingsavvy.org/). Also keep in mind that your liability insurance might not cover organized rides - check on that so you're not putting the group at risk. And as many of you know, youth programs may also require different coverage, along with obviously different teaching skills.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub www.rockvillebikehub.org
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:57 PM, cyclista@inventati.org wrote:
I'd like info on this as well. Recycle Ithaca's bicycles doesn't currently have a riding component, though we used to years ago. Even when we did have one it didn't work all that well. So I also think it would be nice to hear how other people structure their riding programs, and what the foci are.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-13 22:53, bike club wrote:
Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure this?
If we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding
skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need to
cap it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
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cyclista Ainsley,
-What's your demographic at Charlie's in terms of geography and income?
-Are your participants urban, suburban, rural?
-Income background?
-Other than a parking lot, what kind of terrain do group rides cover?
-How long have you been experimenting with these rides?
and
-What are the age ranges you tend to work with?
Thanks a lot for supplying info!
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-17 00:42, bike club wrote:
Thanks for the feedback so far folks! It would still be awesome to hear from folks who have hosted open community youth rides on a drop in basis.
Ainsley, for your group rides, are all folks who are welcome to participate youth who have already participated in your program who already have had their riding skills ok-ed and turned in consent forms when they did the program? If so, that is awesome, though I suppose a bit different from being the sort of open to youth community ride I was imagining.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.com wrote:
At Charlie's Freewheels we have incorporated riding skills into our build-a-bike program over the past few years. Here is what that currently looks like:
Our BAB program is 9-10 session (depending on holidays/illness etc.) one session includes 1-1.5 hours of in-class Road Safety discussion and activities Our final session is a RIDING session. This day includes helmets (fit, safety, and handing them out), handling skills which we do in a parking lot or on a basketball court, and a short group ride to ensure no one is unable to properly control their bikes.
Folks are encouraged to come back and join us for group rides which we used to do weekly, but we severely under-attended and created a frustrating workload for the person taking them on.
In our Summer day programs (Monday-Friday 10-3 for 2 weeks) we spend even more time on handling skills and road safety. We spend at last 2 hours in-class, as well as most of the final 2 days being handling skills and 2 group rides. We also ride further and are able to demonstrate more bicycle infrastructure during these sessions.
This year we are re-jigging our ride program to be more structured (rather than drop-in group rides) and to include more learn-to-ride content. I can't speak specifically to this but we can report back on it once we have the programs running!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:57 AM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I would consider partnering with a League Certified Instructor in your area, or CyclingSavvy (http://cyclingsavvy.org/). Also keep in mind that your liability insurance might not cover organized rides - check on that so you're not putting the group at risk. And as many of you know, youth programs may also require different coverage, along with obviously different teaching skills.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub www.rockvillebikehub.org
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:57 PM, cyclista@inventati.org wrote:
I'd like info on this as well. Recycle Ithaca's bicycles doesn't currently have a riding component, though we used to years ago. Even when we did have one it didn't work all that well. So I also think it would be nice to hear how other people structure their riding programs, and what the foci are.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-02-13 22:53, bike club wrote:
Hey Folks,
We are hoping to create a riding/ road skills component to our drop-in youth shop program and I am wondering about the logistics/legalities of how to approach this!
For over six month now we've been hosting a drop-in shop program as a collaboration between Pedal Society and Kickstand community bikes one afternoon a week where teens can drop in and get free support servicing their bikes, volunteer on shop projects to learn mechanics skills, and volunteer as part of our earn a bike program.In an effort to make the program as low barrier as possible we have left it as a drop in program vs. having a formal sign up, etc. The drop in is slowly growing a devoted crew of regulars. YAY!
It has come to our attention that many teens, especially those who have not previously had access to a bike, do not have competency navigating the roads safely. In an effort to remedy this and build road skills and riding into our program, our thought is to make one week of the month our teen community ride and another day our road skills learning in the parking lot. It seems like hosting a road skills/riding session as a drop-in, with different people showing up every week would come with a host of challenges and complexities.
Right now, our best idea, is that youth who will be leaving the parking lot with us on monthly rides will need a consent form and to have demonstrated a certain aptitude for riding. We're not exactly sure how to test for this or how exactly to go about teaching road skills on a drop in basis on a different monthly day while other folks are in the shop with the other instructor. How can we build on road skills when different people may show up every week?
Therefore, my associated questions are:
- Structure: Does anyone have any feedback on how to structure
this? If we have different youth coming in all the time, it's kind of hard to build on road skills that take more than one day to teach
- is it feasible to have a drop in program that teaches riding
skills?
- If many teenagers want to come on a community ride, do we need
to cap it like a formal program (2 instructors per 10 youth) or is there a way to facilitate a larger more open community ride?
I'd love to hear any feedback folks have for how to make this happen.
Woohoo!
Sarah
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