Re: [TheThinkTank] Bike Shop in a Box
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Hi, Everyone.
I love reading everyone's posts.
Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating a
good bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People we
know were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, this time
in the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends of mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about how
important my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike shapes my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the ones
from the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my bike everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical. In
others, they could be made into a more functional option for day-to- day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support them- a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get a
big rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be easy to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--
have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make this
economical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box' as a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this right
now. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if you know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
Sasha
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine the positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot of what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art and you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
Also there's less risk that the name will be already taken.
-- Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-
bikecollectives.org
-- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801
Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00
Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org
Hi Sasha,
We worked with Bicycles For Humanity to help send a bike shop in a box to Africa. Here is a link to a page on our website (which includes a link to their's):
http://www.re-cycles.ca/bfh2007.html
Perhaps they would be interested in doing something similar more locally.
Chris
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Hi, Everyone. I love reading everyone's posts. Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating agood bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People weknow were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, this timein the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends of mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about howimportant my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike shapes my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the onesfrom the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my bike everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical. Inothers, they could be made into a more functional option for day-to- day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support them- a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get abig rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be easy to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make thiseconomical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box' as a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this rightnow. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if you know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
SashaOn Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine the positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot of what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art and you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
Also there's less risk that the name will be already taken.
-- Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-
bikecollectives.org
-- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801
Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00
Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org
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It might be most affordable and easiest to get a complete toolset from one of the big bike tool companies (via a distributor or a sympathetic local bike shop). Here's what Park Toolhttp://www.parktool.com/products/category.asp?cat=6has, for example. The backpack is a nice idea, but, in my experience, structurally hard to deal with. I would add to your set a bunch of hard line tools, which are easy to get donated. Tons of people have metric box wrenches lying around in their garages.
Our wiki http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tools has some excellent ideas about stocking tools.
Good luck!
rachael
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM, dragonfly@mac.hush.com wrote:
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Hi, Everyone. I love reading everyone's posts. Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating agood bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People weknow were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, this timein the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends of mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about howimportant my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike shapes my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the onesfrom the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my bike everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical. Inothers, they could be made into a more functional option for day-to- day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support them- a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get abig rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be easy to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make thiseconomical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box' as a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this rightnow. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if you know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
SashaOn Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine the positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot of what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art and you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
Also there's less risk that the name will be already taken.
-- Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-
bikecollectives.org
-- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801
Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00
Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org
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United Bicycle Parts has a pretty nice looking "mix and match" tool set with items from a variety of different tool makers = around $200, if I remember right, and maybe around 50 pieces with the most critical stuff (spline tools, chainbreaker, lockring wrench etc.) being shop quality stuff. Might be a good place to start.
best, Colin - Durham Bike Co-op
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM, dragonfly@mac.hush.com wrote:
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Hi, Everyone. I love reading everyone's posts. Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating agood bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People weknow were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, this timein the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends of mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about howimportant my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike shapes my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the onesfrom the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my bike everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical. Inothers, they could be made into a more functional option for day-to- day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support them- a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get abig rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be easy to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make thiseconomical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box' as a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this rightnow. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if you know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
SashaOn Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine the positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot of what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art and you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
Also there's less risk that the name will be already taken.
-- Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-
bikecollectives.org
-- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801
Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00
Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org
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The Kickstand sets up a repair stand at our local farmers market and any events we get involved in. This is currently what most of our outreach program consists of. We carry a portable stand, a 4x2 folding table, an Ez-up, a tool set, and consumables. We've been doing this for a very short while, but the idea is that we have a "market box", a tool box that is set aside, always ready to go with a good set of tools (we're still working on exactly what a good set of tools is), that is not used during regular shop hours. We just started bringing consumables, patches, cables... and are still hammering out exactly what to bring. And of course we always have some literature on hand, and usually bring some of the bright orange safety vest the county bicycle/pedestrian advisory board gave us to pass out.
Our only issue currently is that we toss of of this in the back of a pickup truck! We are hopefully soon going to have the resources to build a trailer (a member is purchasing welding equipment), but don;t as of yet have any plans.
Anyone have plans for a good (verylarge) bike trailer?
vyki
www.thekickstand.org
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Durham Bike Co-op durhambikecoop@gmail.com wrote:
United Bicycle Parts has a pretty nice looking "mix and match" tool set with items from a variety of different tool makers = around $200, if I remember right, and maybe around 50 pieces with the most critical stuff (spline tools, chainbreaker, lockring wrench etc.) being shop quality stuff. Might be a good place to start.
best, Colin - Durham Bike Co-op
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM, dragonfly@mac.hush.com wrote:
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Hi, Everyone. I love reading everyone's posts. Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating agood bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People weknow were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, this timein the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends of mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about howimportant my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike shapes my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the onesfrom the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my bike everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical. Inothers, they could be made into a more functional option for day-to- day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support them- a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get abig rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be easy to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make thiseconomical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box' as a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this rightnow. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if you know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
SashaOn Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project Wilmington, DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine the positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot of what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art and you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
Also there's less risk that the name will be already taken.
-- Rafael Cletero Project Coordinator Fort Collins Bicycle Co-op ph (970) 484 38 04 www.fcbikecoop.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-
bikecollectives.org
-- Urban Bike Project of Wilmington 1908 N. Market Street (entrance is in the parking lot behind the building) Wilmington, DE 19801
Hours: Thursday 6:30-9:00 Saturday 1:00-4:00
Visit us online at http://urbanbikeproject.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank- bikecollectives.org
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From our director's web page: http://www.drumbent.com/trailer.html
The kit I based my hockey bag hauling cargo trailer on: http://www.drumbent.com/trailer.html
Chris --- Vyki Englert vyki.englert@thekickstand.org wrote:
The Kickstand sets up a repair stand at our local farmers market and any events we get involved in. This is currently what most of our outreach program consists of. We carry a portable stand, a 4x2 folding table, an Ez-up, a tool set, and consumables. We've been doing this for a very short while, but the idea is that we have a "market box", a tool box that is set aside, always ready to go with a good set of tools (we're still working on exactly what a good set of tools is), that is not used during regular shop hours. We just started bringing consumables, patches, cables... and are still hammering out exactly what to bring. And of course we always have some literature on hand, and usually bring some of the bright orange safety vest the county bicycle/pedestrian advisory board gave us to pass out.
Our only issue currently is that we toss of of this in the back of a pickup truck! We are hopefully soon going to have the resources to build a trailer (a member is purchasing welding equipment), but don;t as of yet have any plans.
Anyone have plans for a good (verylarge) bike trailer?
vyki
www.thekickstand.org
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Durham Bike Co-op durhambikecoop@gmail.com wrote:
United Bicycle Parts has a pretty nice looking "mix and match" tool
set
with items from a variety of different tool makers = around $200,
if I
remember right, and maybe around 50 pieces with the most critical
stuff
(spline tools, chainbreaker, lockring wrench etc.) being shop
quality stuff.
Might be a good place to start.
best, Colin - Durham Bike Co-op
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM, dragonfly@mac.hush.com wrote:
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Hi, Everyone. I love reading everyone's posts. Thanks to the people who have written to me about creating agood bike plan for the Detroit-Windsor region.
This past weekend, I was talking with some people. People weknow were attending the UN Indigenous People's climate change meeting in New York, and we were talking about some things.
My friends and I were talking about climate change, thistime
in the context of the aboriginal communities that these friends
of
mine come from. It was a long and interesting conversation.
For a little part of it, I talked about bikes, and about howimportant my bike was to me in Detroit and about how my bike
shapes
my world view and my thoughts about community planning, etc.
They all drive trucks, these friends of mine, even the onesfrom the city, and they think I'm a little nuts for riding my
bike
everywhere, but they could also see an increased potential for bikes in some of their communities.
In some of their communities, bikes are not so practical.In
others, they could be made into a more functional option for
day-to-
day practical use, if there was an infrastructure to support
them-
a place to get bikes, a place to go to repair them, etc.
We wondered about a "Bike Shop in a Box"-- could you get abig rubbermaid tub and put a whole bike shop into it? (Maybe two tubs plus a stand?) Could you make such a thing that would be
easy
to ship North or into the B.C. interior, by train or plane etc.?
Do the people from "Bikes Not Bombs" know how to do this--have some of you done this before? Is there a good way of doing this already known?
What should go into the box, and how could we make thiseconomical-- is there an economy of scale-- how many Boxed Shops would you need to create to get a good deal on the tools, do you think? Would suppliers be interested in creating a 'Shop in Box'
as
a product to offer through their catalogue, even?
We're just thinking about the feasibility of this rightnow. For lots of reasons, it might be a dumb or unworkable idea, but one worth checking out. If any of you have done this, or if
you
know what the best things to put into the box are, please e-mail me.
SashaOn Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:56:20 -0400 "Urban Bike Project
Wilmington,
DE" urbanbikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
"we still have the Bike Against! stencil and about ten different colors of spray paint..."
Rafael, is that why you changed your name? I can only imagine
the
positive message this has spread in Fort Collins...
Jennifer,
I think you want a name that instantly gives people a snapshot
of
what you do. Mike's comment rings pretty true. Often people will
call
or email about donating bikes and then ask what it is exactly that
we
do. If you do bikes and art call it something with bikes and art
and
you'll be set. The Bike Gallery or something innocent. BICAS' name is pretty cool and explanatory.
Once you pick it, stick with it. Like Rafael said, your shops actions/quality are more important than the name.
Brian
On 4/28/08, bike against bikeagainst@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Jennifer and all, Rafael from Fort Collins,CO here...
I agree with Rachel, keep it simple...
I believe the name does not make the project, the PROJECT
makes
the name,
just like band names, as long as the music is good people will
dig the
name...
In our case, for the first four years our project was known as
the Bike
Against ! collective or Co-op and due to our current situation
we are now
just called The Fort Collins Bike Co-op... yeah,is not
radical
but it
doesn't have to be. We still have the same ideals and
philosophy
that gave
birth to the organization and again, the quality of your work
is
ALL that
matters in the end.
By changing our name we were able to have access to a lot more
resources
and therefore help a lot more people.
As for the militant riders out there,who believe that riding
a
bicycle as
main or ONLY means of transportation is also an act of
political
expression
and resistance,we still have the Bike Against! stencil and
about
ten
different colors of spray paint...
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Vyki Englert