Re: [TheThinkTank] Community Partners Bike Library
Hi Jason,
Congratulations. The City of Boulder is looking to start a public paid bike program--similar to Velib in Paris, most likely-- sometime soon. They've scheduled a roundtable discussion about it next week, I believe.
I won't be at the meeting with the city, but I was at a previous, not-open-to-the-public meeting with some city staff, when we went over concerns about a potential project here.
We did a little research, and I wasn't convinced--nor am I now--that these programs are sustainable in a long term way (more than 2 or 3 years.) I think the maintenance and transport of bikes (from the bottoms of hills to the tops) is more expensive than the program can bring or has brought in any previous program that I'm aware of.
Of course, if I'm wrong, I would ABSOLUTELY love to hear about success stories. I'm not talking about first or second generation public bike programs. "First generation" would be the traditional "free bike" programs, where bikes are fixed and just left around busy places for people to use for free. "Second generation" public bike programs are the ones where you have one main check out and check in point. Similar to how one would rent a bike from a bike shop. You wouldn't be able to turn it in across town. I mean the third generation, or "check a bike out from various kiosks around town and turn them in at another kiosk across town" model. Of course, third generational models are all still new enough that they've not been around long enough to have been proven workable or sustainable.
Do keep us posted with how it goes with Sibley and the bikes and the process. I'm sure documenting the process will be valuable for other groups looking to do similar work.
Thanks, and good luck!
josh.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.edu wrote:
This is great news! - Sibley is the place where I first learned to work with bikes.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Tanzman jason.tanzman@gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM Subject: [TheThinkTank] Community Partners Bike Library To: thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hey everybody,
I just wanted to send an email and let folks know about an exciting project that Sibley Bike Depot (St. Paul, MN) is beginning. Sibley received funding in full on Tuesday for a $200,000 program to run a Community Partners Bike Library! The funds were approved by Transit for Livable Communities, a not-for-profit transit advocacy group in charge of allocating a $21 million federal Non-motorized Transit Pilot program in the Twin Cities.
This funding will allow Sibley to build up a fleet of 200 bicycles – outfitted for transportation purposes with a rack, fenders, lights, lock, and helmet – to lend out to community members for up to six months. The bike lending will be coordinated through Community Partners – other agencies, such as affordable housing organizations, job placement centers, homeless shelters, and more – who will help identify patrons who will benefit from reliable transportation. Through this program, Sibley hopes to increase the availability of bicycles within working class and poor communities, thus helping to increase access to bicycles and diversify the bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
I am interested to hear any thoughts/feedback/suggestions from anyone who has 1) coordinated a bike library program; or, 2) handled large federal or other government grants (rumored to be a tremendous pain in the ass).
Jason Tanzman
-- Sibley Bike Depot Volunteer Coordinator 612-232-2737 (cell) 651-222-2080 (shop) www.sibleybikedepot.org Sibley Bike Depot's mission is to be an open, accessible space to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation, helping to build a sustainable environment and community. Volunteer with us to help build a bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
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The Bike Library Program at Sibley is not a bike share program. It's more like a way to get bikes to people who need em in a very targeted way while working with other community organizations. BUT as far as bike share programs, part of that Pilot Program federal money got allocated to these folks http://www.niceridemn.com/. should be interesting to see how it works works, i'm skeptical about how it will work in a medium density city like mpls (compared to a high density city like paris). time will tell. and thanks wanda for your input! we're learning as we go (we being not me, i'm taking the winter off :P )
Alicia Sibley Bike Depot St. Paul, MN
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jason,
Congratulations. The City of Boulder is looking to start a public paid bike program--similar to Velib in Paris, most likely-- sometime soon. They've scheduled a roundtable discussion about it next week, I believe.
I won't be at the meeting with the city, but I was at a previous, not-open-to-the-public meeting with some city staff, when we went over concerns about a potential project here.
We did a little research, and I wasn't convinced--nor am I now--that these programs are sustainable in a long term way (more than 2 or 3 years.) I think the maintenance and transport of bikes (from the bottoms of hills to the tops) is more expensive than the program can bring or has brought in any previous program that I'm aware of.
Of course, if I'm wrong, I would ABSOLUTELY love to hear about success stories. I'm not talking about first or second generation public bike programs. "First generation" would be the traditional "free bike" programs, where bikes are fixed and just left around busy places for people to use for free. "Second generation" public bike programs are the ones where you have one main check out and check in point. Similar to how one would rent a bike from a bike shop. You wouldn't be able to turn it in across town. I mean the third generation, or "check a bike out from various kiosks around town and turn them in at another kiosk across town" model. Of course, third generational models are all still new enough that they've not been around long enough to have been proven workable or sustainable.
Do keep us posted with how it goes with Sibley and the bikes and the process. I'm sure documenting the process will be valuable for other groups looking to do similar work.
Thanks, and good luck!
josh.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.edu wrote:
This is great news! - Sibley is the place where I first learned to work with bikes.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Tanzman jason.tanzman@gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM Subject: [TheThinkTank] Community Partners Bike Library To: thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hey everybody,
I just wanted to send an email and let folks know about an exciting project that Sibley Bike Depot (St. Paul, MN) is beginning. Sibley received funding in full on Tuesday for a $200,000 program to run a Community Partners Bike Library! The funds were approved by Transit for Livable Communities, a not-for-profit transit advocacy group in charge of allocating a $21 million federal Non-motorized Transit Pilot program in the Twin Cities.
This funding will allow Sibley to build up a fleet of 200 bicycles – outfitted for transportation purposes with a rack, fenders, lights, lock, and helmet – to lend out to community members for up to six months. The bike lending will be coordinated through Community Partners – other agencies, such as affordable housing organizations, job placement centers, homeless shelters, and more – who will help identify patrons who will benefit from reliable transportation. Through this program, Sibley hopes to increase the availability of bicycles within working class and poor communities, thus helping to increase access to bicycles and diversify the bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
I am interested to hear any thoughts/feedback/suggestions from anyone who has 1) coordinated a bike library program; or, 2) handled large federal or other government grants (rumored to be a tremendous pain in the ass).
Jason Tanzman
-- Sibley Bike Depot Volunteer Coordinator 612-232-2737 (cell) 651-222-2080 (shop) www.sibleybikedepot.org Sibley Bike Depot's mission is to be an open, accessible space to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation, helping to build a sustainable environment and community. Volunteer with us to help build a bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
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-- Thanks for supporting Community Cycles, Boulder's first and only non-profit bike shop! Ask me how you can sponsor a Youth Earn-A-Bike student for just $100. www.communitycycles.org
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
The Bike Library Program at Sibley is not a bike share program. It's more like a way to get bikes to people who need em in a very targeted way while working with other community organizations.
Now THIS I know is sustainable. Way to go!
BUT as far as bike share programs, part of that Pilot Program federal money got allocated to these folks http://www.niceridemn.com/. should be interesting to see how it works works, i'm skeptical about how it will work in a medium density city like mpls (compared to a high density city like paris). time will tell.and thanks wanda for your input! we're learning as we go (we being not me, i'm taking the winter off :P )
It will be interesting. We'll be keeping an eye out. Definitely keep us posted if anything major comes down...
Good luck moving forward with it all. I regret that I got to bikebike on Friday, and missed the Sibley visit.
josh.
Alicia Sibley Bike Depot St. Paul, MN
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jason,
Congratulations. The City of Boulder is looking to start a public paid bike program--similar to Velib in Paris, most likely-- sometime soon. They've scheduled a roundtable discussion about it next week, I believe.
I won't be at the meeting with the city, but I was at a previous, not-open-to-the-public meeting with some city staff, when we went over concerns about a potential project here.
We did a little research, and I wasn't convinced--nor am I now--that these programs are sustainable in a long term way (more than 2 or 3 years.) I think the maintenance and transport of bikes (from the bottoms of hills to the tops) is more expensive than the program can bring or has brought in any previous program that I'm aware of.
Of course, if I'm wrong, I would ABSOLUTELY love to hear about success stories. I'm not talking about first or second generation public bike programs. "First generation" would be the traditional "free bike" programs, where bikes are fixed and just left around busy places for people to use for free. "Second generation" public bike programs are the ones where you have one main check out and check in point. Similar to how one would rent a bike from a bike shop. You wouldn't be able to turn it in across town. I mean the third generation, or "check a bike out from various kiosks around town and turn them in at another kiosk across town" model. Of course, third generational models are all still new enough that they've not been around long enough to have been proven workable or sustainable.
Do keep us posted with how it goes with Sibley and the bikes and the process. I'm sure documenting the process will be valuable for other groups looking to do similar work.
Thanks, and good luck!
josh.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.eduwrote:
This is great news! - Sibley is the place where I first learned to work with bikes.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Tanzman jason.tanzman@gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM Subject: [TheThinkTank] Community Partners Bike Library To: thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hey everybody,
I just wanted to send an email and let folks know about an exciting project that Sibley Bike Depot (St. Paul, MN) is beginning. Sibley received funding in full on Tuesday for a $200,000 program to run a Community Partners Bike Library! The funds were approved by Transit for Livable Communities, a not-for-profit transit advocacy group in charge of allocating a $21 million federal Non-motorized Transit Pilot program in the Twin Cities.
This funding will allow Sibley to build up a fleet of 200 bicycles – outfitted for transportation purposes with a rack, fenders, lights, lock, and helmet – to lend out to community members for up to six months. The bike lending will be coordinated through Community Partners – other agencies, such as affordable housing organizations, job placement centers, homeless shelters, and more – who will help identify patrons who will benefit from reliable transportation. Through this program, Sibley hopes to increase the availability of bicycles within working class and poor communities, thus helping to increase access to bicycles and diversify the bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
I am interested to hear any thoughts/feedback/suggestions from anyone who has 1) coordinated a bike library program; or, 2) handled large federal or other government grants (rumored to be a tremendous pain in the ass).
Jason Tanzman
-- Sibley Bike Depot Volunteer Coordinator 612-232-2737 (cell) 651-222-2080 (shop) www.sibleybikedepot.org Sibley Bike Depot's mission is to be an open, accessible space to educate and empower people to use bicycles as transportation, helping to build a sustainable environment and community. Volunteer with us to help build a bicycling movement in the Twin Cities!
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Hey Josh, want to do an interview tomorrow about ghost bikes and other good stuff? I forgot your number, what is it? Nick
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