One should be mindful that there is Right~Libertarianism (Individualist Anarchism) & Left~Libertarianism (Libertarian Socialism).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_anarchism
~Robert R.
On Thu, 10/25/18, globalguy globalguy@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Contents ofThethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13 To: cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com, "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Thursday, October 25, 2018, 6:47 PM
And when you read it without those two words, it sounds positively Libertarian. I didn't realize there were so many "Ayn" Randians at The Think Tank. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:00 PM Robert Rands cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com wrote:
Take out "white supremacy" and look at it as a critique of power structures. Otherwise, I think it is a divisive paper that stokes animosity and will not lead to any solutions other than a power struggle of pendulum swings & unenlightened division.
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From: "Kieran O'Neill" oneillkza@gmail.com
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Just as a follow-up to this thread, I
just ran across the same
material incorporated into a larger
workshop:
https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workb...
I believe it's by some of the same
authors, and may be a more updated
version. This version definitely
expands on and contextualises the
excerpt which Angel posted, and is well
worth the read.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista
Nicholas cyclista@inventati.org
wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Rereading over this thread, this
really stood out to me:
>
> > They are not measuring the
right things, but they don?t know it because
> > they are not valuing
subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
>
> Yeah, I definitely feel you.
>
> Thanks.
>
> cyclista Nicholas
>
>
>
> On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist
wrote:
> > Thanks for your input,
Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
> > sure.
> >
> > Ride on,
> >
> > Judith C Feist
> > Co Director, the Hub at Back
Alley
> >
> >
> > *"*Radical simply means
'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
> >
> > "A woman without a man is
like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
> > Steinem
> >
> > I think [the bicycle] has
done more to emancipate women than anything
> > else
> > in the world...It gives a
woman a feeling of freedom and
> > self-reliance.~Susan B.
Anthony
> >
> >
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From: Judith Feist judith@backalleybikes.org
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Thanks for sharing, Kieran. (:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:16 PM Kieran
O'Neill oneillkza@gmail.com
wrote:
> Just as a follow-up to this
thread, I just ran across the same
> material incorporated into a
larger workshop:
>
>
> https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workb...
>
> I believe it's by some of the same
authors, and may be a more updated
> version. This version definitely
expands on and contextualises the
> excerpt which Angel posted, and is
well worth the read.
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05,
Cyclista Nicholas cyclista@inventati.org
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Rereading over this thread,
this really stood out to me:
> >
> > > They are not measuring
the right things, but they don?t know it because
> > > they are not valuing
subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
> >
> > Yeah, I definitely feel you.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > cyclista Nicholas
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith
Feist wrote:
> > > Thanks for your input,
Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > Ride on,
> > >
> > > Judith C Feist
> > > Co Director, the Hub at
Back Alley
> > >
> > >
> > > *"*Radical simply means
'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
> > >
> > > "A woman without a man
is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
> > > Steinem
> > >
> > > I think [the bicycle]
has done more to emancipate women than anything
> > > else
> > > in the world...It gives
a woman a feeling of freedom and
> > > self-reliance.~Susan B.
Anthony
> > >
> > >
____________________________________
> > >
> > > The ThinkTank mailing
List
> > >
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*"*Radical simply means 'grasping
things at the root'"- Angela Davis
"A woman without a man is like a fish
without a bicycle." -Gloria Steinem
I think [the bicycle] has done more to
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in the world...It gives a woman a
feeling of freedom and
self-reliance.~Susan B. Anthony
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Thanks for pointing that out, Robert.
In any case, globalguy, we're all approaching solutions here and we're all mostly on the same page. It's important to figure out how we can achieve good things together.
We can disagree on the particulars sometimes, it's ok. As long as we're doing meaningful amounts of good work, we're doing it right.
cyclista Nicholas
On 2018-10-25 23:37, Robert Rands wrote:
One should be mindful that there is Right~Libertarianism (Individualist Anarchism) & Left~Libertarianism (Libertarian Socialism).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_anarchism
~Robert R.
On Thu, 10/25/18, globalguy globalguy@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Contents ofThethinktank Digest, Vol 145, Issue 13 To: cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com, "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Thursday, October 25, 2018, 6:47 PM
And when you read it without those two words, it sounds positively Libertarian. I didn't realize there were so many "Ayn" Randians at The Think Tank. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 7:00 PM Robert Rands cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com wrote:
Take out "white supremacy" and look at it as a critique of power structures. Otherwise, I think it is a divisive paper that stokes animosity and will not lead to any solutions other than a power struggle of pendulum swings & unenlightened division.
~Robert Rands
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Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:16:10 -0700
From: "Kieran O'Neill" oneillkza@gmail.com
To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
Cc: judith@backalleybikes.org
Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] white
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Just as a follow-up to this thread, I
just ran across the same
material incorporated into a larger
workshop:
https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workb...
I believe it's by some of the same
authors, and may be a more updated
version. This version definitely
expands on and contextualises the
excerpt which Angel posted, and is well
worth the read.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05, Cyclista
Nicholas cyclista@inventati.org
wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Rereading over this thread, this
really stood out to me:
>
> > They are not measuring the
right things, but they don?t know it because
> > they are not valuing
subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
>
> Yeah, I definitely feel you.
>
> Thanks.
>
> cyclista Nicholas
>
>
>
> On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith Feist
wrote:
> > Thanks for your input,
Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
> > sure.
> >
> > Ride on,
> >
> > Judith C Feist
> > Co Director, the Hub at Back
Alley
> >
> >
> > *"*Radical simply means
'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
> >
> > "A woman without a man is
like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
> > Steinem
> >
> > I think [the bicycle] has
done more to emancipate women than anything
> > else
> > in the world...It gives a
woman a feeling of freedom and
> > self-reliance.~Susan B.
Anthony
> >
> >
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> >
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From: Judith Feist judith@backalleybikes.org
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Thanks for sharing, Kieran. (:
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:16 PM Kieran
O'Neill oneillkza@gmail.com
wrote:
> Just as a follow-up to this
thread, I just ran across the same
> material incorporated into a
larger workshop:
>
>
> https://resourcegeneration.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/2016-dRworks-workb...
>
> I believe it's by some of the same
authors, and may be a more updated
> version. This version definitely
expands on and contextualises the
> excerpt which Angel posted, and is
well worth the read.
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 16:05,
Cyclista Nicholas cyclista@inventati.org
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Rereading over this thread,
this really stood out to me:
> >
> > > They are not measuring
the right things, but they don?t know it because
> > > they are not valuing
subjective experiences. Do you feel me?
> >
> > Yeah, I definitely feel you.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > cyclista Nicholas
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2018-10-12 21:38, Judith
Feist wrote:
> > > Thanks for your input,
Matthew and Nicholas. Thought provoking, for
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > Ride on,
> > >
> > > Judith C Feist
> > > Co Director, the Hub at
Back Alley
> > >
> > >
> > > *"*Radical simply means
'grasping things at the root'"- Angela Davis
> > >
> > > "A woman without a man
is like a fish without a bicycle." -Gloria
> > > Steinem
> > >
> > > I think [the bicycle]
has done more to emancipate women than anything
> > > else
> > > in the world...It gives
a woman a feeling of freedom and
> > > self-reliance.~Susan B.
Anthony
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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*"*Radical simply means 'grasping
things at the root'"- Angela Davis
"A woman without a man is like a fish
without a bicycle." -Gloria Steinem
I think [the bicycle] has done more to
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in the world...It gives a woman a
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