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1. using the bicycle kitchen's POS system? was :Electronic Tracking (andrewsawtelle@riseup.net)
2. Re: Random Thought: Creating a bicycle parts/tools distributor for Community Bike Shops. (veganboyjosh@gmail.com)
3. Re: Random Thought: Creating a bicycle parts/tools distributor for Community Bike Shops. (Urban Bike Project of Wilmington, Inc.)
4. Re: Random Thought: Creating a bicycle parts/tools distributor for Community Bike Shops. (Stuart O Anderson)

Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:03:53 -0400 (EDT) From: andrewsawtelle@riseup.net Subject: [TheThinkTank] using the bicycle kitchen's POS system? was :Electronic Tracking To: "The Think Tank" Cc: kitchen@bicyclekitchen.com Message-ID: 1386.127.0.0.1.1205384633.squirrel@tern.riseup.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Yeah, at bikebike in Pittsburgh back in August Josh Moody from the LA Bike Kitchen was talking about their whole POS system and how they could probably make it available to people who want to use it. I've CCed their main contact email so maybe they'll let us know.

Andrew Recycle-A-Bike, Providence RI http://www.recycleabike.org

Velocipede Bike Project wrote:

This is convenient because we at velocipede are at the same point. I know that the bike kitchen said they would send out they're software at bike bike, but I haven't heard back from them....is anyone from the bike kitchen(in LA) on this list?

-beth velocipede bike project Baltimore, MD

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I know that this has been discussed before but I didn't see what I was specifically looking for in the archives. We are growing faster than our paperwork can keep up and are in need of a better system for tracking both inventory/bikes-in/bikes-out/donations type stuff as well as Work-Trade volunteer hours. I know that there is mention of developing a "community bike software suite", does anyone know where at in development that is? From what I saw in the archives, some places do have databases set up for tracking this stuff, is there any chance that could be shared as a template with the wider community? Thanks, Andrew FM Community Bicycle Workshop

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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:53:10 -0600 From: veganboyjosh@gmail.com Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Random Thought: Creating a bicycle parts/tools distributor for Community Bike Shops. To: "The Think Tank" Message-ID: 53e5a1720803130653r7a38184awd6e60449603919df@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

i love the idea.

what about creating some sort of blanket national/international organization/club/something that community bike shops could belong to, and then creating accounts for that group, the members of which would then reap the benefits?

i dunno how chain stores--rei, performance, etc--get their accounts set up, but surely every brick and mortar store that is a part of a chain doesn't have to go thru the hassle of getting an account set up?

i also love that jonathan called grease "wearable." it certainly is at community cycles...

there was some talk of this at bikebike! in 07, perhaps we should get a discussion group going, and have a workshop about it in 08?

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Vyki Englert wrote:

Love the idea, if there is a shop willing to set themselves up as a distributor, I'm sure the kickstand would be interested in being on the distribution list. We are still so very new, I doubt we could set ourselves up for that position. Though down the road, I'm sure we would be able to help alot more. -vyki

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:59 PM, 1304bikes 1304bikes@gmail.com wrote:

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I really like this idea as well, mainly because we here at 1304bikes fall into the not established enough to get a distributor account. This means we usually have to pay retail prices for anything we happen to need. A lot of the local bike shops to give us a nice discount, but we still pay some markup on wholesale.

I agree with option 2, that it is worth doing. I'm just not sure how one would go about doing so; but i certainly love the idea.

-Doug 1304bikes Raleigh, NC

On 3/12/08, Jonathan Morrison wrote:

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Distributors ( http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Distributors) are just the middle men separating manufacturers from retailers. Just like food cooperatives that buy in bulk and disseminate food at bulk rates, we could do that with bike parts. For those of us that buy using distributors it would save an roughly 25% off of wholesale, and for those community bike shops that aren't established enough to get a distributor account -- we would be providing an option that is 75% off of MSRP.

Ideally we would get accounts with tool manufacturers like park tool, pedros, hozan, etc.,... as well as wearable items like grease, bearing, chain lube, patch manufacturers, and then lower-end (but quality) parts manufacturers for things that we don't get enough of donated, or that aren't worth re-using. This will be different for each shop, but as an example in SLC we don't re-use bearings, spokes, cables or housing -- they get recycled and we put new ones on bikes. We also buy new road tires (27" & 700c) because we don't have enough decent ones donated, either they are too worn or dried out.

I can think of 2 conclusions:

1. It isn't worth doing. The 25% cut a distributor gets is worth

paying given the hassle and it is just another random thought that might result in spending $5 to save $3. 2) It is worth doing.

-- Sincerely,

Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org

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