I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost" or M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after hours. We did, but after looking into all the options ( http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door. This has worked out really well so far.
A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities sake.
Smart cards (http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9)
can be purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that controls the door.
Smart cards cannot be copied.
If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't be
resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access. Luckily we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys.
- Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we could
incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain times.
- A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many people
use our shop. We realize that some people hold the door for others and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other out, it is a rough estimate.
- We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level. So if it is in your
wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with the "butt swipe."
- No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is just
a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader to detect.
On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets:
http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker
Non-evil, but still incredibly creepy. I guess technology and Ipods are a simpler solution than education and fostering responsibility.
Squeaky Clean
On Feb 8, 2008 2:40 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org wrote:
On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets:
http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
On Feb 8, 2008 1:39 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org wrote:
I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost" or M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after hours. We did, but after looking into all the options ( http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door. This has worked out really well so far.
A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities sake.
Smart cards (
http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9) can be purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that controls the door.
Smart cards cannot be copied.
If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't be
resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access. Luckily we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys.
- Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we
could incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain times.
- A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many
people use our shop. We realize that some people hold the door for others and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other out, it is a rough estimate.
- We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level. So if it is in
your wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with the "butt swipe."
- No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is
just a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader to detect.
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
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right. because bribery is a *great* tool of cycling advocacy, and is *guaranteed* to ensure an enduring love of bicycles and human-powered transportation.
gross.
- -bB
Squeaky Clean wrote: | Non-evil, but still incredibly creepy. I guess technology and Ipods are a | simpler solution than education and fostering responsibility. | | Squeaky Clean | | On Feb 8, 2008 2:40 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org | wrote: | |> On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that |> encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets: |> |> http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker |> |> -- |> Sincerely, |> |> Jonathan Morrison |> Executive Director |> Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective |> 2312 S. West Temple |> Salt Lake City, UT 84115 |> w: 801-328-2453 |> c: 801-688-0183 |> f: 801-466-3856 |> www.slcbikecollective.org |> |> Get Addicted to Crank! |> http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ |> |> On Feb 8, 2008 1:39 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org |> wrote: |> |>> I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost" or |>> M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after hours. |>> We did, but after looking into all the options ( |>> http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we |>> were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door. This |>> has worked out really well so far. |>> |>> * A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities sake. |>> |>> * Smart cards ( |>> http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9) can be |>> purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key |>> cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that |>> controls the door. |>> |>> * Smart cards cannot be copied. |>> |>> * If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't be |>> resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access. Luckily |>> we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys. |>> |>> * Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we |>> could incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain |>> times. |>> |>> * A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many |>> people use our shop. We realize that some people hold the door for others |>> and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other |>> out, it is a rough estimate. |>> |>> * We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level. So if it is in |>> your wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with |>> the "butt swipe." |>> |>> * No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is |>> just a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader |>> to detect. |>> |>> -- |>> Sincerely, |>> |>> Jonathan Morrison |>> Executive Director |>> Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective |>> 2312 S. West Temple |>> Salt Lake City, UT 84115 |>> w: 801-328-2453 |>> c: 801-688-0183 |>> f: 801-466-3856 |>> www.slcbikecollective.org |>> |>> Get Addicted to Crank! |>> http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/ |> |> |> |> |> |> _______________________________________________ |> Thethinktank mailing list |> Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org |> |> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... |> |> | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | _______________________________________________ | Thethinktank mailing list | Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org | http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o...
'every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.' -h.l. mencken
The Freiker system is just interesting because for anyone that has ever had to write a grant, quantifiable results and numbers are something foundations and federal grants love/need to see. So the realtime nature of the system makes this system look very appealing.
I will wait to call it creepy when this mom and pop company gets bought out by a government agency that ties it into things like medical info, driving records and social security numbers. Until then I will think of it as an innovative use of technology.
On Feb 8, 2008 2:32 PM, Squeaky Clean seppukudaily@gmail.com wrote:
Non-evil, but still incredibly creepy. I guess technology and Ipods are a simpler solution than education and fostering responsibility.
Squeaky Clean
On Feb 8, 2008 2:40 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org wrote:
On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets:
http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
On Feb 8, 2008 1:39 PM, Jonathan Morrison < jonathan@slcbikecollective.org> wrote:
I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost" or M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after hours. We did, but after looking into all the options ( http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door. This has worked out really well so far.
- A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities
sake.
- Smart cards (
http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9) can be purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that controls the door.
Smart cards cannot be copied.
If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't
be resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access. Luckily we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys.
- Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we
could incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain times.
- A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many
people use our shop. We realize that some people hold the door for others and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other out, it is a rough estimate.
- We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level. So if it is in
your wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with the "butt swipe."
- No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is
just a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader to detect.
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
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we use one of those combination lock key holder things at Community Cycles in Boulder. It's the kind realtors use, similar to these.http://www.lok-it.com/images/all_keysafe.gif
not nearly as trackable/updatable/butt swipable as rfid, but cheap and low maintenance. we only share the combination with a select few, basically the board members (around 6 or 7) and core staff. we don't have a set policy about the password, but a volunteer's gotta prove his or her worth before they're endowed with the knowledge.
this option also leaves open the ability/possibility of someone getting the combination, and going and having a copy of the key made...
also, regarding the Freiker program, we have that in Boulder, and it's pretty successful/actively participated in. We're working on a bike rider discount sort of thing, where if you're on a bike, local businesses give discounts, in order to encourage people to ride instead of drive. The Freiker program is one we're looking to work with to model our program after, as well as team up with and/or include as participants.
On Feb 8, 2008 2:32 PM, Squeaky Clean seppukudaily@gmail.com wrote:
Non-evil, but still incredibly creepy. I guess technology and Ipods are a simpler solution than education and fostering responsibility.
Squeaky Clean
On Feb 8, 2008 2:40 PM, Jonathan Morrison jonathan@slcbikecollective.org wrote:
On a semi-related topic, here is another non-evil use of RFID that encourages kids to ride to school and wear helmets:
http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Freiker
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
On Feb 8, 2008 1:39 PM, Jonathan Morrison < jonathan@slcbikecollective.org> wrote:
I don't know if your organization has issues with volunteers, "lost" or M.I.A. keys, or just not knowing who left the shop a mess after hours. We did, but after looking into all the options ( http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Keyless_Entry) we were able to get a smart card (RFID) reader donated for our shop door. This has worked out really well so far.
- A log is kept of who uses the shop and when for accountabilities
sake.
- Smart cards (
http://www.hidcorp.com/technology.php?tech_cat=1&subcat_id=9) can be purchased at any locksmith for the same cost of getting a traditional key cut, but they don't work until they are "registered" with software that controls the door.
Smart cards cannot be copied.
If a card is lost or there is a problem with a volunteer that can't
be resolved in a civil manner -- the card can be denied future access. Luckily we haven't had that anything besides "lost" keys.
- Access to the shop can be limited to the hour, so if we wanted to we
could incubate a volunteer by only giving them access to the shop at certain times.
- A magnetic contact on the door gives us a count of roughly how many
people use our shop. We realize that some people hold the door for others and some go in and out more than once -- while those might cancel each other out, it is a rough estimate.
- We installed the smart card reader at "butt" level. So if it is in
your wallet you can open the door without taking your hands off a bike with the "butt swipe."
- No personal information is stored on the smart (RFID) card, there is
just a pre-programmed number that has to be an inch away for a card reader to detect.
-- Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
Get Addicted to Crank! http://www.slcbikecollective.org/crank/
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