Something to add is that we require people to give 24 hours volunteer time every three months in order to join the collective council. The qbp privilege is a bonus for that commitment. And, it is consistent with QBP's policy, in that the people who can make personal orders are essentially the "employees" of the shop.
-Jessica
----- Original Message ---- From: Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.edu To: The Think Tank thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:17:43 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Collective members/ordering from QBP
I
can't
find
the
policy
on
the
QBP
dealer
site,
you
might
want
to
call
your
account
rep
to
check.
I
believe
the
deal
is
that
it's
OK
for
shop
employees
to
make
personal
orders
for
personal
use,
possibly
with
some
total
dollar
cap
on
how
much
can
be
ordered
for
this
use
in
a
year?
We
let
collective
members
add
items
to
our
orders
for
personal
use
with
the
understanding
that
the
stuff
they
order
isn't
going
to
be
given
away/resold.
If
someone
wants
more
than
$500
worth
of
stuff
it
goes
through
collective
review.
Stuart
On
Jan
30,
2008
2:14
PM,
plan_9@riseup.net
wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has any policy in place that allows or
dis-allows collective members from ordering new parts, frame/forks, or
even complete bikes from QBP. Shops that do allow ordering, what
restrictions from QBP apply?
Thanks, Andrew
FMCBW
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We have a four-tier policy for all new parts purchasing (including special orders). Anyone can pay retail, members get retail -15%, members who volunteer an average of 10 hours a month get -30%, and staff, board members, and volunteers who accept special responsibilities get -45% (so we still cover shipping costs and the time we put in on ordering). We also occasionally sell to another local bike collective at a very small markup and do some discounts for clients, mostly on locks and helmets for kids' programs.
It's been this way for our whole "mature" history, and I've never seen it cause any problems. What it takes to get each discount is very clear, and only requires a certain commitment of time, not anyone's approval. It doesn't cause any grief from shops, because the total of people who can get 30% or more is probably less than 30. I'm pretty sure it's wholly compatible with all of QBP's policies, too.
Peter
On 1/31/08, Jessica McPherson jessica_mcp@yahoo.com wrote:
Something to add is that we require people to give 24 hours volunteer time every three months in order to join the collective council. The qbp privilege is a bonus for that commitment. And, it is consistent with QBP's policy, in that the people who can make personal orders are essentially the "employees" of the shop.
-Jessica
----- Original Message ---- From: Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.edu To: The Think Tank thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:17:43 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Collective members/ordering from QBP
I can't find the policy on the QBP dealer site, you might want to call your account rep to check. I believe the deal is that it's OK for shop employees to make personal orders for personal use, possibly with some total dollar cap on how much can be ordered for this use in a year? We let collective members add items to our orders for personal use with the understanding that the stuff they order isn't going to be given away/resold. If someone wants more than $500 worth of stuff it goes through collective review.
Stuart
On Jan 30, 2008 2:14 PM, plan_9@riseup.net wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has any policy in place that allows or
dis-allows collective members from ordering new parts, frame/forks, or
even complete bikes from QBP. Shops that do allow ordering, what
restrictions from QBP apply?
Thanks, Andrew
FMCBW
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Good info! So that we don't lose this I added it to the wiki:
http://www.bikecollectives.org/wiki/index.php?title=Distributors#Order_Polic...
On Feb 1, 2008 11:11 AM, Peter Garver pgarver@gmail.com wrote:
We have a four-tier policy for all new parts purchasing (including special orders). Anyone can pay retail, members get retail -15%, members who volunteer an average of 10 hours a month get -30%, and staff, board members, and volunteers who accept special responsibilities get -45% (so we still cover shipping costs and the time we put in on ordering). We also occasionally sell to another local bike collective at a very small markup and do some discounts for clients, mostly on locks and helmets for kids' programs.
It's been this way for our whole "mature" history, and I've never seen it cause any problems. What it takes to get each discount is very clear, and only requires a certain commitment of time, not anyone's approval. It doesn't cause any grief from shops, because the total of people who can get 30% or more is probably less than 30. I'm pretty sure it's wholly compatible with all of QBP's policies, too.
Peter
On 1/31/08, Jessica McPherson jessica_mcp@yahoo.com wrote:
Something to add is that we require people to give 24 hours volunteer
time every three months in order to join the collective council. The qbp privilege is a bonus for that commitment. And, it is consistent with QBP's policy, in that the people who can make personal orders are essentially the "employees" of the shop.
-Jessica
----- Original Message ---- From: Stuart O Anderson soa@ri.cmu.edu To: The Think Tank thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:17:43 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Collective members/ordering from QBP
I can't find the policy on the QBP dealer site, you might want to call your account rep to check. I believe the deal is that it's OK for shop employees to make personal orders for personal use, possibly with some total dollar cap on how much can be ordered for this use in a year? We let collective members add items to our orders for personal use with the understanding that the stuff they order isn't going to be given away/resold. If someone wants more than $500 worth of stuff it goes through collective review.
Stuart
On Jan 30, 2008 2:14 PM, plan_9@riseup.net wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has any policy in place that allows or
dis-allows collective members from ordering new parts, frame/forks, or
even complete bikes from QBP. Shops that do allow ordering, what
restrictions from QBP apply?
Thanks, Andrew
FMCBW
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