Re: [TheThinkTank] traffic light timing
I understand that Corvallis (Cycle City), OR, has recently agreed to slow the downtown grid of lights to 10 mph to accommodate bicycles. They're also considering a plan to incrementally increase car parking rates, to encourage more cycling. We already have the largest ride share in the USA. There is so much more we could do, but you've got to fight the asphalt lobby every step of the way.
From: Ryan Kragerud
Hey CA Think Tank members,
What's the deal with LA's light project? I just heard on Nat'l Public Radio, LA's traffic lights have been synced and the happiest road users are cyclists.
The traffic person from Santa Monica's public radio station reported the story. Anyone know what speed the lights are set at, and how it's actually working?
Thanks
Ryan Kragerud, Bicycle Longmont
From: Vincenzo loco
I don't think it's set for a specific speed necessarily, I will ask some traffic engineers I know here.
i use my bicycle in Los Angeles and haven't noticed anything but then i usually ride on the streets we don't know the name of. And they have many fewer traffic lights.
LADOT is repainting some streets. Making bike lanes that remove a car lane and calm traffic. This is being done on big artillery routes with lights and the whole shebang. We have a four block long "Bicycle Boulevard" on a back road adjacent to Hollywood Boulevard the Pro bicycle team in DOT are using it to educate the rest of the city folks.
Also we have http://www.ciclavia.org/%C2%A0 a great day when they close the a long stretch of road to all motor vehicles. This time it will be from downtown to the ocean.
--- On Sat, 4/6/13, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] traffic light timing To: "thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Date: Saturday, April 6, 2013, 7:52 PM
I understand that Corvallis (Cycle City), OR, has recently agreed to slow the downtown grid of lights to 10 mph to accommodate bicycles. They're also considering a plan to incrementally increase car parking rates, to encourage more cycling. We already have the largest ride share in the USA. There is so much more we could do, but you've got to fight the asphalt lobby every step of the way.
From: Ryan Kragerud
Hey CA Think Tank members,
What's the deal with LA's light project? I just heard on Nat'l Public Radio, LA's traffic lights have been synced and the happiest road users are cyclists.
The traffic person from Santa Monica's public radio station reported the story. Anyone know what speed the lights are set at, and how it's actually working?
Thanks
Ryan Kragerud, Bicycle Longmont
From: Vincenzo loco
I don't think it's set for a specific speed necessarily, I will ask some traffic engineers I know here.
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On 2013-04-06, at 10:52 PM, Vernon Huffman wrote:
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There is so much more we could do, but you've got to fight the asphalt lobby every step of the way.
The above made me chuckle - not because I disagree, but because I won't let cars think they are the reason for paved roads. We cyclists were the original "asphalt lobby":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Roads_Movement
Mark
We've been working on asphalt alternatives for a few years now. Asphalt is full of toxins. Washington State has banned a class of asphalt sealers. Asphalt is mainly crude oil and some rock.
We have had good success with pine resin pavement, psyllium and clay pavers. Pavers need great care in being laid, as to be smooth. Psyllium is a joy to work with, much cheaper than asphalt and is permeable.
Think about Roman Road. This is cobble stone road, applied by hand or with the help of a tractor. Roman cobble roads last for centuries; modern ones are all over Europe, smoothly applied with lazed levels, such that bike riding is no problem. These roads are nearly carbon zero to construct. Only the work of getting the rock processed and delivered are the small carbon consumption items, no oil in the road. Living wage workers apply these roads, just as any road; they used to be called masons or Calceteiros. And the joints are semi-permeable for water, such that the soil lives rather than dying under asphaltic pavement.
These roads could help us make some bike trails too. The cost of construction and materials is the same as asphalt!
Bill Wright Burton, Directo, LibraryBikes.org
On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Bob Giordano" mist@strans.org wrote:
We've been working on asphalt alternatives for a few years now. Asphalt is full of toxins. Washington State has banned a class of asphalt sealers. Asphalt is mainly crude oil and some rock.
We have had good success with pine resin pavement, psyllium and clay pavers. Pavers need great care in being laid, as to be smooth. Psyllium is a joy to work with, much cheaper than asphalt and is permeable.
-- Bob Giordano Free Cycles Missoula Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation www.strans.org, mist@strans.org, 406-880-6834
Mark Rehder wrote:
On 2013-04-06, at 10:52 PM, Vernon Huffman wrote: (snip)
There is so much more we could do, but you've got to fight the asphalt lobby every step of the way.
The above made me chuckle - not because I disagree, but because I won't let cars think they are the reason for paved roads. We cyclists were the original "asphalt lobby":
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