Re: [TheThinkTank] Thethinktank Digest, Vol 135, Issue 6
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Today's Topics:
- An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Josh Bisker)
- Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Ainsley Naylor)
- Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Gabriel Trainer)
- Re: An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools (Jean-Fran?ois Caron)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Josh Bisker jbisker@gmail.com To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:31:25 -0500 Subject: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got!
tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it easy for folks to find the right one.
EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!*
xoxo
Josh
Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op http://bikecoop.nyc/ 596 Acres http://596acres.org/ Bindlestiff Family Cirkus http://bindlestiff.org/
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.com To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:41:47 -0500 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly still abuse and break them.
I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people figuring it out/finding it for themselves....
NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker jbisker@gmail.com wrote:
Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got!
tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it easy for folks to find the right one.
EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!*
xoxo
Josh
Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op http://bikecoop.nyc/ 596 Acres http://596acres.org/ Bindlestiff Family Cirkus http://bindlestiff.org/
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gabriel Trainer getrainer@bikefarm.org To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 11:59:24 -0800 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. Gabriel
On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" needleandthread@gmail.com wrote:
Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly still abuse and break them.
I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people figuring it out/finding it for themselves....
NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker jbisker@gmail.com wrote:
Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got!
tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it easy for folks to find the right one.
EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!*
xoxo
Josh
Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op http://bikecoop.nyc/ 596 Acres http://596acres.org/ Bindlestiff Family Cirkus http://bindlestiff.org/
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jean-François Caron" jfcaron3@gmail.com To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 14:54:38 -0600 Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] An Easy One! Displaying Freewheel & Cassette Tools At the Bike Kitchen in Vancouver (from what I recall, having left over a year ago), we only had the common Shimano-style freewheel and cassette tools. The freewheel tool has a hole in it, so we just put it on a nail in the wall, the cassette tool has a steel rod, so we stuck it in a hole in the wall next to the aforementioned nail.
Anything other than the standard Shimano-style tools, you had to ask a mechanic to get it behind the counter. This is both because it's less confusing for newbies who 99% have the Shimano style, but also because a lot of the other styles are much easier to strip, e.g. the two-knotch Suntour.
Y'all know the trick about keeping the freewheel tool engaged with a nut right?
Jean-François
On Dec 13, 2017, at 13:59 , Gabriel Trainer getrainer@bikefarm.org wrote:
At Bike Farm we have all of the freewheel and cassette tools laid out on a magnetic strip so you can see the different shapes easily. Still a guess and check method, but better than a bin of tools thrown together. Gabriel
On Dec 13, 2017 7:41 AM, "Ainsley Naylor" needleandthread@gmail.com wrote:
Because these are the type of tools which are SMALL, important, easy to break/strip, and not always cheap (hello, did you order a Maillard french freewheel tool off of the internet because they are super hard to find???) we DO keep ours in a closed bin on the table with our vices. Bottom bracket tools are actually kept in our special tool area at the front of the shop because if people can grab stuff they are more likely to break it :( Hell even volunteer who do know how to use these tools properly still abuse and break them.
I guess generally we expect that volunteer will determine what tool is required for a repair and retrieve and explain it, rather than people figuring it out/finding it for themselves....
NOT THE ANSWER YOU WANTED SORRY JOSH!!!!
Ainsley.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Josh Bisker jbisker@gmail.com wrote:
Heyyo! I've been in co-ops where they have neat ways of displaying the various freewheel and cassette tools, like on a board next to the hub types they fit. Is YOUR shop one of these? (Or do you just have 'em jumbled unhelpfully all together in a bin like we do?) Send a pic of what you got!
tldr: show us your rad way of housing freewheel/cassette tools that makes it easy for folks to find the right one.
EXTRA CREDIT: same question re *bottom bracket tools!*
xoxo
Josh
Josh Bisker 914-500-9890 <(914)%20500-9890> New York Mechanical Gardens Bike Co-op http://bikecoop.nyc/ 596 Acres http://596acres.org/ Bindlestiff Family Cirkus http://bindlestiff.org/
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