Re: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome.
You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone else (other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it, they don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked "dignified". Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she said, "Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want to look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people in Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM
This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches. Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote: I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop.-Jason TanzmanSibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN_______________________________________________Thethinktank mailing listThethinktank@bikecollectives.orgTo unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.orgTo manage your subscription, plase visit:http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... Patrick LeahyGraphic Designer / Creative Consultant480-678-8191patrick@patrickleahydesign.com
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Ok, on topic this time.
BikeSaviours is open sunday, monday for classes, and wednesday for
ladies night. We have a great little crew of people and a large,
fantastic space, but we're a bit limited by the size of our volunteer
staff. I'd love to be open more. Part of it is attracting more
volunteers and co-op members. We hope to be able to pay an employee
at some point.
In the meantime, we've been looking to expand our outreach and better
serve our local community. Here are a few things that have happened
at Bike Saviours. Two of our members recently attended a program to
help the local hopeless and offered bike repair services free for a
day. Several of our members pull double duty with the Tempe Bike
Action Group, a local advocacy organization that predates the co-op
by several years. We've had bikes donated from the municipal
recycling/waste resource center of Chandler, Az. Boy Scouts have
built bikes for a local elementary school from 20inch bikes.
We've been having people from outside the co-op come in and present
ideas for collaborating with other non-profits/groups/charities. Have
people had luck in collaborating with other non-profits in their
respective areas? Are there other groups with similar goals that you
work with? Have you ever opened up your space to other groups/non
profits/projects? I'd love to hear some input.
We're one year into a partnership with a complimentary organization,
and it has so far worked out very well.
We're only open in the evenings and Sunday afternoons, and it always
seemed a bit of a waste that the shop otherwise sat empty and
unused. We were approached by Causeway Work Centre (http://
causewayworkcentre.org/ ), an organization that was looking into
setting up a bike shop that would provide training and jobs for
people within their programs. That enterprise is called http://
cyclesalvation.org/
Time was spent doing the sorting-out dance and them getting their
funding together. Then, with having the financial and other resources
of both orgs. we were able to find and afford a much nicer space for
our shop. So we didn't even date - just straightaway moved in
together. ;)
It was rather hectic at first, mainly because this all happened last
Spring at the start of the busy season. But we sorted things out as
we went along and now it's all smooth. This is mainly because to run
this program Causeway was able to hire one of our volunteer
staffers. Paul has been with us for years and he can run their thing
knowing our needs at the same time.
Here's how we set things up:
They signed the lease, because Causeway is much larger than we are
and have been around a lot longer (landlords seem to like that). We
pay a monthly "management fee", which covers rent, utilities, and Net
access.
We retain ownership of all the inventory, aside from the nice new
Park professional workstands (which they purchased with their funded
tool budget, since they didn't have to buy any other other tools
since we already had them). So they "own" the walls, while we own
the innards.
We share the donated bikes and parts. Currently they only do full
overhauls, while we do those and also our As Is bikes. This has
resulted in the clearing out of a bike backlog that has dogged us for
almost ten years. We're looking forward to the Spring donations
because we've actually run out of overhaul-quality bikes, and have
just enough As Is to tide us over.
We sell each other's bikes, and trade commissions back and forth each
month.
One of Causeway's other programs hauls away our metal scrap. (And
there's a LOT of that.)
The beauty of all of this is that the shop is now being used almost
every day. The only quiet one is Monday, and even that will become a
day operation for us come April.
Mark Rehder - Director re-Cycles Bicycle Co-op http://re-cycles.ca
On 1-Mar-09, at 11:39 PM, Patrick Leahy wrote:
Ok, on topic this time.
BikeSaviours is open sunday, monday for classes, and wednesday for
ladies night. We have a great little crew of people and a large,
fantastic space, but we're a bit limited by the size of our
volunteer staff. I'd love to be open more. Part of it is attracting
more volunteers and co-op members. We hope to be able to pay an
employee at some point.In the meantime, we've been looking to expand our outreach and
better serve our local community. Here are a few things that have
happened at Bike Saviours. Two of our members recently attended a
program to help the local hopeless and offered bike repair services
free for a day. Several of our members pull double duty with the
Tempe Bike Action Group, a local advocacy organization that
predates the co-op by several years. We've had bikes donated from
the municipal recycling/waste resource center of Chandler, Az. Boy
Scouts have built bikes for a local elementary school from 20inch
bikes.We've been having people from outside the co-op come in and present
ideas for collaborating with other non-profits/groups/charities.
Have people had luck in collaborating with other non-profits in
their respective areas? Are there other groups with similar goals
that you work with? Have you ever opened up your space to other
groups/non profits/projects? I'd love to hear some input.
i disagree with adam,
i say abuse the shit out of this listserve.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Bruce Lien bikedadlien@yahoo.com wrote:
You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone else (other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it, they don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked "dignified". Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she said, "Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want to look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people in Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM
This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy.
Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches.
Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors.
Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote:
I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them).
The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop. -Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.orghttp://mc/compose?to=Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.orghttp://mc/compose?to=TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit:
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I just want to say as someone who can't grow facial hair beyond a dusting of embarassment, I hate you all who can.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, reno bikes renobikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
i disagree with adam,
i say abuse the shit out of this listserve.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Bruce Lien bikedadlien@yahoo.com wrote:
You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone else (other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it, they don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked "dignified". Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she said, "Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want to look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people in Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com wrote:
From: Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM
This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches. Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote:
I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop. -Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit:
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Well, I can grow two long prickly billygoat hairs on either side of my chin.
This makes me not only much, much more hip, but far more masculine than the rest of you.
andrea, who typed "either side of my chain," in a desperate attempt to keep the listserv on topic.
On 3/2/09, Boson Au instructions@gmail.com wrote:
I just want to say as someone who can't grow facial hair beyond a dusting of embarassment, I hate you all who can.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, reno bikes renobikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
i disagree with adam,
i say abuse the shit out of this listserve.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Bruce Lien bikedadlien@yahoo.com wrote:
You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone else (other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it, they don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked "dignified". Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she said, "Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want to look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people in Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com wrote:
From: Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM
This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem to grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all over the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his moustache and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling moustaches. Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote:
I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine here in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while that our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop. -Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit:
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we have some folks in our shop--ladies, too!--who rock the moustache......wait for it.....wait for it......handlebars.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Bike City bikecityrecyclery@gmail.comwrote:
Well, I can grow two long prickly billygoat hairs on either side of my chin.
This makes me not only much, much more hip, but far more masculine than the rest of you.
andrea, who typed "either side of my chain," in a desperate attempt to keep the listserv on topic.
On 3/2/09, Boson Au instructions@gmail.com wrote:
I just want to say as someone who can't grow facial hair beyond a dusting of embarassment, I hate you all who can.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:46 PM, reno bikes renobikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
i disagree with adam,
i say abuse the shit out of this listserve.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Bruce Lien bikedadlien@yahoo.com
wrote:
You grow a mustache because you want to, not because of what someone
else
(other than your significant other) might think. They don't like it,
they
don't have to look at it. Do your thing, man. I once grew a goatee and thought I was being funky. Instead, others thought I looked
"dignified".
Not the look I had in mind. I have grown many a beard in my life as well. Don't now, though, as when my daughter was five and I shaved it off, she
said,
"Daddy, now you look like a good man." Kept it off since. I don't want
to
look like a "bad" man in her eyes. Also, Tom Ritchey is an awesome guy. Heard him speak in Denver about how he came to be an integral part of Project Rwanda. This project is absolutely incredible and inspiring. If you can check it out by all means do so. And if you can find a way to support, go for it. This project truly has and is changing the lives of people
in
Rwanda!!!!!!!!!!!!
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com wrote:
From: Patrick Leahy partick@gmail.com Subject: [TheThinkTank] totally off topic, yet awesome. To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 7:12 PM
This is my first post to this doohickey. I've met veganboyjosh. My name is Patrick. I work at Bike Saviours in Tempe. Anyway, I have a moustache. Lately non-bike friends have accused me of growing it to be trendy. This is annoying, I've grown up around people with moustaches. Punks have moustaches, and bike people in particular seem
to
grow them. I grow facial hair every winter. It doesn't seem abnormal to me, and I don't see why its trendy. Anyways, you know who has a moustache, and has had one for years? Tom Ritchey. Tom Ritchey designed and hand built some of the first mountain bikes with Gary Fisher. He's designed scads of components, rides all
over
the world, and in hasn't shaved his stache in nigh of 20 years. He's a damn decent guy, and bike nerd to rival the best of them. I saw his
moustache
and the man today in Sedona at Mountain Bike Heaven. And it was fantastic. Anyways, you can use him as a point of reference for cycling
moustaches.
Oh yeah, he started this http://projectrwanda.org/ He's the first guy listed on the board of directors. Maybe that is on topic, project rwanda rules also.
On Mar 1, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jason Tanzman wrote:
I think a central component of the "magazine" section and resource library should be zines. They are almost always local, place-specific, and grassroots. There are some seriously awesome zines out there - about bike trailer construction, commuting, and tons more - the best local zine
here
in Minneapolis is Dames on Frames, a feminist analysis of the biking movement locally and globally. Microcosm publishing has a great collection available for purchase (and it's super easy to set up a wholesale account with them). The other suggested books are great. I've been thinking for a while
that
our shop should set up a resource library for folks to either check out or use in the shop. -Jason Tanzman Sibley Bike Depot, St. Paul MN _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit:
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