Re: [TheThinkTank] Carbon Tax Thethinktank Digest, Vol 174, Issue 3
I do not think the promotion of bicycling should be in such an antagonistic position that degrades all forms of possible transport. This has been a mistaken path that too much of the bicycling community has been following, one which has been a detrimental to all in the sphere of safety, access, and progress in a comprehensive design for all modal forms.
Sincerely, Robert Rands Board Member and Manager, SoPo Bikes, Reynoldstown https://sopobikes.org/
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1. Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration (Kim Schaffer)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 20:48:39 +0000 From: Kim Schaffer kim@communitybikeworks.org To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration Message-ID: MN2PR18MB32163E0ECD0705287C89C0D6C5919@MN2PR18MB3216.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
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Hi friends, Would you consider signing this letter of support from members of the biking industry calling for federal action on climate? https://www.businessclimateleaders.org/bikingindustrydeclaration
I expect Community Bike Works will be signing on shortly. Feel free to share. Kim Schaffer
Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration SIGN THE DECLARATION HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzxjyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform Join your colleagues in the Biking Industry in raising your collective voice to encourage Members of Congress to enact climate solutions in an effective, bipartisan, economically supportive and equitable way. BIKING INDUSTRY?S CLIMATE ACTION AND CARBON PRICING DECLARATION We, the Biking Industry of America, as business owners, leaders, entrepreneurs, employers, avid outdoorsmen and women and citizens hereby declare our strong recommendation for federal action to mitigate the risks of climate change, allowing our businesses to flourish and creating a healthy planet for all future generations. WHEREAS the recent IPCChttps://report.ipcc.ch/sr15/pdf/sr15_spm_final.pdf and National Climate Assessmenthttps://nca2018.globalchange.gov/ reports call for immediate action to stem the worst effects of climate change; WHEREAS the biking industry is a rapidly growing and evolving industry with an economic impact of over $81 billion domestically, responsible for tens of thousands of jobs that serve the 48 million cyclists in the US. WHEREAS biking and outdoor recreation facilities will be irreparably damaged by the consequences of anthropogenic climate change which include more severe weather, increasing temperatures, and larger forest fires. WHEREAS the Lancet Commissionhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)32596-6/fulltext has said that climate change is the greatest public health threat of this century, but it is also the greatest public health opportunity of this century. The Commission wrote: The single most powerful strategic instrument to inoculate human health against the risks of climate change is strong and sustained carbon pricing; WHEREAS we are making substantial efforts and investments to reduce our carbon footprint and to ensure that we and our supply chain are sustainable and well positioned to avoid disruption from climate events; WHEREAS: The American Medical Associationhttps://www.ama-assn.org/topics/climate-change, along with over 100 American health organizations, recommends that we ?put a price on carbon that reflects its true social costs and phase out investments in and subsidies for fossil fuels for energy extraction and generation.? WHEREAS a fee-dividend structure on carbon encourages the use of bicycles and other similar forms of human powered transportation, as well as increasing the buying power of consumers to purchase said products; WHEREAS: A bipartisan group of 3,500 luminary economistshttps://clcouncil.org/economists-statement/ (including all living former Federal Reserve chairs) endorses a carbon fee and dividend as the best way to "reduce carbon emissions at the scale and speed necessary," while also protecting the poor. WHEREAS researchhttps://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/research/report/assessment-energy-innovation-and-carbon-dividend-act shows that the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act will effectively reduce America?s emissions by at least 40% within 12 years, grow the economy and create 2.1 million additional jobs over the next 10 years, improve our overall health and is revenue neutral; WHEREAS climate change should be neither a partisan nor a political issue, but a bridge to bring us together for our common future; WHEREAS America has the technology and the economic strength for bold climate action and time is of the essence; the actions we take, or fail to take, in the next few years will have repercussions for generations to come; and that we need public and political will to meet the challenge of stabilizing our climate; NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT. . . SIGN THE DECLARATION HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzxjyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform We members of the Biking Industry endorse an effective, efficient and equitable bipartisan, national carbon fee and dividend policy such as the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Acthttps://energyinnovationact.org/.
Kim Schaffer, Executive Director (she/her) Community Bike Works www.communitybikeworks.org cell: 484.554.8971
Celebrating 25 Years of Earn a Bike!
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Hi Robert,
I do not see the declaration as antagonistic;
Is there a specific part that concerns you?
The car has been given 100 years of resources- space, money, planning, power, law, etc.
It seems we need a shift towards human power for personal, community and planetary health.
I'd suggest we need to step up and amplify our voices for a livable future. That's what we're doing here in Missoula, Montana.
Bob Giordano, Director Free Cycles Missoula Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation
Quoting Robert Rands cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com:
I do not think the promotion of bicycling should be in such an
antagonistic position that degrades all forms of possible transport.
This has been a mistaken path that too much of the bicycling
community has been following, one which has been a detrimental to
all in the sphere of safety, access, and progress in a comprehensive
design for all modal forms.Sincerely, Robert Rands Board Member and Manager, SoPo Bikes, Reynoldstown https://sopobikes.org/
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 20:48:39 +0000 From: Kim Schaffer kim@communitybikeworks.org To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration
Hi friends, Would you consider signing this letter of support from members of
the biking industry calling for federal action on climate?
https://www.businessclimateleaders.org/bikingindustrydeclarationI expect Community Bike Works will be signing on shortly. Feel free to share. Kim Schaffer
Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration SIGN THE DECLARATION
HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzxjyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform Join your colleagues in the Biking Industry in raising your
collective voice to encourage Members of Congress to enact climate
solutions in an effective, bipartisan, economically supportive and
equitable way. BIKING INDUSTRY?S CLIMATE ACTION AND CARBON PRICING DECLARATION We, the Biking Industry of America, as business owners, leaders,
entrepreneurs, employers, avid outdoorsmen and women and citizens
hereby declare our strong recommendation for federal action to
mitigate the risks of climate change, allowing our businesses to
flourish and creating a healthy planet for all future generations. WHEREAS the recent
IPCChttps://report.ipcc.ch/sr15/pdf/sr15_spm_final.pdf and
National Climate Assessmenthttps://nca2018.globalchange.gov/
reports call for immediate action to stem the worst effects of
climate change; WHEREAS the biking industry is a rapidly growing and evolving
industry with an economic impact of over $81 billion domestically,
responsible for tens of thousands of jobs that serve the 48 million
cyclists in the US. WHEREAS biking and outdoor recreation facilities will be irreparably
damaged by the consequences of anthropogenic climate change which
include more severe weather, increasing temperatures, and larger
forest fires. WHEREAS the Lancet
Commissionhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)32596-6/fulltext has said that climate change is the greatest public health threat of this century, but it is also the greatest public health opportunity of this century. The Commission wrote: The single most powerful strategic instrument to inoculate human health against the risks of climate change is strong and sustained carbon
pricing; WHEREAS we are making substantial efforts and investments to reduce
our carbon footprint and to ensure that we and our supply chain are
sustainable and well positioned to avoid disruption from climate
events; WHEREAS: The American Medical
Associationhttps://www.ama-assn.org/topics/climate-change, along
with over 100 American health organizations, recommends that we ?put
a price on carbon that reflects its true social costs and phase out
investments in and subsidies for fossil fuels for energy extraction
and generation.? WHEREAS a fee-dividend structure on carbon encourages the use of
bicycles and other similar forms of human powered transportation, as
well as increasing the buying power of consumers to purchase said
products; WHEREAS: A bipartisan group of 3,500 luminary
economistshttps://clcouncil.org/economists-statement/ (including
all living former Federal Reserve chairs) endorses a carbon fee and
dividend as the best way to "reduce carbon emissions at the scale
and speed necessary," while also protecting the poor. WHEREAS
researchhttps://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/research/report/assessment-energy-innovation-and-carbon-dividend-act shows that the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act will effectively reduce America?s emissions by at least 40% within 12 years, grow the economy and create 2.1 million additional jobs over the next 10 years, improve our overall health and is revenue
neutral; WHEREAS climate change should be neither a partisan nor a political
issue, but a bridge to bring us together for our common future; WHEREAS America has the technology and the economic strength for
bold climate action and time is of the essence; the actions we take,
or fail to take, in the next few years will have repercussions for
generations to come; and that we need public and political will to
meet the challenge of stabilizing our climate; NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT. . . SIGN THE DECLARATION
HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzxjyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform We members of the Biking Industry endorse an effective, efficient
and equitable bipartisan, national carbon fee and dividend policy
such as the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend
Acthttps://energyinnovationact.org/.
Kim Schaffer, Executive Director (she/her) Community Bike Works www.communitybikeworks.org cell: 484.554.8971
Celebrating 25 Years of Earn a Bike!
Excellent response Bob Giordano.
"It seems we need a shift towards human power for personal, community and planetary health."
Our sentiments exactly.
Since I have had opportunity to experience Missoula's Free Cycles on several occasions and know it to be a very long-lived and successful effort, I may be reaching out to you for guidance as we work to restart Stetson Cycles, a once thriving, now dormant University-driven collective here in DeLand, Florida. I'm new to this group so hope it's OK to direct this to you and say thank you, Bob for all you do for Missoula and I hope you will have some words of wisdom for us when I get in contact.
Maggie Ellen Ardito St Johns River-to-Sea Loop Alliance For active, equitable mobility
-----Original Message----- From: Thethinktank thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org On Behalf Of Bob Giordano Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 8:42 PM To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Carbon Tax, for health, equity
Hi Robert,
I do not see the declaration as antagonistic;
Is there a specific part that concerns you?
The car has been given 100 years of resources- space, money, planning, power, law, etc.
It seems we need a shift towards human power for personal, community and planetary health.
I'd suggest we need to step up and amplify our voices for a livable future. That's what we're doing here in Missoula, Montana.
Bob Giordano, Director Free Cycles Missoula Missoula Institute for Sustainable Transportation
Quoting Robert Rands cheerfulharmony@yahoo.com:
I do not think the promotion of bicycling should be in such an antagonistic position that degrades all forms of possible transport. This has been a mistaken path that too much of the bicycling community has been following, one which has been a detrimental to all in the sphere of safety, access, and progress in a comprehensive design for all modal forms.
Sincerely, Robert Rands Board Member and Manager, SoPo Bikes, Reynoldstown https://sopobikes.org/
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 20:48:39 +0000 From: Kim Schaffer kim@communitybikeworks.org To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Subject: [TheThinkTank] Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration
Hi friends, Would you consider signing this letter of support from members of the biking industry calling for federal action on climate? https://www.businessclimateleaders.org/bikingindustrydeclaration
I expect Community Bike Works will be signing on shortly. Feel free to share. Kim Schaffer
Biking Industry?s Climate and Carbon Pricing Declaration SIGN THE DECLARATION HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzx jyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform Join your colleagues in the Biking Industry in raising your collective voice to encourage Members of Congress to enact climate solutions in an effective, bipartisan, economically supportive and equitable way. BIKING INDUSTRY?S CLIMATE ACTION AND CARBON PRICING DECLARATION We, the Biking Industry of America, as business owners, leaders, entrepreneurs, employers, avid outdoorsmen and women and citizens hereby declare our strong recommendation for federal action to mitigate the risks of climate change, allowing our businesses to flourish and creating a healthy planet for all future generations. WHEREAS the recent IPCChttps://report.ipcc.ch/sr15/pdf/sr15_spm_final.pdf and National Climate Assessmenthttps://nca2018.globalchange.gov/ reports call for immediate action to stem the worst effects of climate change; WHEREAS the biking industry is a rapidly growing and evolving industry with an economic impact of over $81 billion domestically, responsible for tens of thousands of jobs that serve the 48 million cyclists in the US. WHEREAS biking and outdoor recreation facilities will be irreparably damaged by the consequences of anthropogenic climate change which include more severe weather, increasing temperatures, and larger forest fires. WHEREAS the Lancet Commissionhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140- 6736(19)32596-6/fulltext has said that climate change is the greatest public health threat of this century, but it is also the greatest public health opportunity of this century. The Commission wrote: The single most powerful strategic instrument to inoculate human health against the risks of climate change is strong and sustained carbon pricing; WHEREAS we are making substantial efforts and investments to reduce our carbon footprint and to ensure that we and our supply chain are sustainable and well positioned to avoid disruption from climate events; WHEREAS: The American Medical Associationhttps://www.ama-assn.org/topics/climate-change, along with over 100 American health organizations, recommends that we ?put a price on carbon that reflects its true social costs and phase out investments in and subsidies for fossil fuels for energy extraction and generation.? WHEREAS a fee-dividend structure on carbon encourages the use of bicycles and other similar forms of human powered transportation, as well as increasing the buying power of consumers to purchase said products; WHEREAS: A bipartisan group of 3,500 luminary economistshttps://clcouncil.org/economists-statement/ (including all living former Federal Reserve chairs) endorses a carbon fee and dividend as the best way to "reduce carbon emissions at the scale and speed necessary," while also protecting the poor. WHEREAS researchhttps://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/research/report/assessm ent-energy-innovation-and-carbon-dividend-act shows that the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act will effectively reduce America?s emissions by at least 40% within 12 years, grow the economy and create 2.1 million additional jobs over the next 10 years, improve our overall health and is revenue neutral; WHEREAS climate change should be neither a partisan nor a political issue, but a bridge to bring us together for our common future; WHEREAS America has the technology and the economic strength for bold climate action and time is of the essence; the actions we take, or fail to take, in the next few years will have repercussions for generations to come; and that we need public and political will to meet the challenge of stabilizing our climate; NOW THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT. . . SIGN THE DECLARATION HEREhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSebfVz_JaDSQw4yvEfUUuXzx jyip7jYBLMVMkgty3_Mq5cPow/viewform We members of the Biking Industry endorse an effective, efficient and equitable bipartisan, national carbon fee and dividend policy such as the Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Acthttps://energyinnovationact.org/.
Kim Schaffer, Executive Director (she/her) Community Bike Works www.communitybikeworks.org cell: 484.554.8971
Celebrating 25 Years of Earn a Bike!
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Hi… Do many of us have a shop ride? I’m not sure any of them are official but it seems like bike shops and group rides go together. At the same time… There’s probably often an L-Word liability concern. I have to say this cranks me to no end. Liability relates to willful negligence. Not from people just doing what people do. And it’s a stretch to say that any adult can acquire responsibility for any other adult in almost any way.
(As an aside: What about Directors insurance — how many of us have that? Since the rise of the prominent role of insurance in our world I’ve seen maybe half of the cool community projects hurt by this all-pervasive web of policies and steady diversion of funds. Grrr... Has a Co-op ever had its directors sued? How about a volunteer shop?)
Anyway, is there a group ride that leaves from your parking lot? If not, why not? Is it because of the L-Word?
We’ve had a ride almost since our shop started. There’s been a (so delightful) semi-adversarial relationship the whole time b/w the shop-wrenches and those who gather for the ride. The ride has gotten big at times. But there’s a surprising (to me) effort to keep distance between the two things. So that… guess what? The hundred or so ppl who do the rides annually are never pitched or approached to further engage in the shop. I suppose it’s a no-brainer and doesn’t need any outreach. The shop has needs. The riders haven’t been asked to pitch in. Until last year. To help offset Covid the riders were explicitly told See this shop next to you? It needs help. Can you pitch in, in appreciation for gathering here? It worked. It even gathered a couple new loyal volunteers. But the outreach ended there.
I’ve known a buncha shops over the years: it seems a common thing that wrenches don’t ride. So there’s that. Some do, some don’t. But I’d say that usually at least one shop person is gungho for riding.
Our shop used to host a monthly full-moon ride. As helpers have dwindled, it faded. Strangely the shop ride had mostly different riders from the weekly parking lot ride.
Oh well: Ride dynamics are interesting to me.
Jeff Potter Lansing, MI
Hi… Do many of us have a shop ride? I’m not sure any of them are official but it seems like bike shops and group rides go together. At the same time… There’s probably often an L-Word liability concern. I have to say this cranks me to no end. Liability relates to willful negligence. Not from people just doing what people do. And it’s a stretch to say that any adult can acquire responsibility for any other adult in almost any way.
(As an aside: What about Directors insurance — how many of us have that? Since the rise of the prominent role of insurance in our world I’ve seen maybe half of the cool community projects hurt by this all-pervasive web of policies and steady diversion of funds. Grrr... Has a Co-op ever had its directors sued? How about a volunteer shop?)
Anyway, is there a group ride that leaves from your parking lot? If not, why not? Is it because of the L-Word?
We’ve had a ride almost since our shop started. There’s been a (so delightful) semi-adversarial relationship the whole time b/w the shop-wrenches and those who gather for the ride. The ride has gotten big at times. But there’s a surprising (to me) effort to keep distance between the two things. So that… guess what? The hundred or so ppl who do the rides annually are never pitched or approached to further engage in the shop. I suppose it’s a no-brainer and doesn’t need any outreach. The shop has needs. The riders haven’t been asked to pitch in. Until last year. To help offset Covid the riders were explicitly told See this shop next to you? It needs help. Can you pitch in, in appreciation for gathering here? It worked. It even gathered a couple new loyal volunteers. But the outreach ended there.
I’ve known a buncha shops over the years: it seems a common thing that wrenches don’t ride. So there’s that. Some do, some don’t. But I’d say that usually at least one shop person is gungho for riding.
Our shop used to host a monthly full-moon ride. As helpers have dwindled, it faded. Strangely the shop ride had mostly different riders from the weekly parking lot ride.
Oh well: Ride dynamics are interesting to me.
Jeff Potter Lansing, MI
Regarding liability: at the AMS Bike Co-op/Bike Kitchen at UBC we are very fortunate to be part of a much larger organization (The Alma Mater Society, i.e. the Student Union). We're constituted as two rather special student clubs and benefit from all the same legal protection as like the Quiddich Club or the Pottery Club. We're also in Canada where the liability-paralysis problem isn't so bad (yet).
I used to organize very small (1-10 people) group rides. In principle these were advertised to the whole list of volunteers and general membership, and some of them did show up, but it was mostly senior volunteers/board members/staff who showed up. At the time there were several people who were staff who had previously been volunteer directors so I didn't notice a "wrenches don't ride" trend, thought it might have been present.
These were all-day tours, not spirited roadie rides but also not just casual rambles. The shop door wasn't a great spot for starting those - what with being at the end of a peninsula and at the top of a hill. I generally started them near a convenient public transit hub for the given ride. At my peak I think I had 1 or 2 of these going each month.
Other members of the Co-op organized other rides, including overnight camping trips, beach crawls, I remember a bubble tea/bakery crawl that left me stuffed.
My advice: organize the rides separately from the official programs of your organization. Make it clear that it's technically just individuals deciding to meet at a specific place with the intent to ride to another place. Set up a separate email list for people who are interested. That list can be promoted by your organization like any other community event.
Jean-François
On 2021-03-15 4:30 p.m., Jeff Potter wrote:
Hi… Do many of us have a shop ride? I’m not sure any of them are official but it seems like bike shops and group rides go together. At the same time… There’s probably often an L-Word liability concern. I have to say this cranks me to no end. Liability relates to willful negligence. Not from people just doing what people do. And it’s a stretch to say that any adult can acquire responsibility for any other adult in almost any way.
(As an aside: What about Directors insurance — how many of us have that? Since the rise of the prominent role of insurance in our world I’ve seen maybe half of the cool community projects hurt by this all-pervasive web of policies and steady diversion of funds. Grrr... Has a Co-op ever had its directors sued? How about a volunteer shop?)
Anyway, is there a group ride that leaves from your parking lot? If not, why not? Is it because of the L-Word?
We’ve had a ride almost since our shop started. There’s been a (so delightful) semi-adversarial relationship the whole time b/w the shop-wrenches and those who gather for the ride. The ride has gotten big at times. But there’s a surprising (to me) effort to keep distance between the two things. So that… guess what? The hundred or so ppl who do the rides annually are never pitched or approached to further engage in the shop. I suppose it’s a no-brainer and doesn’t need any outreach. The shop has needs. The riders haven’t been asked to pitch in. Until last year. To help offset Covid the riders were explicitly told See this shop next to you? It needs help. Can you pitch in, in appreciation for gathering here? It worked. It even gathered a couple new loyal volunteers. But the outreach ended there.
I’ve known a buncha shops over the years: it seems a common thing that wrenches don’t ride. So there’s that. Some do, some don’t. But I’d say that usually at least one shop person is gungho for riding.
Our shop used to host a monthly full-moon ride. As helpers have dwindled, it faded. Strangely the shop ride had mostly different riders from the weekly parking lot ride.
Oh well: Ride dynamics are interesting to me.
Jeff Potter Lansing, MI ____________________________________
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