So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
It's a shame. The dates conflict with many events here in Portland too. I have emailed the current address for Bike! Bike! 2012 and never received a reply. I wonder what's going on with the event organization?
Frank http://www.bikefarm.org
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
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I'm assuming because velo city is the next week in the same town, which is $ for people who might be attending both.
Just assuming.
N
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On Jan 20, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Frank frank@bikefarm.org wrote:
It's a shame. The dates conflict with many events here in Portland too. I have emailed the current address for Bike! Bike! 2012 and never received a reply. I wonder what's going on with the event organization?
Frank http://www.bikefarm.org
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote: So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
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Sadly, we in Des Moines have the same problem with a June event.
Too bad. I've learned lots from attending just two Bike! Bike! events.
Turf experts for golf courses meet in the winter. Makes sense! They, too, would have a tough time breaking away for summer training/symposium/convention/networking.
Carl Voss Des Moines Bicycle Collective
On Jan 20, 2012, at 01:58 PM, Frank frank@bikefarm.org wrote:
It's a shame. The dates conflict with many events here in Portland too. I have emailed the current address for Bike! Bike! 2012 and never received a reply. I wonder what's going on with the event organization?
Frank http://www.bikefarm.org
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend. We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year. Frustrated! -- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C) CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!/CommunityCycles Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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I don't have my notes from last year's final workshop readily available (the wiki isn't as helpful as I'd like), but I do recall the Vancouver contingent suggesting hosting it either in September or June, to coincide with one of two big bike events going on. There was a strong sense from the other participants that September would be a Bad Idea, since the student community is such a big part of the bike collective community. Since San Marcos hosted so successfully last year (June 24-26), Vancouver had a strong precedent to go off of, and the late June timing allows them to try to tie it in to this year's Velo-city conference, as well.
--Ryan S.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!**/CommunityCycleshttp://facebook.com/home.php#%21/CommunityCycles Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month.
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Ask a student if they can miss a weekend in the the first week or two of school vs. missing finals. Most colleges have finals in June, so I don't think decision works that well for students either.
We were hoping to attend this year as well, September would be possible, June is not.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 w http://www.slcbikecollective.orgww.bicyclecollective.org
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ryan Sharpe sharpe@sacbikekitchen.orgwrote:
I don't have my notes from last year's final workshop readily available (the wiki isn't as helpful as I'd like), but I do recall the Vancouver contingent suggesting hosting it either in September or June, to coincide with one of two big bike events going on. There was a strong sense from the other participants that September would be a Bad Idea, since the student community is such a big part of the bike collective community. Since San Marcos hosted so successfully last year (June 24-26), Vancouver had a strong precedent to go off of, and the late June timing allows them to try to tie it in to this year's Velo-city conference, as well.
--Ryan S.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!**/CommunityCycleshttp://facebook.com/home.php#%21/CommunityCycles Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month.
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I think most of your West Coast colleges are on the trimester system; most of ours here get out by mid-May with semesters.
Either way, not sure the Durham Bike Co-op can come- that's also our peak shop season.
Best, Leslie
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan Morrison < jonathan@slcbikecollective.org> wrote:
Ask a student if they can miss a weekend in the the first week or two of school vs. missing finals. Most colleges have finals in June, so I don't think decision works that well for students either.
We were hoping to attend this year as well, September would be possible, June is not.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 w http://www.slcbikecollective.orgww.bicyclecollective.org
The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ryan Sharpe sharpe@sacbikekitchen.orgwrote:
I don't have my notes from last year's final workshop readily available (the wiki isn't as helpful as I'd like), but I do recall the Vancouver contingent suggesting hosting it either in September or June, to coincide with one of two big bike events going on. There was a strong sense from the other participants that September would be a Bad Idea, since the student community is such a big part of the bike collective community. Since San Marcos hosted so successfully last year (June 24-26), Vancouver had a strong precedent to go off of, and the late June timing allows them to try to tie it in to this year's Velo-city conference, as well.
--Ryan S.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.com wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!**/CommunityCycleshttp://facebook.com/home.php#%21/CommunityCycles Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month.
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August sometime would be dreamy...
Maybe this debate on a perfect time for bike bike can open up a whole theory on a winter bike bike...ie a bike bike held in the off season. On Jan 20, 2012 4:00 PM, "Leslie Peteya" lesliepeteya@gmail.com wrote:
I think most of your West Coast colleges are on the trimester system; most of ours here get out by mid-May with semesters.
Either way, not sure the Durham Bike Co-op can come- that's also our peak shop season.
Best, Leslie
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan Morrison < jonathan@slcbikecollective.org> wrote:
Ask a student if they can miss a weekend in the the first week or two of school vs. missing finals. Most colleges have finals in June, so I don't think decision works that well for students either.
We were hoping to attend this year as well, September would be possible, June is not.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 w http://www.slcbikecollective.orgww.bicyclecollective.org
The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ryan Sharpe sharpe@sacbikekitchen.orgwrote:
I don't have my notes from last year's final workshop readily available (the wiki isn't as helpful as I'd like), but I do recall the Vancouver contingent suggesting hosting it either in September or June, to coincide with one of two big bike events going on. There was a strong sense from the other participants that September would be a Bad Idea, since the student community is such a big part of the bike collective community. Since San Marcos hosted so successfully last year (June 24-26), Vancouver had a strong precedent to go off of, and the late June timing allows them to try to tie it in to this year's Velo-city conference, as well.
--Ryan S.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points poster@richpoints.comwrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
-- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 (W) 303-589-0597 (C)
CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!**/CommunityCycleshttp://facebook.com/home.php#%21/CommunityCycles Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month.
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Okay, read the rest of the thread. Just a reminder. Winter is PEAK season for the deep south, from Florida to California. So, yeah, there is no perfect resolution.
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 3:24 PM, Geoffrey Bercarich wrote:
August sometime would be dreamy...
Maybe this debate on a perfect time for bike bike can open up a whole theory on a winter bike bike...ie a bike bike held in the off season.
On Jan 20, 2012 4:00 PM, "Leslie Peteya" <lesliepeteya@gmail.com mailto:lesliepeteya@gmail.com> wrote:
I think most of your West Coast colleges are on the trimester system; most of ours here get out by mid-May with semesters. Either way, not sure the Durham Bike Co-op can come- that's also our peak shop season. Best, Leslie On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Jonathan Morrison <jonathan@slcbikecollective.org <mailto:jonathan@slcbikecollective.org>> wrote: Ask a student if they can miss a weekend in the the first week or two of school vs. missing finals. Most colleges have finals in June, so I don't think decision works that well for students either. We were hoping to attend this year as well, September would be possible, June is not. Sincerely, Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 <tel:801-328-2453> c: 801-688-0183 <tel:801-688-0183> f: 801-466-3856 <tel:801-466-3856> w <http://www.slcbikecollective.org>ww.bicyclecollective.org <http://ww.bicyclecollective.org> The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Ryan Sharpe <sharpe@sacbikekitchen.org <mailto:sharpe@sacbikekitchen.org>> wrote: I don't have my notes from last year's final workshop readily available (the wiki isn't as helpful as I'd like), but I do recall the Vancouver contingent suggesting hosting it either in September or June, to coincide with one of two big bike events going on. There was a strong sense from the other participants that September would be a Bad Idea, since the student community is such a big part of the bike collective community. Since San Marcos hosted so successfully last year (June 24-26), Vancouver had a strong precedent to go off of, and the late June timing allows them to try to tie it in to this year's Velo-city conference, as well. --Ryan S. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:38 AM, R Points <poster@richpoints.com <mailto:poster@richpoints.com>> wrote: So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend. We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year. Frustrated! -- Rich Points Community Cycles Executive Director http://CommunityCycles.org Rich@CommunityCycles.org 720-565-6019 <tel:720-565-6019> (W) 303-589-0597 <tel:303-589-0597> (C) CC is Boulder's only bike shop dedicated to bike commuting. Find us on FaceBook http://facebook.com/home.php#!/CommunityCycles <http://facebook.com/home.php#%21/CommunityCycles> Volunteer orientations are held 6p.m. on the 4th Wednesday of each month. _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org -- Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen http://sacbikekitchen.org/ 1915 I Street, Midtown Sacramento Open Tu 6-9p, We 6-9p, Th 6-9p, Fr 10a-2p (kids 6-8p), Sa 12-4p _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Disagree that it become "unsustainable". Eventually it gets to a point where it "is" sustainable.
At that point everyone chips in a small amount of money and then the people who spend countless hours organizing get compensated for their time. Then they can spend more time making it even better.
Just another way to look at it.
Noah
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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i just meant unsustainable in its current format.
i can't see 5000 people showing up to any of our shops for the weekend and having even close to the same kind of experience i have at the three i was lucky to have been to.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Reno Bikes renobikeproject@gmail.comwrote:
Disagree that it become "unsustainable". Eventually it gets to a point where it "is" sustainable.
At that point everyone chips in a small amount of money and then the people who spend countless hours organizing get compensated for their time. Then they can spend more time making it even better.
Just another way to look at it.
Noah
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.comwrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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There's probably no such thing as a "good" time for everyone. But June doesn't look like it's going to work for the folks at the Boise Bicycle Project either. Just too busy with the shop and the annual 2 week Pedal 4 the People festival. I have a filling that someone will be left out no matter what, and it sounds like June with leave a lot of folks out. Good luck with this one Vancouver.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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This conversation seems to repeat itself each year, and yes, there is no *best* time for everyone. There are too many variables (including climate) to consider.
However, this conversation always seems to disregard one important element
- that the folks who have volunteered their time, lives, couches, shops and
love to running this conference have put a great deal of thought and consideration toward when they will be hosting us. They need to know that all of the resources they require will be available and that they are not competing with any other large local events (plus a myriad of other factors of course).
I also can't really imagine a *time* when a group can not attend. In my mind, you are either doing awesome and in the peak of your season, and you can easily spare a volunteer or two who want a weekend off for fun and learning - you get the most volunteers during peak bike season, right? OR you are small and starting up and struggling in one way or another in which case you can definitely afford to close your shop for 3 or 4 days (maybe 1 or 2 of which are operating days) because of the amazing value of the information and tools that you will bring back to your space after Bike!Bike!
For me, B!B! is my once-a-year vacation, and I schedule it into my summer. It is an excuse to get to visit cities and people I would otherwise never get to see. I think Vancouver is going to be awesome, and I give huge thanks and high fives to my friends who are bottom-lining this big project.
x ainsley - Bike Pirates, Toronto.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jimmy Hallyburton < jimmy@boisebicycleproject.org> wrote:
There's probably no such thing as a "good" time for everyone. But June doesn't look like it's going to work for the folks at the Boise Bicycle Project either. Just too busy with the shop and the annual 2 week Pedal 4 the People festival. I have a filling that someone will be left out no matter what, and it sounds like June with leave a lot of folks out. Good luck with this one Vancouver.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.comwrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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thanks for the thoughts everyone,
i have been involved in bike!bike! for the last 6 years as a workshop planner and shop founder and i am proud to finally live (coincidentally though it may be) in this year's hosting city. please know that planning is underway and we will update you soon via the website (www.bikebike.orgfor those of you who are new.)
those of you who have posted concerns have been to a handful of the conferences, and as many people have pointed out, your off-season is someone else's peak season. try to find someone at your shop/in your town who wants to become involved, isn't as busy as you, and send them as a delegate. i'm new to vancouver so i'm not in a position to list all of the details of the date choice, but i am completely confident that june is not peak season for every shop for every town/city/backyard/bike nerd/etc.
we will be sending out mailers soon and updating the website again, so please hold tight and try to be patient with us. also answer your phones, i need to double check the list before i start sending mail! :) it's going to be a great conference, we have lots of fun things planned and a very exciting philosophy tumbling around for how we want the workshops to be set up. vancouver is a very unique place and we want to share that with you. we will try to keep everyone posted via the website and this list as we get closer to june.
also keep in mind that i am speaking for myself and not on behalf of the planning group. i don't work for any shop at the moment and all of my bikey energy is being independently devoted to this conference. i know the history of bikebike, have attended half of the conferences, and care passionately about the outcomes of this very special week. i know a lot of you and i am looking forward to seeing my old friends and making some new ones.
<3
sunny (allison)
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.comwrote:
This conversation seems to repeat itself each year, and yes, there is no *best* time for everyone. There are too many variables (including climate) to consider.
However, this conversation always seems to disregard one important element
- that the folks who have volunteered their time, lives, couches, shops and
love to running this conference have put a great deal of thought and consideration toward when they will be hosting us. They need to know that all of the resources they require will be available and that they are not competing with any other large local events (plus a myriad of other factors of course).
I also can't really imagine a *time* when a group can not attend. In my mind, you are either doing awesome and in the peak of your season, and you can easily spare a volunteer or two who want a weekend off for fun and learning - you get the most volunteers during peak bike season, right? OR you are small and starting up and struggling in one way or another in which case you can definitely afford to close your shop for 3 or 4 days (maybe 1 or 2 of which are operating days) because of the amazing value of the information and tools that you will bring back to your space after Bike!Bike!
For me, B!B! is my once-a-year vacation, and I schedule it into my summer. It is an excuse to get to visit cities and people I would otherwise never get to see. I think Vancouver is going to be awesome, and I give huge thanks and high fives to my friends who are bottom-lining this big project.
x ainsley - Bike Pirates, Toronto.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jimmy Hallyburton < jimmy@boisebicycleproject.org> wrote:
There's probably no such thing as a "good" time for everyone. But June doesn't look like it's going to work for the folks at the Boise Bicycle Project either. Just too busy with the shop and the annual 2 week Pedal 4 the People festival. I have a filling that someone will be left out no matter what, and it sounds like June with leave a lot of folks out. Good luck with this one Vancouver.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.comwrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND
members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think
it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for
all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I
understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders < momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND
members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think
it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I
understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Yes! I would like to be involved. How can I go about doing that? I live in Portland OR. I'm also planning a bike tour from Portland to VC which I've been meaning to talk to the planners about.
I don't have great video documentation devices, but I'm not sure if that's what's needed. What seems to be most needed is a central place to upload all the pictures and thoughts and moments that individual's document. Facebook seemed to be the place that was most simple, but there are issues with the group constantly changing...
I'd love to hear what you all are already planning so I don't re-think the obvious.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.orgwrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders < momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum
AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i
think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so
I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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You could upload the videos on youtube, and then embed them on the bike collective wiki.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM, momoko saunders analyst@bikefarm.orgwrote:
Yes! I would like to be involved. How can I go about doing that? I live in Portland OR. I'm also planning a bike tour from Portland to VC which I've been meaning to talk to the planners about.
I don't have great video documentation devices, but I'm not sure if that's what's needed. What seems to be most needed is a central place to upload all the pictures and thoughts and moments that individual's document. Facebook seemed to be the place that was most simple, but there are issues with the group constantly changing...
I'd love to hear what you all are already planning so I don't re-think the obvious.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.orgwrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders < momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum
AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i
think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so
I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Yes
On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.org wrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders momoko@securecellardoor.com.au wrote: A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B nolabikeproject@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Just a head's up that the Bike!Bike! domain expired today and the website is down. I can't recall who is in charge of that but ensuring we keep that domain would be nice :)
ainsley.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Momoko mrmomoko@gmail.com wrote:
Yes
On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.org wrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.combikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders <momoko@securecellardoor.com.au momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, < veganboyjosh@gmail.com veganboyjosh@gmail.com> wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum
AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i
think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B < nolabikeproject@gmail.com
nolabikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so
I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Domain is back up. The SLC Bike Collective has been paying for it.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org
The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.comwrote:
Just a head's up that the Bike!Bike! domain expired today and the website is down. I can't recall who is in charge of that but ensuring we keep that domain would be nice :)
ainsley.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Momoko mrmomoko@gmail.com wrote:
Yes
On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.org wrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.combikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders <momoko@securecellardoor.com.au momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, < veganboyjosh@gmail.com veganboyjosh@gmail.com> wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum
AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i
think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B < nolabikeproject@gmail.com
nolabikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so
I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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Nice!
On 1/25/2012 4:51 PM, Jonathan Morrison wrote:
Domain is back up. The SLC Bike Collective has been paying for it.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison Executive Director Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective 2312 S. West Temple Salt Lake City, UT 84115 w: 801-328-2453 c: 801-688-0183 f: 801-466-3856 www.slcbikecollective.org http://www.slcbikecollective.org
The mission of the Salt Lake City Bicycle Collective is to promote cycling as an effective and sustainable form of transportation and as a cornerstone of a cleaner, healthier, and safer society. The Bicycle Collective provides refurbished bicycles and educational programs to the community, focusing on children and lower income households.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ainsley Naylor <needleandthread@gmail.com mailto:needleandthread@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a head's up that the Bike!Bike! domain expired today and the website is down. I can't recall who is in charge of that but ensuring we keep that domain would be nice :) ainsley. On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Momoko <mrmomoko@gmail.com <mailto:mrmomoko@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow <sunny@bikesaviours.org <mailto:sunny@bikesaviours.org>> wrote:momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com <mailto:bikebike2012@gmail.com>. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders <momoko@securecellardoor.com.au <mailto:momoko@securecellardoor.com.au>> wrote: A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video. It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend. I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events. -momoko On Friday, January 20, 2012, <veganboyjosh@gmail.com <mailto:veganboyjosh@gmail.com>> wrote: > there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did? > > there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version". > > and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years. > > for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it. > > it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding. > > what would it mean if none of us had a busy season? > > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B <nolabikeproject@gmail.com <mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hey Rich, >> >> There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out. >> >> Love ya! >> Victor >> >> Victor Pizarro >> Project Organizer >> Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project >> >> >> On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote: >>> >>> So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend. >>> >>> We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year. >>> >>> Frustrated! >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org_______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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Hmm, I'm seeing it live now. Did someone fix this?
Rich
On 1/25/2012 3:50 PM, Ainsley Naylor wrote:
Just a head's up that the Bike!Bike! domain expired today and the website is down. I can't recall who is in charge of that but ensuring we keep that domain would be nice :)
ainsley.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Momoko <mrmomoko@gmail.com mailto:mrmomoko@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow <sunny@bikesaviours.org <mailto:sunny@bikesaviours.org>> wrote:momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.com <mailto:bikebike2012@gmail.com>. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders <momoko@securecellardoor.com.au <mailto:momoko@securecellardoor.com.au>> wrote: A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video. It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend. I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events. -momoko On Friday, January 20, 2012, <veganboyjosh@gmail.com <mailto:veganboyjosh@gmail.com>> wrote: > there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did? > > there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version". > > and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years. > > for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be witnessing it. > > it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding. > > what would it mean if none of us had a busy season? > > > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B <nolabikeproject@gmail.com <mailto:nolabikeproject@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hey Rich, >> >> There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out. >> >> Love ya! >> Victor >> >> Victor Pizarro >> Project Organizer >> Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project >> >> >> On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote: >>> >>> So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend. >>> >>> We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year. >>> >>> Frustrated! >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org_______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org <mailto:Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org <mailto:TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org> To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
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it looks up to me...did someone already renew it? thanks for the heads up ains
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Ainsley Naylor needleandthread@gmail.comwrote:
Just a head's up that the Bike!Bike! domain expired today and the website is down. I can't recall who is in charge of that but ensuring we keep that domain would be nice :)
ainsley.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Momoko mrmomoko@gmail.com wrote:
Yes
On Jan 21, 2012, at 10:11 AM, allison karow sunny@bikesaviours.org wrote:
momoko, do you want to be in touch with the planning team ? bikebike2012@gmail.combikebike2012@gmail.com. we were discussing this at our last meeting and would love to hear more about what you have in mind.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, momoko saunders <momoko@securecellardoor.com.au momoko@securecellardoor.com.au> wrote:
A way to help with the shift to more attendies or people who wish they could go to bike bike! would be to have better documentation. Last time, in San Marcos, we put the schedule and notes up on the wiki. We could do a lot more documentation with video.
It won't replace going of course, because a lot of the magic happens out of the workshops. But better documentation would help and would also encourage people who had never come before to attend.
I'll be going to this one and I'm hoping to document as much as possible. Certainly notes, but also video (as long as everyone is cool with that) and having amore central place to have photos and archives from past events.
-momoko
On Friday, January 20, 2012, < veganboyjosh@gmail.com veganboyjosh@gmail.com> wrote:
there's also the fact that as this movement grows and gains momentum
AND members, more folks will be interested in attending BikeBike! every year. which, at a certain point, becomes unsustainable. can you imagine what the weekend would be like with 1000 attendees? 5000? would your organization want to put it on if it did?
there's obviously no threshold at which it becomes "too big",but i
think it'll happen in a sort of organic way, with a shop here or there not attending "The Big One" or shifting their focus to a more regional "version".
and i think this is what's been happening in the last few years.
for the record, i think it's an awesome thing and i'm very happy to be
witnessing it.
it is frustrating and sad to think that it's only going to get harder
for all of us to come together for a kick ass weekend anymore, but that just means we're succeeding.
what would it mean if none of us had a busy season?
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Plan B < nolabikeproject@gmail.com
nolabikeproject@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Rich,
There's a lot of different seasons. Ours is September through May, so
I understand your anguish, but if New Orleans gets it next year, We're shooting for late September...which means a lot of University folks might not make it, but y'all will. Just wanted to point it out.
Love ya! Victor
Victor Pizarro Project Organizer Plan B, The New Orleans COmmunity Bike Project
On 1/20/2012 1:38 PM, R Points wrote:
So I just checked the Bike! Bike! website and I see that this years
event is scheduled for June 21-24. Why? This is literally the peak of the season and makes it impossible for us to attend.
We've been to 3 Bike! Bike!'s in the past and they were some of the
most magical, inspiring events for our group; invaluable. It's a shame that we will again not be able to attend this year.
Frustrated!
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