Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
Erik @ The Recyclery (Chicago)
In the case of the co-op I volunteered at, we left the choosing and pickup of abandoned bikes to the university. They already had a system in place to remove abandoned bikes from campus, but didn't have a "good" way of disposing of them. The co-op came along and provided a win-win situation. Same thing was essentially true for the local municipalities. They would contact us when they had bikes available.
In this way... the university/municipality takes the risk of dealing with an irate student/citizen who thinks their bike was stolen. It should be noted, however, that it was rare in my experience to have someone come in after the fact and claim a bike. It was equally rare to actually get high quality bikes in this fashion. Most of the bikes that are abandoned are low end bikes. Sometimes you run across some good bikes, but the x-mart bike percentage is high.
Another thing to note... some of the bikes will be very poor quality and not even good for parts. You'll want to have the ability to pick and choose which bikes you take in... leaving the rest for the university/municipality to dispose of. Or if you can get a good rate on scrap metal... you might decide that it's worth volunteer time to strip the bikes and get the scrap metal money.
Oh yeah... the volume can, at times, be overwhelming. Make sure you have enough warehouse space to take the bikes in as needed. Or, if the university/municipality can do it... have them store the bikes for you until you can fit them into your warehouse space.
Anyway... that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I'm not involved with a co-op right now since my move... though I hear that my new local collective is really great (Salt Lake City).
--sam
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Erik Stockmeier eriks@therecyclery.orgwrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
Erik @ The Recyclery (Chicago)
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The Milwaukee Bicycle Collective has a working relationship with UW-Milwaukee for donations. This past semester break we received about 50 bikes that were abandoned for at least 6 months. We got their attention by cold calling, saying essentially that you got em, dont want em, we need em and the campus police were more than willing to comply. State schools have a fairly rigid acquisition process, but we have had more success with the state school than our private college (Marquette). Most importantly though, in accepting the donations, you agree to accept all of the bikes they are unloading and most bikes happen to be utter shit. Worse than what we would consider our worst bikes (consider the detritus of seven years of donations) we have ended up recycling a good portion of them.
Jim On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Erik Stockmeier eriks@therecyclery.orgwrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
Erik @ The Recyclery (Chicago)
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Thanks for all the replies. These arrangements both touch on what we have with our local u right now, which is basically that we show up and take what they don't want. The problem is that this often comes back to hit us in a double whammy. We have to make a bunch of trips and pull these things out of storage, 2 at a time using an elevator and everything, we end up scrapping 90% of them and then the bikes that they sold themselves at the campus bike sale come into our open shops looking like hell. Now we are talking to the school's environmental group to try and set up some kind of lasting partnership. We've had mixed (almost no) success working with these ephemeral student groups in the past, but what the hey.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM, jim hifilofi@gmail.com wrote:
The Milwaukee Bicycle Collective has a working relationship with UW-Milwaukee for donations. This past semester break we received about 50 bikes that were abandoned for at least 6 months. We got their attention by cold calling, saying essentially that you got em, dont want em, we need em and the campus police were more than willing to comply. State schools have a fairly rigid acquisition process, but we have had more success with the state school than our private college (Marquette). Most importantly though, in accepting the donations, you agree to accept all of the bikes they are unloading and most bikes happen to be utter shit. Worse than what we would consider our worst bikes (consider the detritus of seven years of donations) we have ended up recycling a good portion of them.
Jim On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Erik Stockmeier eriks@therecyclery.orgwrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
Erik @ The Recyclery (Chicago)
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Hey Erick, all,
In Boulder, we have an agreement with our local state school. We get a call from them about twice a year to go pick up the bikes they've cleaned off of the racks. Based on everyone else's responses, it sounds like we find much better bikes than some other groups. Could be the affluence of CU students? Boulder does have a reputation for having a lot of trust funders, for whatever that's worth. What it means for us is that we do wind up with some fancy bikes coming from the school. I think it's a function of the bike racks being outside huge dorm buildings, and for a lot of students their bike is the last thing they think of--if they think of it at all--when it's time to move out and pack the car.
The school has it's own little bike rental setup, and they get first dibs on the abandoned bikes. They clean and refurbish them, and use them in their own rental/checkout fleet for students. We sometimes get the ones which have been through that program donated to us, and they're usually beat to crap.
I would echo what someone else said in this thread. Whatever agreement or arrangement you have, make sure the bikes have been through the process that the school or police department has before you get your hands on them. That way, if/when someone comes in 9 months to a year later looking for their "red 10 speed...i think it was a raleigh or a trek..." you can let them know that the cops held it for however long before your shop got it. we've had this happen several times. We also have several storage units full of bikes waiting to be worked on or claimed, and unless the bike happens to be in the shop at the moment when they call or drop in, there's little we can do to help them find their bike.
There is a local individual here who's researched what it takes to claim a bike that one thinks is abandoned, via proper police procedure, filing a claim, etc. He's done a lot of work, and wants us to help publicize the procedure so that community members can reclaim local bikes they think are abandoned, but the few times I've spoken with him, it just seems counter to our mission, and we have enough to do without explaining obscure police procedures to folks who want to claim what may very well not be an abandoned bike. I only bring this person up because he's come to us a few times saying that the police mistakenly gave us a bike he had "dibs" on via this procedure. I had to explain to him that there's not much we can do, since we don't catalog incoming bikes since they've been sitting at the PD for at least 90 days.
I also forwarded your email to a contact I have at the Univerity's bike station/transportation office. If he gets back to me I'll let you know. Any helpful info I will post to the entire list.
josh.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Erik Stockmeier eriks@therecyclery.orgwrote:
Thanks for all the replies. These arrangements both touch on what we have with our local u right now, which is basically that we show up and take what they don't want. The problem is that this often comes back to hit us in a double whammy. We have to make a bunch of trips and pull these things out of storage, 2 at a time using an elevator and everything, we end up scrapping 90% of them and then the bikes that they sold themselves at the campus bike sale come into our open shops looking like hell. Now we are talking to the school's environmental group to try and set up some kind of lasting partnership. We've had mixed (almost no) success working with these ephemeral student groups in the past, but what the hey.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM, jim hifilofi@gmail.com wrote:
The Milwaukee Bicycle Collective has a working relationship with UW-Milwaukee for donations. This past semester break we received about 50 bikes that were abandoned for at least 6 months. We got their attention by cold calling, saying essentially that you got em, dont want em, we need em and the campus police were more than willing to comply. State schools have a fairly rigid acquisition process, but we have had more success with the state school than our private college (Marquette). Most importantly though, in accepting the donations, you agree to accept all of the bikes they are unloading and most bikes happen to be utter shit. Worse than what we would consider our worst bikes (consider the detritus of seven years of donations) we have ended up recycling a good portion of them.
Jim On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Erik Stockmeier eriks@therecyclery.orgwrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
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We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community
organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old
bike ? That you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do
something good with it?
Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix
your bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German
anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local
municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know
the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up
donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number
of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up
a structured collection program and are looking for ways to
proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you
attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello,
this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the
recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for
your help!Erik @ The Recyclery (Chicago) _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o...
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe wendy.monroe@usermail.com wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the 'Fix your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ? That you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something good with it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix your bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations from police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and a campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have a specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of something that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can fix it up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
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we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a impoverished community.
You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to wirthy non-profits. What a shame.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe wendy.monroe@usermail.com wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ?
That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something good
with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix your bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations
from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and
a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured collection program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have
a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can
fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for your help!
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Something we're just coming around to when it comes to accepting these donations is that we are doing the "donating" group a huge favor by showing up and cleaning out their space of these unwanted bikes. As we all know, schlepping and storing unused or broken bikes gets old really quick. Keep this in mind when approaching the group you'd like to donate the bikes. Use it as a selling point. "Got bikes you need removed? We'll remove them for you!" sounds better to a lot of larger organizations like schools or property management companies than "If you have bikes you'd like to donate..."
Remember, you're doing them a favor. It just so happens that the "rubbish" you're removing is getting reused and benefited from. Similar to the "1-800-GOT JUNK" place. They charge you to come out and take your stuff. They don't just landfill everything they pick up but it goes somewhere...
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Geoffrey B vous.je@gmail.com wrote:
we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a impoverished community.
You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to wirthy non-profits. What a shame.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe wendy.monroe@usermail.com wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ?
That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something good
with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix
your
bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations
from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers and
a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured
collection
program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example, have
a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can
fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for
your
help!
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Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an arrangement with the city on abandoned bikes? We are working on setting this up in Davis, but it would be nice to have a model to follow, especially if the model fits into California law with regards to what a city can do with abandoned property.
Jason
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
Something we're just coming around to when it comes to accepting these donations is that we are doing the "donating" group a huge favor by showing up and cleaning out their space of these unwanted bikes. As we all know, schlepping and storing unused or broken bikes gets old really quick. Keep this in mind when approaching the group you'd like to donate the bikes. Use it as a selling point. "Got bikes you need removed? We'll remove them for you!" sounds better to a lot of larger organizations like schools or property management companies than "If you have bikes you'd like to donate..."
Remember, you're doing them a favor. It just so happens that the "rubbish" you're removing is getting reused and benefited from. Similar to the "1-800-GOT JUNK" place. They charge you to come out and take your stuff. They don't just landfill everything they pick up but it goes somewhere...
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Geoffrey B vous.je@gmail.com wrote:
we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a impoverished community.
You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to wirthy non-profits. What a shame.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe wendy.monroe@usermail.com wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ?
That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something good
with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix
your
bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations
from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers
and a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured
collection
program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example,
have a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can
fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for
your
help!
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Well, 6 cycling groups (2 advocacy groups and 4 co-ops) just
collaborated on a grant proposal to the LA County Department of Public
Health as they sought funding from the CDC. Part of the proposal was
to create a "Bike Acquisition Czar," a job for someone to collect
bicycles from the Metro, LAPD and other sources and then redistribute
them any of the 6 groups that would need them.
The LADPH just awarded their grant from the Feds, but not the entire
amount, so we're not sure how much we'll be getting, if it's enough to
move forward with the Czar position, etc., but I just thought I'd let
you know it's something on our minds down here in the city of angels!
Kelly On Mar 25, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Jason Moore wrote:
Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an
arrangement with the city on abandoned bikes? We are working on
setting this up in Davis, but it would be nice to have a model to
follow, especially if the model fits into California law with
regards to what a city can do with abandoned property.Jason
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote: Something we're just coming around to when it comes to accepting
these donations is that we are doing the "donating" group a huge
favor by showing up and cleaning out their space of these unwanted
bikes. As we all know, schlepping and storing unused or broken bikes
gets old really quick. Keep this in mind when approaching the group
you'd like to donate the bikes. Use it as a selling point. "Got
bikes you need removed? We'll remove them for you!" sounds better to
a lot of larger organizations like schools or property management
companies than "If you have bikes you'd like to donate..."Remember, you're doing them a favor. It just so happens that the
"rubbish" you're removing is getting reused and benefited from.
Similar to the "1-800-GOT JUNK" place. They charge you to come out
and take your stuff. They don't just landfill everything they pick
up but it goes somewhere...On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Geoffrey B vous.je@gmail.com wrote: we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because
they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish
removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a
impoverished community.You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get
swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell
cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to
wirthy non-profits. What a shame.On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak
aliciadvorak@gmail.com wrote: At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe <wendy.monroe@usermail.com
wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in
community
organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for
the 'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old
bike ? That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something
good with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop,
'Fix your
bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a
German
anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know
the
Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up
donations from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of
volunteers and a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured
collection
program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for
example, have a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you
can fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks
for your
help!
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For what it's worth, the Fort Collins Bike Coop in Fort Collins, Colorado is handling the bike impound lot for the city of Fort Collins. They've got some interesting insight, as their journey to this point has been filled with challenges. I don't want to speak for them, but anyone considering going after city bikes on such a large, official scale--especially if you'll be collecting them--might be interested to speak with one of their volunteers or staff.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Kelly Martin kelly@bicyclekitchen.comwrote:
Well, 6 cycling groups (2 advocacy groups and 4 co-ops) just collaborated on a grant proposal to the LA County Department of Public Health as they sought funding from the CDC. Part of the proposal was to create a "Bike Acquisition Czar," a job for someone to collect bicycles from the Metro, LAPD and other sources and then redistribute them any of the 6 groups that would need them.
The LADPH just awarded their grant from the Feds, but not the entire amount, so we're not sure how much we'll be getting, if it's enough to move forward with the Czar position, etc., but I just thought I'd let you know it's something on our minds down here in the city of angels!
Kelly On Mar 25, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Jason Moore wrote:
Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an arrangement with the city on abandoned bikes? We are working on setting this up in Davis, but it would be nice to have a model to follow, especially if the model fits into California law with regards to what a city can do with abandoned property.
Jason
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
Something we're just coming around to when it comes to accepting these donations is that we are doing the "donating" group a huge favor by showing up and cleaning out their space of these unwanted bikes. As we all know, schlepping and storing unused or broken bikes gets old really quick. Keep this in mind when approaching the group you'd like to donate the bikes. Use it as a selling point. "Got bikes you need removed? We'll remove them for you!" sounds better to a lot of larger organizations like schools or property management companies than "If you have bikes you'd like to donate..."
Remember, you're doing them a favor. It just so happens that the "rubbish" you're removing is getting reused and benefited from. Similar to the "1-800-GOT JUNK" place. They charge you to come out and take your stuff. They don't just landfill everything they pick up but it goes somewhere...
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Geoffrey B vous.je@gmail.com wrote:
we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a impoverished community.
You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to wirthy non-profits. What a shame.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe < wendy.monroe@usermail.com> wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ?
That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something
good with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix
your
bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations
from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers
and a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured
collection
program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example,
have a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can
fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for
your
help!
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At the Bike Church in Santa Cruz we take bikes from both the city (thru the local police) and from the metro bus system. They "age" the bikes for the required 90 days (to allow for owners to reclaim them) and then turn them over to us.
The Metro's bikes come with no strings attached (other than we use them to further our mission as a nonprofit) and the city bikes fall under a free bikes to youth program where they are distributed to other nonprofits who can give them to youth in the City.
The City guidelines are cumbersome and require that bike be given "to youth living within the City limits" "in complete safe functioning order" "with helmets" and some other strict limitations. We leave many of these guidelines to be fulfilled by the groups that claim them as they are often too much work for us. In addition, a majority of the bikes are less than functional and a fair # of those not claimed by other organizations get scrapped for parts.
In conjunction with the city sponsored youth program, the Bike Church has a free bikes to youth policy ongoing, and kids can choose from our entire stock of bikes. We encourage kids to do work trade for bikes, but make them available for free as well.
I'm not familiar with any applicable state laws.
josh
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Jason Moore moorepants@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an arrangement with the city on abandoned bikes? We are working on setting this up in Davis, but it would be nice to have a model to follow, especially if the model fits into California law with regards to what a city can do with abandoned property.
Jason
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM, veganboyjosh@gmail.com wrote:
Something we're just coming around to when it comes to accepting these donations is that we are doing the "donating" group a huge favor by showing up and cleaning out their space of these unwanted bikes. As we all know, schlepping and storing unused or broken bikes gets old really quick. Keep this in mind when approaching the group you'd like to donate the bikes. Use it as a selling point. "Got bikes you need removed? We'll remove them for you!" sounds better to a lot of larger organizations like schools or property management companies than "If you have bikes you'd like to donate..."
Remember, you're doing them a favor. It just so happens that the "rubbish" you're removing is getting reused and benefited from. Similar to the "1-800-GOT JUNK" place. They charge you to come out and take your stuff. They don't just landfill everything they pick up but it goes somewhere...
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Geoffrey B vous.je@gmail.com wrote:
we ask apartment buildings, the super lets us at th ebikes because they are an inconvenience to them. We see donations as rubbish removal, and we bring the rubbish into rebellious cheapo bikes for a impoverished community.
You gotta turn over this rubbish with volunteer power or you get swamped. The city and university facilities in Toronto simply sell cathces of garbage bikes on creigslist instead of donating them to wirthy non-profits. What a shame.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Alicia Dvorak aliciadvorak@gmail.comwrote:
At sibley bike depot, we get a lot (currently almost too many!) of our bikes from st. paul neighborhood cleanups. the city has these cleanups where residents can bring all their unwanted crap and it gets recycled by various people/organizations (electronics, furniture, etc). we get the bikes. I don't know that a lot of cities do things like this, minneapolis, for example, doesn't b/c you can leave large items with your regular trash pickup. we've also started getting bikes from other cleanups from some of the suburbs.
alicia
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Wendy Monroe < wendy.monroe@usermail.com> wrote:
We have posted this flyer around on local bulletin boards in community organizations and grocery stores to collect donated bikes here for the
'Fix
your bike' project in Amsterdam ... it has worked pretty well.
Text reads, roughly translated: ' Do you have somewhere an old bike ?
That
you don't do anything with anymore? Would you like to do something
good with
it? Then it would be very nice of you to donate it to the workshop, 'Fix
your
bike' for youth, sponsored by ( local community development
organization..)
Hope this helps... I scanned the wonderful line drawing from a German anarchist bike repair book, 'Das Grosse Fahrradbuch.'
Wendy Monroe
On 01 Nov 2009, at 23:29, Erik Stockmeier wrote:
Are there any groups out there with strong partnerships with local municipalities or campuses to collect abandoned bicycles? I know the Recyclery (Chicago) and many other groups certainly pick up donations
from
police departments and the like, but we have a number of volunteers
and a
campus environmental group working on setting up a structured
collection
program and are looking for ways to proceed. Do you, for example,
have a
specific notice or flyer you attach to bikes? We are thinking of
something
that says "hello, this bike looks abandoned. if it is yours, you can
fix it
up at the recyclery. Otherwise it will be removed..."
Anyhow, just wondering if anyone has already done this. Thanks for
your
help!
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Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an arrangement with the city on abandoned bikes?
We (Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen) have an agreement with the City of Sacramento regarding abandoned bikes and other "evidence". They typically handle all of the details regarding what the law concerns. We just get a shipment of (usually non-working) bikes once a week. Most of them are in really rough shape. Because of the shortage of space we end of sending some of them to the metal recycler after stripping off what we can.
The one condition of this arrangement is that we give away a bike or two to a needy individual every once and a while. We usually don't give any bikes away but occasionally we make exceptions. We often make large donations to other non-profit organizations (homeless shelters, etc). We like to encourage folks to contribute *something* instead of just getting a bike for free. Our Earn-A-Bike program is still relatively immature but we typically give folks a bike after 5-10 hours of volunteer time. EAB participants can only earn one bike in a lifetime (we might change this to one a year).
BTW, Hi Jason! Scott
Thanks for the info, I am glad that some CA folks are working around some of the beaucracy to get these bikes to good homes.
Thanks for the tip on Fort Collins too, I've actually spoken with them at length on the subject already.
So this the California law pertaining to abandoned property: http://law.justia.com/california/codes/civ/2080-2080.10.html
Basically you have to hold the property for 90 days, announce it in newspaper, then sell it at public auction (unless its worth is under a certain value). Cities also have ordinances that I suppose could supercede these rules, but am not sure. The only clause in the code that seems like we could use to our advantage to get the bikes is:
If the local government purchasing
and stores agency or other similar agency determines that any such property transferred to it for sale is needed for a public use, such property may be retained by the agency and need not be sold.
My question is if the city can consider giving the property to us "a need for a public use"? Or do your cities make special ordinances that allow them to do something else with the property besides auction it? Or do they just give the bikes to you and hope nobody ever checks the law?
Jason
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Scott Beardsley scott@sacbikekitchen.orgwrote:
Does anyone know of a bike collective in California that has an
arrangement
with the city on abandoned bikes?
We (Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen) have an agreement with the City of Sacramento regarding abandoned bikes and other "evidence". They typically handle all of the details regarding what the law concerns. We just get a shipment of (usually non-working) bikes once a week. Most of them are in really rough shape. Because of the shortage of space we end of sending some of them to the metal recycler after stripping off what we can.
The one condition of this arrangement is that we give away a bike or two to a needy individual every once and a while. We usually don't give any bikes away but occasionally we make exceptions. We often make large donations to other non-profit organizations (homeless shelters, etc). We like to encourage folks to contribute *something* instead of just getting a bike for free. Our Earn-A-Bike program is still relatively immature but we typically give folks a bike after 5-10 hours of volunteer time. EAB participants can only earn one bike in a lifetime (we might change this to one a year).
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