Bicycle Registry
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
My suggestion is to utilize the police departments existing evidence database. Because if you require officers to check yet another database -- it won't happen.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison c: 801-688-0183
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm < cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
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BIKE SHEPHERD IS MAINTAINED BY GOOGLE AND HAS QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN WITH SMART PHONE.... http://www.bikeshepherd.org/ I give out the registration for free and the tags cost a small fee....
National Bike Registry is $10 for 10 years and is linked to police databases but may be siloed by bad data processing by police department...
I choose Bike Shepherd because the database is int he cloud and potential innocent buyers of stolen bikes can scan the sticker and see if the bike has been reported stolen.
http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/ Brian Drayton Executive Director SPOKES National , Richmond 322 Harbour Way #5 Richmond, Ca 94801 brian@richmondspokes.org Google voice (510) 545-2243 http://www.richmondspokes.org FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes?
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Morrison <
jonathan.morrison@gmail.com> wrote:
> My suggestion is to utilize the police departments existing evidence
> database. Because if you require officers to check yet another database --
> it won't happen.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Morrison
> c: 801-688-0183
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm <
> cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>> Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the
>> logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police
>> department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty
>> rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all
>> bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers
>> with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
>>
>> Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Cycle-Re-Cycle
>> Benton Harbor, MI
>>
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this is what comes up when you scan the qr code on a stolen bike http://www.bikeshepherd.org/?id=123456789
QR CODE: http://www.bikeshepherd.org/live_tag/100 http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/ Brian Drayton Executive Director SPOKES National , Richmond 322 Harbour Way #5 Richmond, Ca 94801 brian@richmondspokes.org Google voice (510) 545-2243 http://www.richmondspokes.org FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes?
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Brian Drayton <brian@richmondspokes.org>wrote:
> BIKE SHEPHERD IS MAINTAINED BY GOOGLE AND HAS QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN
> WITH SMART PHONE....
> http://www.bikeshepherd.org/
> I give out the registration for free and the tags cost a small fee....
>
> National Bike Registry is $10 for 10 years and is linked to police
> databases but may be siloed by bad data processing by police
> department...
>
> I choose Bike Shepherd because the database is int he cloud and
> potential innocent buyers of stolen bikes can scan the sticker and see if
> the bike has been reported stolen.
>
>
> <http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/>
> Brian Drayton
> Executive Director
> SPOKES National , Richmond
> 322 Harbour Way #5
> Richmond, Ca 94801
> brian@richmondspokes.org
> Google voice (510) 545-2243
> http://www.richmondspokes.org
> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes
> Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter
> (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
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> Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes?
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Morrison <
> jonathan.morrison@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My suggestion is to utilize the police departments existing evidence
>> database. Because if you require officers to check yet another database --
>> it won't happen.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jonathan Morrison
>> c: 801-688-0183
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm <
>> cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the
>>> logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police
>>> department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty
>>> rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all
>>> bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers
>>> with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Cycle-Re-Cycle
>>> Benton Harbor, MI
>>>
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Here is another similar program: http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/KryptoniteBikeRevolution.aspx
Again, if it isn't a part of an officer's daily tasks already -- it won't happen.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Morrison c: 801-688-0183
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Brian Drayton brian@richmondspokes.orgwrote:
BIKE SHEPHERD IS MAINTAINED BY GOOGLE AND HAS QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN WITH SMART PHONE.... http://www.bikeshepherd.org/ I give out the registration for free and the tags cost a small fee....
National Bike Registry is $10 for 10 years and is linked to police databases but may be siloed by bad data processing by police department...
I choose Bike Shepherd because the database is int he cloud and potential innocent buyers of stolen bikes can scan the sticker and see if the bike has been reported stolen.
http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/ Brian Drayton Executive Director SPOKES National , Richmond 322 Harbour Way #5 Richmond, Ca 94801 brian@richmondspokes.org Google voice (510) 545-2243 http://www.richmondspokes.org FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* * * * On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Morrison < jonathan.morrison@gmail.com> wrote: > My suggestion is to utilize the police departments existing evidence > database. Because if you require officers to check yet another database -- > it won't happen. > > Sincerely, > > Jonathan Morrison > c: 801-688-0183 > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm < > cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the >> logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police >> department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty >> rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all >> bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers >> with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop. >> >> Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips? >> >> Thanks >> Cycle-Re-Cycle >> Benton Harbor, MI >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >> TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org > > _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.org
Powered by Bike Shepherd and google.
http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/ Brian Drayton Executive Director SPOKES National , Richmond 322 Harbour Way #5 Richmond, Ca 94801 brian@richmondspokes.org Google voice (510) 545-2243 http://www.richmondspokes.org FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes?
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Jonathan Morrison <
jonathan.morrison@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is another similar program:
> http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/KryptoniteBikeRevolution.aspx
>
> Again, if it isn't a part of an officer's daily tasks already -- it won't
> happen.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Morrison
> c: 801-688-0183
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Brian Drayton <brian@richmondspokes.org>wrote:
>
>> BIKE SHEPHERD IS MAINTAINED BY GOOGLE AND HAS QR CODE THAT YOU CAN
>> SCAN WITH SMART PHONE....
>> http://www.bikeshepherd.org/
>> I give out the registration for free and the tags cost a small fee....
>>
>> National Bike Registry is $10 for 10 years and is linked to police
>> databases but may be siloed by bad data processing by police
>> department...
>>
>> I choose Bike Shepherd because the database is int he cloud and
>> potential innocent buyers of stolen bikes can scan the sticker and see if
>> the bike has been reported stolen.
>>
>>
>> <http://spokeshopanniversary-eorg.eventbrite.com/>
>> Brian Drayton
>> Executive Director
>> SPOKES National , Richmond
>> 322 Harbour Way #5
>> Richmond, Ca 94801
>> brian@richmondspokes.org
>> Google voice (510) 545-2243
>> http://www.richmondspokes.org
>> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/richmond.spokes
>> Join our mailing list and get a subscription to our monthly news letter
>> (SPOKE ~N~WORD ) *http://tinyurl.com/sp0ke-n-w0rd*
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Why re-invent the wheel ...when you can tighten the spokes?
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>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Morrison <
>> jonathan.morrison@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My suggestion is to utilize the police departments existing evidence
>>> database. Because if you require officers to check yet another database --
>>> it won't happen.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Jonathan Morrison
>>> c: 801-688-0183
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm <
>>> cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into
>>>> the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police
>>>> department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty
>>>> rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all
>>>> bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers
>>>> with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Cycle-Re-Cycle
>>>> Benton Harbor, MI
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Thethinktank mailing list
>>>> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org
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>>>> TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Reporting serial numbers to the police is the only way the police can return stolen bikes, and it's also the only thing the (good) pawn shops will check & report to police.
Our approach was to set up an online registry so people can keep track of their own serial numbers so that they have something to report when they go to the police, and therefore some fractional chance of recovering their bike.
Most people don't use it.
Because the kind of people that are organized enough to register and record with an online registry service are the kind of people who are organized enough to record their serial number in the first place.
And hopefully the kind of people that are willing to invest in a good lock and learning how to use it. Stickers, after all, don't stop bike theft, even if you pay for the stickers and they're hard to remove.
I'm pretty cynical about bike registries as anything more than comfort for the already-neurotic.
Christopher Chan *Executive Director* Edmonton Bicycle Commuters' Society 10047 80 Ave (entrance in rear lane) Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T6E 1T4 edmontonbikes.ca *w:* (780) 433-2453 || *c:* (780) 700-5564
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm < cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
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It seems to me that something is better than nothing. However, you are sticking your thumb in the dike. It isn't global enough. I believe that all bicycles, by law, should be registered at point of sale. The process would be much like automobile registration. I am sure that many readers would howl at the moon over this notion, but I can't think of any more positive way to connect a cycle to its owner.
From: Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com To: thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: [TheThinkTank] Bicycle Registry
Hello All,
Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop. Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI _______________________________________________ Thethinktank mailing list Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org To unsubscribe, send a blank email to TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org To manage your subscription, plase visit: http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o...
We just opened in August and haven't yet been through a busy spring season, but we have a database with our bikes and serial numbers, and have also tried to track customer info. Seems to me that putting it all in one place would help at least at the neighborhood/city level. We flirted with the idea of buying used bikes and quickly realized the legal and ethical pitfalls, not to mention the economic ones!
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Angelo Coletta < summitcyclingcenter@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems to me that something is better than nothing. However, you are sticking your thumb in the dike. It isn't global enough. I believe that all bicycles, by law, should be registered at point of sale. The process would be much like automobile registration. I am sure that many readers would howl at the moon over this notion, but I can't think of any more positive way to connect a cycle to its owner.
*From:* Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com *To:* thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Bicycle Registry
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
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Give me a call ...you can do bike consignment. It can help with legitimizing bikes and keeping bikes circulating. Good to have database... We have recovered many stolen bikes because we document outer clients and serial numbers. On Jan 25, 2013 8:29 AM, "Nozomi Ikuta" nozomi@affordablebikesrecyclery.com wrote:
We just opened in August and haven't yet been through a busy spring season, but we have a database with our bikes and serial numbers, and have also tried to track customer info. Seems to me that putting it all in one place would help at least at the neighborhood/city level. We flirted with the idea of buying used bikes and quickly realized the legal and ethical pitfalls, not to mention the economic ones!
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Angelo Coletta < summitcyclingcenter@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems to me that something is better than nothing. However, you are sticking your thumb in the dike. It isn't global enough. I believe that all bicycles, by law, should be registered at point of sale. The process would be much like automobile registration. I am sure that many readers would howl at the moon over this notion, but I can't think of any more positive way to connect a cycle to its owner.
*From:* Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm <cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com
*To:* thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Bicycle Registry
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
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Hello, My name is Julien, spokesman of L'Heureux Cyclage, the french network of community bike shops.
Just to let you know that community based system implemented in France by the national cycling federation: http://www.bicycode.org/ (for those who speakes french).
Bye,
Julien
Give me a call ...you can do bike consignment. It can help with legitimizing bikes and keeping bikes circulating. Good to have database... We have recovered many stolen bikes because we document outer clients and serial numbers. On Jan 25, 2013 8:29 AM, "Nozomi Ikuta" nozomi@affordablebikesrecyclery.com wrote:
We just opened in August and haven't yet been through a busy spring season, but we have a database with our bikes and serial numbers, and have also tried to track customer info. Seems to me that putting it all in one place would help at least at the neighborhood/city level. We flirted with the idea of buying used bikes and quickly realized the legal and ethical pitfalls, not to mention the economic ones!
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Angelo Coletta < summitcyclingcenter@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems to me that something is better than nothing. However, you are sticking your thumb in the dike. It isn't global enough. I believe that all bicycles, by law, should be registered at point of sale. The process would be much like automobile registration. I am sure that many readers would howl at the moon over this notion, but I can't think of any more positive way to connect a cycle to its owner.
*From:* Cycle Re Cycle Cycle-Re-Cycle swm <cycle.re.cycle.swm@gmail.com
*To:* thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:03 PM *Subject:* [TheThinkTank] Bicycle Registry
Hello All, Our community, non-profit bike shop, Cycle-Re-Cycle, is looking into the logistics of starting a community bicycle registry. The local police department doesn't have anything like it and bicycle theft is pretty rampant in our community. We keep serial numbers and descriptions on all bikes we sell, so it seems that the next step is just to print stickers with a sequential number on it to adhere to all the bikes leaving the shop.
Has anyone ever started a bicycle registry like this? Thoughts or tips?
Thanks Cycle-Re-Cycle Benton Harbor, MI
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Since the Kryptonite / Bike shepherd system is free to register (with fee for sticker) it is a win /win situation to have a universal database accessible online and the extra (psychological) repository for bicycle serial numbers that can be accessed by law enforcement, owners of the bikes and potential buyers.
I find it different than the old school register with the police and fire department because now that our law and public protector institutions treat us like barcodes, we don’t get personal service.
I’ve unfortunately had three bikes stolen in the last 6 months and have 2-5 bikes reported stolen to my shop each week in the East San Francisco Bay Area. Another one swiped in Sacramento while at a convention locked with a kryptonite.
The only real solution to bike theft is bike facilities that reduce the time and access that thieves have to get to your bike. Police treat bike theft like a misdemeanor, and send you to an online form ... Even if you know your beat cop, they are told to de prioritize going after bike and car thieves.
Two years ago m partner was assaulted in our house during a robbery where a hand build Merx was stolen. Not only did they not care or investigate, when I located the bike via tips from bike shop owners and Craig’s list. The retrieved the bike from the offender without asking questions to placate me forgetting it was a felony robbery and assault case.
They hear bike and think it's child’s play...
I can say you get nothing from them without the serial # in hand or in a registry to prove you bought the bike or possessed it at some point.
Any tool to get your customers to document the serial number will help the customer eventually wither or not kryptonite and the police give a damn about bikes as a primary source of mobility.
Use the database because it works... I can’t access the police database from my shop but bike shepherd allows me to scan the bike and track it. If I say to people I wont buy a bike unless it is registered maybe we can inspire a trend to really make it work.
Craig’s list should have a bike serial number registry for anyone selling bikes or parts. On line EBay as well ...for the buyer and the seller’s protection .
Copy down your Serial number:
On every recipt from the Spokeshop the header says
“COPY DOWN UR BIKE SERIAL # IN CASE IT GETS STOLEN”
I say register your bike and put in a lojack gps system .
GPS TRACKER But what do you do when you locate your bike... You show your registry to the police. and hopefully your bike is worth more than 1k so you can press felony charges.
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http://www.gizmag.com/spybike-gps-tracker/22999/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dEeQCe2F_1I
Ah!
For those in Canada, you *can* search the national police database: just use the "Search CPIC" form in the right-column of our page: http://edmontonbikes.ca/stolenbikes/
Caveat: serial numbers are purged after 3 months in the database. So you have to search in the sweet spot of between when the police recover your bike and enter your bike's serial number into the database (assuming they do, and assuming they pick the correct number to record, and assuming they copy it down correctly) and up to 3 months following that.
Mostly, we have the same problem you do Brian, of police just not caring. Whether it's your $40 beater or a $10,000 carbon fibre Lance Armstrong-autographed machine [are those still worth anything?], you'd probably get more attention if you reported someone stole ice cream from your 5-year old kid. Good PR to catch that kind of scumbag. (Unless it was another kid. Which it probably was...)
I think I'll replace our bike registry service with the Kryptonite one. Less work for us.
Christopher Chan *Executive Director* Edmonton Bicycle Commuters' Society 10047 80 Ave (entrance in rear lane) Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, T6E 1T4 edmontonbikes.ca *w:* (780) 433-2453 || *c:* (780) 700-5564
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Brian Drayton brian@richmondspokes.orgwrote:
Since the Kryptonite / Bike shepherd system is free to register (with fee for sticker) it is a win /win situation to have a universal database accessible online and the extra (psychological) repository for bicycle serial numbers that can be accessed by law enforcement, owners of the bikes and potential buyers.
I find it different than the old school register with the police and fire department because now that our law and public protector institutions treat us like barcodes, we don’t get personal service.
I’ve unfortunately had three bikes stolen in the last 6 months and have 2-5 bikes reported stolen to my shop each week in the East San Francisco Bay Area. Another one swiped in Sacramento while at a convention locked with a kryptonite.
The only real solution to bike theft is bike facilities that reduce the time and access that thieves have to get to your bike. Police treat bike theft like a misdemeanor, and send you to an online form ... Even if you know your beat cop, they are told to de prioritize going after bike and car thieves.
Two years ago m partner was assaulted in our house during a robbery where a hand build Merx was stolen. Not only did they not care or investigate, when I located the bike via tips from bike shop owners and Craig’s list. The retrieved the bike from the offender without asking questions to placate me forgetting it was a felony robbery and assault case.
They hear bike and think it's child’s play...
I can say you get nothing from them without the serial # in hand or in a registry to prove you bought the bike or possessed it at some point.
Any tool to get your customers to document the serial number will help the customer eventually wither or not kryptonite and the police give a damn about bikes as a primary source of mobility.
Use the database because it works... I can’t access the police database from my shop but bike shepherd allows me to scan the bike and track it. If I say to people I wont buy a bike unless it is registered maybe we can inspire a trend to really make it work.
Craig’s list should have a bike serial number registry for anyone selling bikes or parts. On line EBay as well ...for the buyer and the seller’s protection .
Copy down your Serial number:
On every recipt from the Spokeshop the header says
“COPY DOWN UR BIKE SERIAL # IN CASE IT GETS STOLEN”
I say register your bike and put in a lojack gps system .
GPS TRACKER But what do you do when you locate your bike... You show your registry to the police. and hopefully your bike is worth more than 1k so you can press felony charges.
IMAGE: http://lh3.ggpht.com/-rvstUk6RG9w/T9Emy3RmX9I/AAAAAAAAHRw/C0wie6Q4zXk/image_...
http://www.gizmag.com/spybike-gps-tracker/22999/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dEeQCe2F_1I
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