Re: [TheThinkTank] 'The bike has been infected forever'… with the electrification virus ( ? ! )

-- *Matt VanSlyke* *Development Director New York Bicycling Coalition www.nybc.net 315-525-9554* On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Sue Prant sue@communitycycles.org wrote: > Kevin has it right!!! > > Sent from my phone. > On Jan 4, 2013 9:07 AM, "Kevin Dwyer" kevidwyer@gmail.com wrote: > >> This is absolutely ridiculous. There are plenty of people who would like >> an alternative to a car but for whom their 150 watts of power won't >> suffice. These people have cargo bikes (sometimes with kids), live where >> there are steep hills, have long commutes etc., etc. etc. Should we >> discourage bus transit for those who need it simply because the cleanest >> technology has not been adopted. What about those folks for whom the >> electric bike is one of their quiver? What about people who don't have 150 >> watts? >> >> They have pedals, right. Those people are members of your community, >> right. They'd like to support your shop, right? And you're saying that >> because its not the purest/best technology, they should piss off? >> >> How much more respect would all cyclists get if 5% of car drivers were >> suddenly e-bikers? How much more funding would bicycle safety, bicycle >> pathways and bicycle storage receive? These are our allies. Ever heard that >> old axiom about "cutting off your nose"? How about wheelchairs, handcycles, >> push scooters, skateboarders? >> >> Strive to be inclusive. With some caveats to safety and capacity, we're >> in the mobility business; anyone trying to ride more softly on the earth is >> welcome. >> >> Kevin >> The Bicycle Collective >> Salt Lake City >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Geoffrey Bercarich < >> geoff.bercarich@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My community bike space does not allow the fixing or repairing of >>> electric assist vehicles. >>> >>> Make signage. >>> On Jan 4, 2013 2:36 AM, "Wendy Monroe" wendy.monroe@usermail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello think tankers, >>>> >>>> I'm seeing a lot of this sort of talk in the Netherlands… >>>> Is there a broad trend in the States moving this direction, as well? >>>> >>>> This Extra Energy organization is not thinking in terms of Cheap >>>> chinese made imports but rather of very pricey ( typically ) German >>>> products. >>>> Or perhaps German *branded* products, manufactured in China…. >>>> >>>> But I see e-bikes in general as somewhat of a threat to those of us who >>>> love non electrified bicycles. >>>> >>>> Any thoughts on this, fellow Americans? >>>> >>>> * >>>> http://extraenergy.org/main.php?language=en&category=information&sub... >>>> * >>>> >>>> Wendy >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Thethinktank mailing list >>>> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org >>>> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >>>> TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org >>>> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >>>> >>>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thethinktank mailing list >>> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org >>> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >>> TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org >>> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >>> >>> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Kevin Dwyer >> ThinkLaw >> Utah State Bar #11235 >> Washington State Bar #37740 >> >> >> IMPORTANT: This communication is intended solely for the use of the >> individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information >> that is confidential and/or protected by the attorney-client or other >> applicable privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you are >> not responsible for delivering this communication to the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that the disclosure of this >> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >> communication in error, please notify me immediately by telephone at (801) >> 647-0797, and return the original message to me at the above address via >> email. Thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Thethinktank mailing list >> Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org >> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to >> TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org >> To manage your subscription, plase visit: >> >> http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Thethinktank mailing list > Thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to > TheThinkTank-leave@bikecollectives.org > To manage your subscription, plase visit: > > http://lists.bikecollectives.org/listinfo.cgi/thethinktank-bikecollectives.o... > > -- *Matt VanSlyke* *Development Director New York Bicycling Coalition www.nybc.net 315-525-9554*