And let's not forget that most dept. store bike assembly people are
paid per bike. I've heard some fun stories of bikes with cranks out
of alignment with each other, forks in backward, and terrible cable
routing (so bad the bike cannot shift or brake properly) but hey, the
bike got "assembled" and so that person got paid and the sales staff
can deal with the resulting issues...
Mark
On 30-May-08, at 4:18 PM, Sherief wrote:
This sounds alright. However saying wal-mart bikes are fine if
properly dis-and-reassembled effectively doesn't count. Nobody
besides bike mechanics/enthusiasts/whatever knows that, so until
that information is readily accessible and the means to do so are
accessable to those would be riders, the point is unfortunately
moot and that person is riding a bike that is destroying itself.
This is I think the biggest issue, beyond the wild-eyed dream of
doing a competing commuter bike to the department store bike. I
respect the labor of Chinese laborers to be sure, but that doesn't
mean that that 'honest' labor is similarly exploited by those
department stores just as they're effectively exploiting those
people who can't afford more on a new bike. We coops/collectives
whatnot do recycling older bicycles best, and there's no doubt that
this is one of the silver bullets that can be shot out against
department store bikes. But is there not more? I'm not trying to
evangelize, I'm not trying to get people on bicycles per se, but
there are a lot of people out there who ride bikes but don't know
what they're riding and shouldn't be forced by what they don't know
to be riding a P.O.S.I think that there's a fair distinction, though one that's often
blurred, between a criticism of the bikes and those who ride them.
The snobby, gear-head that dwells in the black part of all our
hearts might be doing the latter, but we need to find the former
aspect and find ways to discourage and do away with those awful
bikes so that the people who most need bikes, whether students,
invisible riders, or people who just can't afford gas anymore, can
ride without worry and not have to buy the obsolescence of their
bicycle as a hidden cost over the $150/200. Until we hit that
magic solution, we should keep recycling, keep reaching out to the
communities we're in and involved with, and keep doing repairs on
whatever comes into the shop.-sherief
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:52 PM, james thompson
jtexconsult@gmail.com wrote: Low-End Bike Soap Box: A Mechanic's PerspectiveSome credentials: I trained as an apprentice mechanic under the one (good) eye of a master craftsman named Peter Kerezman in Kingsville, TX from 1983-89. I have managed two repair-oriented neighborhood stores for a total of about three years, and worked in several others. My favorite bike shop tool is the electric grinder, second favorite, a head-tube "finisher" which makes pressed cups right and headsets last. Third favorite, the old blue Wheelsmith repair manual, with 2- and 3-speed hub breakdowns and lucid wheel-building instructions and theory.
Yes, I own a two-thousand dollar road bike (with twelve-year-old Dura-Ace/Ultegra), and I'm biased towards repair stands vs. home repair when available.
My opinion: Wal-mart bikes are just fine if they are properly dis- and re-assembled. And I respect the Chinese sweat that went into them just like I do the well-paid welding or carbon-fiber work of an American craftsperson. I respect even more the people who pedal them around town, and I always defer to their grace while spinning effortlessly up a hill on my sub-20 pounder.
Shamefully, Wal-mart bikes are, or are strongly perceived to be, THE most affordable ready-to-ride geared bikes for the working poor, bar none. What they need is our help selecting them and putting them together if they insist on buying one.
Recommendation Uno: no suspension, especially soft-tails. It's heavy and it's cheap and it breaks. People think it looks cool, convince them otherwise. If you can't argue for the elegance and weight-savings of a full-hard, just ask someone the dessert island question: would you rather be stuck with a cane pole or the latest tackle gadgetry?
Numero Dos: Explain to folk that they should buy it in the box and take it to you and help put it together with love. Wal-mart/Etc. don't pay their employees enough to grease your cables and all the metal-to-metal contacts, to properly torque the crankarm bolts, to tweak and (typically as needed) tighten the spokes and true the wheels, to remove the wheels and adjust the cones, or even to properly center the stem and inflate the tires. We need some non-commercial version of the Pete Kerezman special (ca. 1985): bring us the box and we'll build it right for cheap.
Some other things you can do if you are more ambitious: unpack and regrease the bottom bracket. The quality of grease is typically low from the factory. I only recommend this for high-precipitation environments. Also, you can usually trim the cable housing to a more reasonable length for better braking and derailleur performance.
I think the bias here is largely from (ahem . . . commercial mechanic's soapbox) those who have assembled very few boxed bikes, or from those commercial mechanics who aspire to work in the rare PRO shop. It is ironic that most older pro mechanics I know will cuss and steam, but then confess that low-end is fine if assemble d properly and suspension avoided.
The point is don't be a Surly-Campy-Orbea gear-head, dance with the folk, and think of the worst bikes as One Less Car.
Solidarity,
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