Volunteers expecting quid pro quo or expecting or taking tips (and not dropping them into the donations) makes me feel ill.
But I have had a long time volunteer who has spent time all along the income scale, including at the very bottom, say, essentially, "You have all these high-falutin values because you can afford to. When you're broke and looking at hunger or nowhere to sleep, your viewpoint changes really fast."
I still don't agree that people should take, or Goddess forbid, ask for, any money for labor at the Bike Project. I won't stand for a formal policy that allows or encourages such things. But I have to accept that I can't control exactly how everyone does things at the Bike Project.
On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Beth Barnes <islow4bikes@gmail.commailto:islow4bikes@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the idea of a donation jar, suggesting it is bring funneled back into the cause. A top jar would turn me off. Thanks for asking
On Apr 23, 2015, at 3:23 PM, momoko saunders <analyst@bikefarm.orgmailto:analyst@bikefarm.org> wrote:
Yeah, I agree with everything you all are saying. I felt really put off when I saw it. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't reacting too strongly.
I like how you point out that it suggests that the volunteer does not understand the collective process, or what the role of volunteering is.
Thank you for your thoughts! -momoko
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM, <samuelchristianjensen@gmail.commailto:samuelchristianjensen@gmail.com> wrote:
Without knowing your specific situation, I think it's also problematic for two non-tax/appearances reasons:
Volunteers should be there to support the project, etc, not for personal profit. While there usually are benefits to the volunteer like learning new skills, if they're there for the money they're not really a volunteer. Setting out a tip jar sends the signal that the volunteer doesn't really understand their role there.
Policy changes at a co-op/collective should be a group decision imo. It's not much of a collective if everybody sets their own rules for the space. Maybe I misunderstood something but taking tips without clearing it with the rest of the collective kinda implies that the volunteer doesn't take the group process seriously.
Den 23/04/2015 13.39 skrev "momoko saunders" <analyst@bikefarm.orgmailto:analyst@bikefarm.org>: Hey all,
How do you guys feel about tip jars? A volunteer at bike farm recently put one out during a shift.
I think it's something we as a collective should vote on. Is this a common practice? Have people had conversations about this before?
please note this is different than a donation jar which goes to the collective, this is tips for the volunteers.
Thanks for your thoughts, -momoko
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