Re: [TheThinkTank] Mechanic training curriculum

7 Dec 2013

      Oh. And I am dubious of approaches to our work that see providing free
services to non-native English speakers to be empathetic.  I don't mean to
imply that there was any ill intention in that statement.  I can relate to
the experience of being unable to communicate with or explain our work with
non-native English speakers, but I think one really exciting opportunity
for providing relevant and appropriate programming is outreach to non -
dominant communities.  And often these communities are the folks who would
benefit most from our services. How many shops actively provide
multilingual programming?  ..I feel a new thread coming on.
On 2013-12-07 8:42 PM, "Lauren Warbeck" lauren.warbeck@gmail.com wrote:
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I think that the specificity of the term coop is really important.  At a
time when social and sharing economies are enjoying a powerful and totally
rad resurgence its meaningful to link cooperatives to their true roots,
especially here in Canada where coop history is so relevant to working
class and immigrant communities.  Only a coop is called a coop. And a coop
can be a place but is also more conceptually about how a place is
organized. That being said I've never associated the term "shop" with
consumerism or conventional commerce in terms of bike shops, but rather
thought of it as a place where the wirk of coops and enps and nps operate -
"workshop,"a place where folks go to make cool shit and fix things.
On 2013-12-05 2:24 PM, "sheldon mains" sheldon@spokesconnect.org wrote:
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I agree--there are a variety of words to explain what we do.  However, I
just wanted to help people avoid a legal problem one of our local community
whole food stores got into. They had to change their name to Cooop until
they got the offical OK to be a Coop.
..............
Sheldon Mains
SPOKES Bike Walk Connect
www.SpokesConnect.org
www.fb.com/SpokesConnect
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Ron Kellis ron.kellis@velocitycoop.orgwrote:
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And there is always the dilemma of legal terms vs. colloquialisms. IMHO
there is a time and place for both. As someone who once struggled to learn
a second language, the legal difference would have been lost on me in
Japanese and I probably wouldn't have cared.
Many times I have tried in simple English to explain "We are not a
regular bike shop." to a non-native English speaker who needed to get a
bike fixed so they could get back and forth to work. A couple of times I've
just gone ahead and done the work for them, labor "gratis". Probably
opening myself up for a lawsuit, but such is the cost of a little bit of
empathy.
Just my %.02
Ron
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:20 AM, sheldon mains <
sheldon@spokesconnect.org> wrote:
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Cooperative: Here in Minnesota (and in a lot of upper midwest states
and I think a number of western states) Cooperative has a very specific
legal term.  It is something that is owned cooperatively by consumers,
workers or producers.  You can not be called a coop unless you met the
legal definition and requirements (which I don't know and are very
detailed).  We have a lot of consumer grocery cooperatives in the Twin
Cities--specializing in "whole foods." Most of rural MN and parts of the
suburbs are served by consumer owned electric utility cooperatives.
 Producer cooperatives seem to have become very large; Land-0-Lakes is one.
 In California I believe Sunkist is another.
Worker owned cooperatives are less common.  Two in my neighborhood are
a cafe and one of the best retail bike shops in the Twin Cities-- The Hub
Bicycle Cooperative.
To answer a question that may come up. A coop is NOT the same as a
nonprofit.  They are totally different animals.
..............
Sheldon Mains
 SPOKES Bike Walk Connect
www.SpokesConnect.org
www.fb.com/SpokesConnect
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Jerry danceswithcars@gmail.com wrote:
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Do you call a coop a shop?
Implies sales instead of recycled and commerce instead of community,
imo
Fwiw: wasn't there but program lit should have that unless done uncon
/ crunchy granola whiteboard style 8:/
Haven't a clue what this gadget thought I typed, so TIA for
understanding anyways...
On Dec 3, 2013, at 17:03, wormsign@gmail.com wrote:
It was the coop in Ventura, CA
Enzo Loconte
Board Secretary
Bikerowave
On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:28 PM, David Eyer Davis <
davey@bicyclecollective.org> wrote:
Hi Justin, all,
we weren't the shop in question, but at Salt Lake Bike Collective we
teach a weekly mechanics class based out of the chapters of the park tool
book, published here:
http://www.bicyclecollective.org/en/programs/classes/368-2013-park-tool-scho...
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Justin Pogge <oldfieldcycles@gmail.com
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wrote:
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At bike bike this year there was a great workshop on doing a mechanic
training course. I cannot remember the shop that did the workshop but they
offered up their curriculum to anyone who wanted it. They took everyone's
email but the documents never got emailed out. Anyone have them? Out
remember who did the workshop?

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