Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote:
Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici <bici.uanl@gmail.com mailto:bici.uanl@gmail.com> wrote: Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" eric@bikeerie.org Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren't made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn't understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let's cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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City of Albany NY has the Deros at libraries. Program is called Capital Roots - Creating Healthy Schools and Communities. Was great when I was up there for the Climate March. Did some much needed tweaking! I believe they're pretty successful there. I'm working on getting one in my midtown NYC hood. Been a bit of an uphill battle but I'm hoping to make it happen. They have them on a couple of Citibike stations here in NYC and I believe one up at park in the Bronx too.
On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:49 PM, christopher@holisticcycles.com wrote:
I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" eric@bikeerie.org Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote: Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E -------- Original message --------From: christopher@holisticcycles.com Date: 1/10/19 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Think Tank Bike Collectives email list thethinktank@bikecollectives.org Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" eric@bikeerie.org Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" thethinktank@bikecollectives.org
Hi, With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well. The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution. A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved. Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists. One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat. Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first. Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote:
Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice? We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft) We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station? Abrazos R.
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I used to live in the Albany area. Interesting that they've put these stations in. Would love to hear about some practical experience with them.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
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-------- Original message -------- From: christopher@holisticcycles.com Date: 1/10/19 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Think Tank Bike Collectives email list < thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations
I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" eric@bikeerie.org Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" < thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote:
Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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The city put one up outside our coop, I understand we didn't get any input into the purchase. As others mentioned, first the chuck broke. And then after that was replaced, the pump internal valve failed.
We couldn't get any information on the manufacturer so durning open hours ee put out a hand pump. I managed to get the pump apart, but health issues have prevented me from fixing it. The security fasteners seem to be proprietary as I couldn't find a tool anywhere and had to use a chisle and vice grips. So be sure to get good literature and I'd contact the manufacturer if there are security fasteners so be sure you know what's needed for repairs.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 12:59 PM Stephen Andruski <swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I used to live in the Albany area. Interesting that they've put these stations in. Would love to hear about some practical experience with them.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 11:54 AM 3rdwardbikes <3rdwardbikes@gmail.com wrote:
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-------- Original message -------- From: christopher@holisticcycles.com Date: 1/10/19 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: Think Tank Bike Collectives email list < thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations
I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" eric@bikeerie.org Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" < thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski swandruski@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici bici.uanl@gmail.com wrote:
Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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Ron,
That security fastener is a tough one! It’s essentially a 5 sided Allen with a tapered side. I was able to remove it with careful use of Channellocks. When the rack was delivered there should have been a tool provided with it. The company that manufactures those bolts requires you to buy a large lot of the bolts in order to get a tool.
Eric
On Jan 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Ron Kellis ron.kellis@velocitycoop.org wrote:
The city put one up outside our coop, I understand we didn't get any input into the purchase. As others mentioned, first the chuck broke. And then after that was replaced, the pump internal valve failed.
We couldn't get any information on the manufacturer so durning open hours ee put out a hand pump. I managed to get the pump apart, but health issues have prevented me from fixing it. The security fasteners seem to be proprietary as I couldn't find a tool anywhere and had to use a chisle and vice grips. So be sure to get good literature and I'd contact the manufacturer if there are security fasteners so be sure you know what's needed for repairs.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 12:59 PM Stephen Andruski <swandruski@gmail.com mailto:swandruski@gmail.com wrote: I used to live in the Albany area. Interesting that they've put these stations in. Would love to hear about some practical experience with them.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 11:54 AM 3rdwardbikes <3rdwardbikes@gmail.com mailto:3rdwardbikes@gmail.com wrote:
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-------- Original message -------- From: christopher@holisticcycles.com mailto:christopher@holisticcycles.com Date: 1/10/19 6:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: The Think Tank <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org mailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: Think Tank Bike Collectives email list <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org mailto:thethinktank@bikecollectives.org> Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations
I have ordered two sided filler heads from Topeak, and replaced all the heads in my town at the bike stations. The nice thing is topeak has replacement parts available , every few months I check on and replace simple head parts
--------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Public repair stations From: "Eric Brozell" <eric@bikeerie.org mailto:eric@bikeerie.org> Date: 1/9/19 11:17 am To: "The Think Tank" <thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org mailto:thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> Cc: "Think Tank Bike Collectives email list" <thethinktank@bikecollectives.org mailto:thethinktank@bikecollectives.org>
Hi,
With suggestions from Bike Erie, our county bought 4 Dero units a number of years ago. They were placed at public libraries and one was installed at Presque Isle State Park. All of the stands and tools held up very well.
The tire pumps back then were not very good. To begin with, the pumps were of the variety that most of you have in your shops (indoors). The weather was not kind to them and they just weren’t made to be out in the weather. The other issue was the fill valve. It was the type of valve that has a single hole and a lever that accepts both types of tire valves. Most users didn’t understand how the valve worked and would wind up breaking them in the process. Several solutions were attempted with out a good solution.
A few years ago, both bike repair stand companies (Bike Fixation and Dero) designed and manufactured a heavy duty stainless steel version that should be a better choice. Last time I talked to them they were working on a solution for the fill valves. I believe both companies have multiple options for tire inflation. Our community is buying a few this spring so let’s cross our fingers to hope they will be improved.
Eric Brozell Bike Erie BOD Pedal Mettle volunteer
On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Stephen Andruski <swandruski@gmail.com mailto:swandruski@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing people's perspectives on this too. There was someone interested in getting the City of Rockville, MD to put up some of these, but the idea didn't gain a lot of traction. Perhaps I'm being a bit cynical about this, but the first thing I thought of was that the person most likely to need something like this (i.e., the person who doesn't carry a spare tube, patch kit, tire levers, pump and a multi tool) is also the person least likely to know how to use the tools on the stand. The utility of these public repair stands presupposes that the knowledge of how to use them exists.
One idea that I've seen that makes some sense to me is having a stand like that outside your community bike shop for people who need a quick adjustment when the shop is very busy, even if its just a place to hang their bike while fixing a flat.
Again, someone please provide some actual experience with these in a broader setting. They certainly fit with the educational mission most of our groups have, but it seems to me that the knowledge has to exist first.
Steve Andruski The Rockville Bike Hub
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:06 PM Tigre Bici <bici.uanl@gmail.com mailto:bici.uanl@gmail.com> wrote: Hello! This email is to ask if any of your shops/collectives/cities have public repair stations and if so, what have been the experiences with them (good usages/theft/general opinions). Has anybody made their own repair station? advice?
We have and extra tool kit that nobody is using so we are thinking on making one station and putting it outside the shop for general usage. We are a bit concerned about theft since the area gets really dark and lonely at night with some theft to houses and cars; so we are thinking on something that its fixated to the floor but tools are just available during daytime (to prevent theft)
We found some info online on measures (attached), what do you think of this type of station?
Abrazos R.
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