The Axiom Annihilateair looks extremely sturdy.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Ryan Sharpe sharpe@sacbikekitchen.orgwrote:

The Sacramento Bicycle Kitchen mostly uses Park and Pedro's pumps, but I'm personally dumbfounded how you get yours to last "more than a year" -- we're lucky if even the staff-only pumps last more than a month, not to mention the general-use floor pumps...

--Ryan

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Andy Greif cbcofme@gwi.net wrote:

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Hi Folks,****

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Over the year we have tried many different floor pumps with the pump heads not lasting more than a year. *What brand and model floor pump has been the most reliable for you?* We prefer floor pumps with the gauge close to the floor since the gauges don’t bust when the pump falls over. We are okay with either smart head pumps or dual headed (Presta/Schrader) on opposite ends of the heads.****

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Andy****

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Dave, are all the parts replaceable? On Sep 17, 2013 2:24 PM, "dave baker" bikebaker@yahoo.com wrote:

we have has the best luck with the high end SKS floor pump. the weight of it is a good indication of longevity. -dave baker the bike works silver city, nm

On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Andy Greif" cbcofme@gwi.net wrote:

Hi Folks,****

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Over the year we have tried many different floor pumps with the pump heads not lasting more than a year. *What brand and model floor pump has been the most reliable for you?* We prefer floor pumps with the gauge close to the floor since the gauges don’t bust when the pump falls over. We are okay with either smart head pumps or dual headed (Presta/Schrader) on opposite ends of the heads.****

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Thanks,****

Andy****

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*Andy Greif, Executive Director*

Mailing: P.O. Box 783, Biddeford, ME 04005****

Shop: 284 Hill Street, Biddeford ****

Shop Phone: 207-282-9700 Cell Phone: 207-229-8199****

Website: www.communitybike.net****

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Hi Dave,

Thanks!

I spent the summer of 1977 in Silver City taking a geology mapping field course.

Take care,

Andy

From: thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org [mailto:thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] On Behalf Of dave baker Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:25 PM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Floor Pump Recommendation

we have has the best luck with the high end SKS floor pump. the weight of it is a good indication of longevity.

-dave baker

the bike works

silver city, nm

On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Andy Greif" cbcofme@gwi.net wrote:

Hi Folks,

Over the year we have tried many different floor pumps with the pump heads not lasting more than a year. What brand and model floor pump has been the most reliable for you? We prefer floor pumps with the gauge close to the floor since the gauges don’t bust when the pump falls over. We are okay with either smart head pumps or dual headed (Presta/Schrader) on opposite ends of the heads.

Thanks,

Andy

Andy Greif, Executive Director

Mailing: P.O. Box 783, Biddeford, ME 04005

Shop: 284 Hill Street, Biddeford

Shop Phone: 207-282-9700 Cell Phone: 207-229-8199

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I like BETO pumps (cheap--and they last at least as long as the Park pumps). Sometimes we buy the Filzer pump head ( http://www.mec.ca/product/5014-150/filzer-zephyr-floor-pump-clever-head) and put that on the BETO pump; the smart head works much better, especially with presta valves, and the long hose reaches up to wheels even while the bike is in the stand.

You can wrap tape around pump head to prevent the more enthusiastic patrons from trying to flip its guts around.

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*BikeWorks North *•* *9305 111 Ave • T5G 0A2 • 780-757-9100 *BikeWorks South *•* *10047 80 Ave (rear lane) • T6E 1T4 • 780-433-2453 *Cell •* 780-756-7560 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada @edmontonbicycle https://twitter.com/edmontonbicycle facebook.com/EdmontonBicycleCommutershttps://www.facebook.com/EdmontonBicycleCommuters

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Mark Rehder mark@re-cycles.ca wrote:

We use the Filzer brand from MEC. It has the fancy head that allows for both valves without adjustment, and ours have held up rather well. The chuck's grip start's to slip after about a year of use, so we just buy another one (parts are available, including O rings).

A ToPeak Pro model gave out completely after a year, and a Park model was always problematic, and its locking lever was opposite the Filzer (which pulls up to lock) and that always confused everyone.

The biggest challenge has been with customers used to the old pumps where you opened the head and flipped the internal bits around for Presta. We have to keep an eye in case anyone starts to do this, because these "smart" heads do not like to be taken apart.

(We do have an air compressor, but it's in the back room and used mainly for testing the piles of innertubes that come in.)

Mark Rehder - Coordinator re-Cycles Community Bike Shop http://re-cycles.ca

On 2013-09-17, at 2:03 PM, Andy Greif wrote:

Hi Folks,****

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Over the year we have tried many different floor pumps with the pump heads not lasting more than a year. *What brand and model floor pump has been the most reliable for you?* We prefer floor pumps with the gauge close to the floor since the gauges don’t bust when the pump falls over. We are okay with either smart head pumps or dual headed (Presta/Schrader) on opposite ends of the heads.****

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Thanks,**** Andy****

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*Andy Greif, Executive Director* Mailing: P.O. Box 783, Biddeford, ME 04005**** Shop: 284 Hill Street, Biddeford**** Shop Phone: 207-282-9700 Cell Phone: 207-229-8199**** Website: www.communitybike.net****

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Sounds like everyone likes something different...

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Jimmy Hallyburton < jimmy@boisebicycleproject.org> wrote:

The SKS rennkompressor is the best one that we've found and we've tired about everything. The parts are completely rebuildable, but you have to order replacement parts through SKS instead of most wholesale accounts. We just order 3 rebuild kits at a time, incase something goes out, and we order the rubber valve engagers in 5. In one year, you probably go through 3-5 rubber valve engagers, and might need the rebuild kits once every 2 years.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Christopher Chan < chris.chan@edmontonbikes.ca> wrote:

...

I like BETO pumps (cheap--and they last at least as long as the Park pumps). Sometimes we buy the Filzer pump head ( http://www.mec.ca/product/5014-150/filzer-zephyr-floor-pump-clever-head) and put that on the BETO pump; the smart head works much better, especially with presta valves, and the long hose reaches up to wheels even while the bike is in the stand.

You can wrap tape around pump head to prevent the more enthusiastic patrons from trying to flip its guts around.

Christopher Chan *Executive Director* Edmonton Bicycle Commuters' Society edmontonbikes.ca

*BikeWorks North *•* *9305 111 Ave • T5G 0A2 • 780-757-9100 *BikeWorks South *•* *10047 80 Ave (rear lane) • T6E 1T4 • 780-433-2453 *Cell •* 780-756-7560 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada @edmontonbicycle https://twitter.com/edmontonbicycle facebook.com/EdmontonBicycleCommutershttps://www.facebook.com/EdmontonBicycleCommuters

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Mark Rehder mark@re-cycles.ca wrote:

...

We use the Filzer brand from MEC. It has the fancy head that allows for both valves without adjustment, and ours have held up rather well. The chuck's grip start's to slip after about a year of use, so we just buy another one (parts are available, including O rings).

A ToPeak Pro model gave out completely after a year, and a Park model was always problematic, and its locking lever was opposite the Filzer (which pulls up to lock) and that always confused everyone.

The biggest challenge has been with customers used to the old pumps where you opened the head and flipped the internal bits around for Presta. We have to keep an eye in case anyone starts to do this, because these "smart" heads do not like to be taken apart.

(We do have an air compressor, but it's in the back room and used mainly for testing the piles of innertubes that come in.)

Mark Rehder - Coordinator re-Cycles Community Bike Shop http://re-cycles.ca

On 2013-09-17, at 2:03 PM, Andy Greif wrote:

Hi Folks,****

---

Over the year we have tried many different floor pumps with the pump heads not lasting more than a year. *What brand and model floor pump has been the most reliable for you?* We prefer floor pumps with the gauge close to the floor since the gauges don’t bust when the pump falls over. We are okay with either smart head pumps or dual headed (Presta/Schrader) on opposite ends of the heads.****

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Thanks,**** Andy****

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*Andy Greif, Executive Director* Mailing: P.O. Box 783, Biddeford, ME 04005**** Shop: 284 Hill Street, Biddeford**** Shop Phone: 207-282-9700 Cell Phone: 207-229-8199**** Website: www.communitybike.net****

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