Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.comwrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
*From:* "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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we've found, due mostly to where we're located, that any unwanted scrap metal gets quickly whisked away outside our shop by recyclers. Couple that with an accountable receipt system so that people can't accuse you of selling them/giving them a scrapheap bike.
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.comwrote:
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.comwrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
*From:* "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim
From: Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com To: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com wrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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I don't think the IRS technically distinguishes "nonprofit" and "not for profit." Are you talking about the distinction between a 501(c)(12) cooperative and a 501(c)(3) public charity or private foundation?
Can anyone else talk about good/bad experiences with each legal form of organization?
From: thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org [thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] on behalf of james bledsoe [jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11 AM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim ________________________________ From: Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com To: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman <vernonhuffman@yahoo.commailto:vernonhuffman@yahoo.com> wrote: If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.orgmailto:thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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There's a great book about choosing to NOT go the route of a 501c3 called The Revolution Will Not Be Funded. It talks mostly about how a lot of 501c3 orgs come to rely heavily on grants, and the dangers therein, but it also talks about some of the strengths that come from not going that route. Highly recommended for anyone looking to figure out their own organization's future path.
On Friday, July 26, 2013, Martin, Eric Vance wrote:
I don't think the IRS technically distinguishes "nonprofit" and "not for profit." Are you talking about the distinction between a 501(c)(12) cooperative and a 501(c)(3) public charity or private foundation?
Can anyone else talk about good/bad experiences with each legal form of organization?
*From:* thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org');> [ thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org');>] on behalf of james bledsoe [jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com');>] *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11 AM *To:* The Think Tank *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim
*From:* Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com *To:* Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank < thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.comwrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
There's a great book about choosing to NOT go the route of a 501c3 called The Revolution Will Not Be Funded. It talks mostly about how a lot of 501c3 orgs come to rely heavily on grants, and the dangers therein, but it also talks about some of the strengths that come from not going that route. Highly recommended for anyone looking to figure out their own organization's future path.
On Friday, July 26, 2013, Martin, Eric Vance wrote:
I don't think the IRS technically distinguishes "nonprofit" and "not for profit." Are you talking about the distinction between a 501(c)(12) cooperative and a 501(c)(3) public charity or private foundation?
Can anyone else talk about good/bad experiences with each legal form of organization?
*From:* thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org');> [ thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org');>] on behalf of james bledsoe [jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com');>] *Sent:* Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11 AM *To:* The Think Tank *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim
*From:* Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com *To:* Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank < thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.comwrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
There is an IRS distinction between non and not for profit in that the IRS doesn't even acknowledge not for profit as a thing you apply to them as, a not for profit is just like any other c-corp except that in our mission statement and Bylaws we include language forbidding individuals from making a profit off us. We pay standard business taxes and the like. There are benefits to doing this as mentioned by Jim. Some of the downsides include the significant one of finding starting capital. We had a founding member give us a loan of a significant amount of money to get started. Another is that we've ran into some hurdles in developing a relationship with other organizations, especially in seeking bike donations from municipalities. I think the Kitchen had a particularly hard time getting their 501. I don't think that is the case everywhere and I know of more than a few that have gone the 501 route and haven't had much trouble/ haven't had as many restrictions put on them. The Santa Cruz bike church would be a prime example.
Enzo Loconte Board Secretary Bikerowave
On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:39 AM, "Martin, Eric Vance" evmartin@indiana.edu wrote:
I don't think the IRS technically distinguishes "nonprofit" and "not for profit." Are you talking about the distinction between a 501(c)(12) cooperative and a 501(c)(3) public charity or private foundation?
Can anyone else talk about good/bad experiences with each legal form of organization?
From: thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org [thethinktank-bounces@lists.bikecollectives.org] on behalf of james bledsoe [jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:11 AM To: The Think Tank Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim From: Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com To: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com wrote: If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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Hi - I apologize for perhaps not reading the entire conversation, but I did read the all the quoted msgs in this mail I'm replying to...
My suggestion was to have a written description (charter) for your project, which your core group should buy-into for the next few years as you develop. Unless you have unlimited energy in your new organization, I've noticed that it is easy to get off track. Things can get really exciting as your project develops, which often leads to overextending, thus hastening burnout of the project/people.
Example - you start a 'kitchen', which quickly becomes a hub for people loving bicycles in the area. Now Bob wants to run a mobile operation as a sub-project, Belinda wants to have the kitchen provide bikes to the Safe Routes to School program, Ed and Fiona want to lead bike rides out of the shop and Rasputin want to be the organizer for the monthly bike swap. Oh, and you're supposed to be doing your original recycle-a-bike mission...
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:11 AM, james bledsoe jamesbleds0e@yahoo.com wrote:
i would suggest that you if it possible form the root of your organization as a Not for Profit. Not for profit is different than nonprofit. The Bikerowave in Los Angeles is set-up this way. They are still a collective still putting bicycles on the street and serving a public good. But they are not held under the nonprofit strictures and thereby allowed much grater flexibility in how they handle their money. They cannot give a tax credit for receiving donations but from my experience at the Bicycle Kitchen where i have volunteered for nearly ten years most of our donating patrons don't ask for an in-kind receipt. When the kitchen formed we considered forming as a coop where we could operate something like REI but already having 50g s in the bank and an excellent set of tools when we approached the non-profit umbrella we were working under they said we could become a coop simply by donation our cash to a charity of our choice and then buy back our tool for slightly higher than market price. So when the Bikerowave founders came to see how we had done it we suggested that they not become a nonprofit and they built there shop outside the nonprofit realm. Take a look here http://bikerowave.org/
jim ________________________________ From: Jennifer Kay jen.louise.kay@gmail.com To: Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com; The Think Tank thethinktank@lists.bikecollectives.org Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [TheThinkTank] Recycle-a-bike program: seeking other models, successes, failures and suggestions!
Thank you Stephen and Vernon, very helpful info (and checklist)
A thought on one of your comments Vernon: were thinking of establishing some criteria for the donation bikes so we are not overwhelmed with unusable donations. Have you considered this, do you think it is a realistic approach, and, if so, do you have any suggestions for clear criteria?
Jennifer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Vernon Huffman vernonhuffman@yahoo.com wrote:
If you only have capacity for 15 bikes, don't let people know you're looking for unused bikes. Every effort I've been part of has been overwhelmed by donations. As they come in, decide which are worthy of your efforts, which have components you can use, and which go straight into recycling. Your standards will slide, depending upon what's donated. Disposing of unusable bikes & components should be part of the plan.
Sorting stripped parts is always a challenge. Plan early, but stay flexible. Shelving units with reusable containers of various sizes can be very handy. Have a way to decide what you'll actually be able to use, so you don't end up storing junk that nobody wants. Selling parts has historically accounted for about half our income.
You might want to get started now on a long term goal of finding a location with more storage. I suspect space will be your biggest constraint.
From: "thethinktank-request@lists.bikecollectives.org" From: Jennifer Kay
Hi! I am with La Bikery in Moncton, New Brunswick. We are in the initial stages of starting up a small scale recycle - a - bike program (storage capacity = 12-15 bikes). I am sure there are plenty of success stories already out there, so I am hoping to draw on some of your expertise. If you have any functioning models to share (or examples of what NOT to do!), I would be grateful to hear from you.
Thank you, Jennifer Recycle-a-bike Coordinator, La Bikery
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